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September 17, 2012 7:31:17 AM

Hey guys! Just want you all to check out the list for my gaming rig! Hope to hear your feedbacks about this!

Build 1

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor

Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Motherboard

Memory: G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 Memory

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive

Video Card: Palit GeForce GTX 560 Ti SONIC 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 Video Card

Case: Corsair Carbide 300R

Power Supply: Seasonic (M12II) 620watts 80PLUS Bronze

Optical Drive: Asus 24x Sata

Cooler: Coolermaster Hyper Evo 212



Build 2:

CPU: Intel Core i5-3550 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor

Motherboard: ASUS P8H77-M PRO LGA 1155 Intel Motherboard

Memory: G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 Memory

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive

Video Card: Palit GeForce GTX 560 Ti SONIC 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 Video Card

Case: Corsair Carbide 300R

Power Supply: Seasonic (M12II) 620watts 80PLUS Bronze

Optical Drive: Asus 24x Sata





Location: Philippines
Usage: Gaming>Movies>Surfing Net
Budget: Php 40,000 to 45,000
Website: http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=PCHub
http://pcx.com.ph/


1. Are they all compatible with each other?
2. What are the possible problems I may encounter with this set-up?
3. If it's possible, can you make any revisions to my build?

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September 17, 2012 8:26:38 AM

Your build is great. Everything is balanced, and your choice of PSU is solid. Only thing would be to ask whether you're planning to SLI in the future, as that would require a PSU with more power.

For the cooler, the Coolermaster Hyper Evo 212 is a very popular and cost-effective solution. I'd go with that. The Ares' low profile RAM will also eliminate any issues that would occur with the heatsinks from the other G.Skill RAM modules.

Also, you might be more safe going with an SSD from Samsung or Crucial, since I've heard that OCZ are pretty dodgy on their SSD's. The ones from Samsung and Crucial on the other hand are very reliable. But this is what I've heard. You might want to do some of your own research if you're concerned about this.
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September 17, 2012 11:07:25 AM

Yes. Definitely change SSD. Agility 3 are c**p. You will need to get aftermarket cooler, if you want to overclock. The "stock" one, supplied with processor is not adequate if you want to OC. As bennaye suggested, the 212 Evo is a good budget choice, for all but the most extreme overclocking.
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September 17, 2012 11:52:28 AM

560Ti. Lol. Drop that SSD. All 60Gbs will get you is an OS and like 2 programs.
You can always add in the future.

Do you plan on OCing? If not, get this build:

i5 3470
Asrock H77M
Sapphire 7950 3Gb DDR5 (Oc ed)
Seasonic M12II 620W
Corsair 500R
G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x4Gb 1600

This all comes out to around 40k Php or so. Its actually my build but with some revisions lol. (check my sig)
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September 17, 2012 12:15:29 PM

I would agree that you should probably change the PSU. I did a little checking around, and it doesn't sound like that particular Antec is very good: http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7504 the one recommended by Nw333 is bound to be a great one (Seasonic is a top notch manufacturer), you can also consider Corsair, PC Power & Cooling as good brands (and any rated highly on this list http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx but it's always best to cross-reference with jonnygure/hardwaresecrets/etc to be sure you don't get a bad unit)

True the SSD won't buy you any gaming performance, where a better GPU is going to help you out alot for long-term gaming performance.

However a 60GB SSD is plenty if you use it effectively. I use a 60GB SSD (mines a vertex3 , but I got it because my Vertex2 failed, Samsung/Crucial aren't a bad idea), I move my Users/ProgramData and Temp folders off the SSD, follow most of these steps: http://thessdreview.com/category/ssd-guides/optimizatio...

Lastly, learn to use mklink, you can use it to relocate games. I keep steam itself on my SSD, my steamapps folder on my HDD, and relocate a few games I'm playing to my SSD. The same practices can be used to move anything except windows system files/folders.

For me, 60GB is more than enough with a little proactive management. But NW333 raises a good point that you could put the money for the SSD somewhere more effective for gaming (though you lose the general responsiveness an SSD gets you, which is awesome as well) .
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September 17, 2012 12:23:51 PM

I would actually not buy any OCZ products as they seem to be failing a lot recently with firmware updates and all that. Being the beings that SSDs are, they are sometimes not fully reliable. Worst case is it takes your files and breaks down completely. (I think. Lol.)
Samsung, Sandisk, and Crucial is what your supposed to be looking at for SSDs. :) 
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September 17, 2012 1:19:25 PM

djscribbles said:
I would agree that you should probably change the PSU. I did a little checking around, and it doesn't sound like that particular Antec is very good: http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7504 the one recommended by Nw333 is bound to be a great one (Seasonic is a top notch manufacturer), you can also consider Corsair, PC Power & Cooling as good brands (and any rated highly on this list http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx but it's always best to cross-reference with jonnygure/hardwaresecrets/etc to be sure you don't get a bad unit)

True the SSD won't buy you any gaming performance, where a better GPU is going to help you out alot for long-term gaming performance.

However a 60GB SSD is plenty if you use it effectively. I use a 60GB SSD (mines a vertex3 , but I got it because my Vertex2 failed, Samsung/Crucial aren't a bad idea), I move my Users/ProgramData and Temp folders off the SSD, follow most of these steps: http://thessdreview.com/category/ssd-guides/optimizatio...

Lastly, learn to use mklink, you can use it to relocate games. I keep steam itself on my SSD, my steamapps folder on my HDD, and relocate a few games I'm playing to my SSD. The same practices can be used to move anything except windows system files/folders.

For me, 60GB is more than enough with a little proactive management. But NW333 raises a good point that you could put the money for the SSD somewhere more effective for gaming (though you lose the general responsiveness an SSD gets you, which is awesome as well) .

Is there an issue with Antec Basiq, or is it just that one. Not used them, myself, but had thought they were one of the better budget PSU's (obviously not as good as Seasonic), plus you can get them modular, not common at that price and size?
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September 17, 2012 1:27:22 PM

malbluff said:
Is there an issue with Antec Basiq, or is it just that one. Not used them, myself, but had thought they were one of the better budget PSU's (obviously not as good as Seasonic), plus you can get them modular, not common at that price and size?


Ive had no experience with Antec. Although from what Ive heard, their PSUs that compare to the M12IIs are the High Current Gamer series. Feel free to disagree. :) 
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September 18, 2012 12:56:01 AM

bennaye said:
Your build is great. Everything is balanced, and your choice of PSU is solid. Only thing would be to ask whether you're planning to SLI in the future, as that would require a PSU with more power.

For the cooler, the Coolermaster Hyper Evo 212 is a very popular and cost-effective solution. I'd go with that. The Ares' low profile RAM will also eliminate any issues that would occur with the heatsinks from the other G.Skill RAM modules.

Also, you might be more safe going with an SSD from Samsung or Crucial, since I've heard that OCZ are pretty dodgy on their SSD's. The ones from Samsung and Crucial on the other hand are very reliable. But this is what I've heard. You might want to do some of your own research if you're concerned about this.


Thanks for the suggestion about the cooler. I'll edit the build and include that in it. Thanks a lot! :D 
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September 18, 2012 12:57:59 AM

malbluff said:
Yes. Definitely change SSD. Agility 3 are c**p. You will need to get aftermarket cooler, if you want to overclock. The "stock" one, supplied with processor is not adequate if you want to OC. As bennaye suggested, the 212 Evo is a good budget choice, for all but the most extreme overclocking.


Thanks for your feedback malbuff. :D  Good thing that aftermarket cooler is available here. :D 
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September 18, 2012 1:02:44 AM

Nw333 said:
560Ti. Lol. Drop that SSD. All 60Gbs will get you is an OS and like 2 programs.
You can always add in the future.

Do you plan on OCing? If not, get this build:

i5 3470
Asrock H77M
Sapphire 7950 3Gb DDR5 (Oc ed)
Seasonic M12II 620W
Corsair 500R
G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x4Gb 1600

This all comes out to around 40k Php or so. Its actually my build but with some revisions lol. (check my sig)


Actually, I really have no experience OCing. But I'm not sure if I'll try it later on or not. I was planning to get the SSD for just my OS. But you do have a point that I could just add it up in the future. If I do drop the SSD, should I use it to get a 660 Ti instead of a 560 Ti?
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September 18, 2012 1:17:52 AM

Guys! I've edited my build. Please check it's still ok! :D  Thanks a lot! :D  Are there any other PSUs that's good on performance yet still affordable? :D 
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September 18, 2012 4:15:19 AM

Looks good!
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September 18, 2012 7:48:21 AM

jesterlanz said:
Actually, I really have no experience OCing. But I'm not sure if I'll try it later on or not. I was planning to get the SSD for just my OS. But you do have a point that I could just add it up in the future. If I do drop the SSD, should I use it to get a 660 Ti instead of a 560 Ti?

If you've got the funds to do it, yes, get the 660Ti, good bit better than 560Ti (although that's not too shabby either).
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September 18, 2012 10:29:00 AM

That 7950 in the build I gave is only around 300Php more than the 660Ti and it will give you better performance.
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September 18, 2012 11:34:07 AM

Certainly agree, over a broad range of games, the AVERAGE performance of 7950 is better than 660Ti, but 660Ti is actually BETTER in some games, and 7950 is more expensive (even if only a bit). Which is better value, is debatable, especially if OP is already "stretching"" to get 660Ti. Almost kinda depends which games he likes.
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September 19, 2012 8:18:42 AM

If you don't mind me asking, what's the importance of OCing? I was thinking about changing my CPU to a non K one as well as changing my MoBo as well if OCing was not really something that I needed. :) )
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September 19, 2012 9:37:22 AM

OCing isnt much of a necessity. It is a nice thing to have in the future incase you feel your computer is getting slow, but it wont provide you much FPS in games. (5 to maybe 10 fps.) Im pretty sure it voids your CPU warranty and there is a risk to it but OCing these days is easy and almost (ALMOST) risk free as long as you have an aftermarket heatsink.
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September 19, 2012 9:51:55 AM

I've added a second build guys. If I'm not going to OC, should build 2 be just ok for me? :D 
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September 19, 2012 9:55:12 AM

Get the build I suggested. Performs waaaaaaaaaay better. Just add in an HDD. 7950 > 560Ti. By a laaaarge margin. Z77 is also not needed when you arent OCing. H77 will satisfy your needs.
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September 19, 2012 10:25:09 AM

Nw333 said:
Get the build I suggested. Performs waaaaaaaaaay better. Just add in an HDD. 7950 > 560Ti. By a laaaarge margin. Z77 is also not needed when you arent OCing. H77 will satisfy your needs.

Is there any alternative for the MoBo? I kinda like the ATX form :D 
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September 19, 2012 10:39:26 AM

Im pretty sure there are some H77 ATX mobos out there, you just have to find them.

Although, there is nothing wrong with micro-ATX. :) 
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September 19, 2012 10:55:28 AM

Lots of manufacturers do H77 in ATX format, eg Asus P8H77-v. It's just a question of what's available, where you are. Of course, there's nothing to STOP you using Z77, just because you aren't overclocking. It's just that H77 gives you all you need, cheaper.
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September 20, 2012 2:44:20 AM

I talked to one of my friends and he suggested the second build. I've edited it once more. I got a micro ATX in that build. Is it ok guys?
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September 20, 2012 10:34:02 AM

Looking pretty good, now, if you definitely don't want overclocking abilities.
620w for PSU is more than you NEED, but there's nothing wrong with having a bit in hand, with a good PSU, which that one IS.
Still think you'd be better off with a different graphics card. Nothing WRONG with the 560Ti, it was a very good card, in it's day, but that's the point; it's been superceded by better, more efficient cards. It's no longer the best value for money. The 660Ti, or even the HD7950, are probably best, short of very expensive cards, if you have the funds, but even the plain 660, or HD7870, would be better, without a big spend, compared to 560Ti.
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September 20, 2012 10:57:50 AM

The difference in a 560Ti and a 7870/7950/660Ti is huge. You dont want to cheap out on the GPU since its the main power of your system since it is for gaming. 560Ti's are also last gen cards.
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September 21, 2012 12:25:31 AM

Ok.. :D  Now, im just thinking what would i get? What's the most affordable one that I can get? :D 
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September 21, 2012 12:35:10 AM

Basically the order, in terms of performance across a range of games is, 7870>660Ti>7950. To slightly complicate it, the 660Ti performs particularly well (better than 7950), in certain popular games eg BF3, Portal, Skyrim, and new Borderlands 2 (you even get Borderlands 2, free, with it). Personally, I think the 660Ti gives best value, for money, but others would perhaps disagree.
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September 21, 2012 10:54:16 PM

The 660Ti and 7950 are still expensive here ><
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September 21, 2012 11:42:53 PM

The new GTX660 seems to be fairly close to the HD7870, with the same sort of bias towards things like BF3, Borderlands etc. Obviously performance is not quite as good as 660Ti.
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September 22, 2012 2:12:00 AM

Computer parts in the PH were never cheap. I know because I live there.

I also bought my build over at PCHub and they have the cheapest parts around, catch is; they need to be payed in cash and you need to be a TipidPC member (sign up is easy.) else theres no discount. If the branch your near to has no internet, you have bad luck my friend.
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September 22, 2012 3:50:51 AM

Yea, I know. I'm a tipidPC member so I can avail of the discount! :D  I wish I was filthy rich so budget wouldnt be a problem ><
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September 22, 2012 11:07:40 PM

Guys, a friend told me about a motherboard, ASRock P67 Fatal1ty. He said that I should get this and just buy a new videocard next time as the on board video card may suffice.. >< He said that the motherboard I posted here are not that good.. ><
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September 23, 2012 5:10:12 AM

P67? Thats so old. :D  H77s are only a step down from Z77s and two steps down from X79. P67 is like 5. If you dont like it, try the Asus P8H77 series of mobos.
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September 23, 2012 7:06:27 AM

Yea, I'm planning on getting Asus P8H77, like in the 2nd build.. IS it a good mobo?
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September 23, 2012 9:21:21 AM

It is definitely a good mobo.
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September 23, 2012 11:36:50 AM

You can't really go wrong, with Asus. You are paying a bit for the name "Asus", but no denying they're top quality, and user friendly.
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September 24, 2012 12:33:56 AM

Thanks guys! :D  I think i'm buying the Asus P8H77! :D 
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September 24, 2012 11:03:49 PM

Do I still need to buy an aftermarket cooler if I'm not going to OC?
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September 25, 2012 7:21:22 AM

No, stock cooler, supplied with processor, if fine, if you don't overclock. The only marginal benefit, with aftermarket cooler, then, is that it will be quieter. Stock fan isn't loud, unless you are working it really hard, so it's not worth it, unless you're desperate for "silence"
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September 26, 2012 11:04:43 PM

So guys, is the build 2 ok now? Everything is compatible with each other? :D 
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September 27, 2012 10:15:14 AM

If you follow our suggestions on the GPU and mobo, you'll be fine and in budget. (I guess.) Could you repost it now? Is it still the 2nd build but with an Asus P8H77 mobo and 660Ti?
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September 28, 2012 12:43:03 AM

Just asking, is using an intel i5-3450 CPU still compatible with the builds? and yes, im going for the asus and 660ti combination.. :D 
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September 28, 2012 8:24:33 AM

Yeah, no problems with a 3450. :D  Intel will discontinue them soon, so you might want to purchase one soon. (Theyre discontinuing them due to the prices, the processors are too close together for the 100MHz difference in speed and everyone was like flocking to the 3450 because there was almost no difference between that and the 3570.)
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September 30, 2012 6:47:34 AM

Thanks! I'll try looking for it and see if its still available! :D  I'm so excited to make this! But since its still almost a month before i can do it, ill try and see if i can still tweak this a bit before the actual purchase!
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