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July 30, 2012 12:42:31 PM

Hi - followup question. AT what starting point (either NVidia, AMD,ATI) of discrete graphics cards would provide a noticeable increase in performance vs onboard HD4000 IGP?

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Tom

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July 30, 2012 1:04:53 PM

EXCEPT ENCODING WHERE QUICKSYNC WILL BLOW AWAY ANYTHING ELSE!
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July 30, 2012 1:16:57 PM

panwala95 said:
EXCEPT ENCODING WHERE QUICKSYNC WILL BLOW AWAY ANYTHING ELSE!


Extremely limited use really, plus I've heard not so flattering reviews of quicksyncs quality but maybe that was with the 3000 series.

Even snatching up an AMD 6770-6790 both are around $100 will blow that IGP out of the water and it will be a quality buy at the same time. What resolution are you going to be playing in?

Also, do you know about the needed pci express 16x 2.0 slot on your motherboard and PSU requirements (do you have the necessary 6 or 8 pins for the graphics card?)
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July 30, 2012 1:21:11 PM

Hi tom
allthough the intel HD4000 igp solutions are significantly better than previous onboard solutions they are limited by the amount of exection units which in this case is 16... however their memory bandwidth (26gb/sec) is pretty decent for a on die solution
in regards to a starting point and to see a marked improvement in performance i would say the HD5570 ( http://www.amd.com/uk/products/desktop/graphics/ati-rad... ) with ati based cards and with nvidia the GT630 ( http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-... ),however both come in gddr3 ans gddr5 models and performance differs significantly with both models
the HD5570 is a cut down HD5670 and still has 400 stream processors and a slightly slower 650mhz core clock ( compared to 700mhz with the HD5670 ) ... and this is also relevant with the HD6570 and HD6670 .....
the GT630 has 96 cuda cores and also comes in both gddr3 and gddr5 models .... so as with the ati cards its best to opt for the gddr5 versions of these cards due to the better performance ( better memory clocks resulting in better memory bandwidth )
that said tom aria are doing the HD6770 for just £59 and this is ( in my opinion ) one of the best mainstream graphic cards around ( link : http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/ARIA... ) .... this is a massive step up from a intergrated graphics processor and will allow you to run games extremely well... and taking advantage of amd,s "stream" technology ( now called "AMD App Acceleration" ) you can harness the power of the gpu for media applications ( video editing )
this is similar to nvidia,s "cuda" technology which does pretty much the same... infact some of the most powerful supercomputers use gpu based processing due to its outstanding performance
in summary discrete graphics have come a very long way in a small time period and even £50 cards are extremely powerful compared to the same priced cards 5 years ago..... however you should consider how long you want to use the card... it may be worth paying a bit extra and investing in a GTX550ti (nvidia ) or a HD7770(amd ) which cost a bit more but will future proof the graphics for a good 2 to 3 years
hope this helps tom
good luck mate !
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July 30, 2012 1:29:03 PM

gilgamex said:
Extremely limited use really, plus I've heard not so flattering reviews of quicksyncs quality but maybe that was with the 3000 series.

Even snatching up an AMD 6770-6790 both are around $100 will blow that IGP out of the water and it will be a quality buy at the same time. What resolution are you going to be playing in?

Also, do you know about the needed pci express 16x 2.0 slot on your motherboard and PSU requirements (do you have the necessary 6 or 8 pins for the graphics card?)


Thank you very much gr8 info, yes my mobo will accomodate any of the cards you mention.

Tom
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July 30, 2012 1:31:36 PM

brianthesnail said:
Hi tom
allthough the intel HD4000 igp solutions are significantly better than previous onboard solutions they are limited by the amount of exection units which in this case is 16... however their memory bandwidth (26gb/sec) is pretty decent for a on die solution
in regards to a starting point and to see a marked improvement in performance i would say the HD5570 ( http://www.amd.com/uk/products/desktop/graphics/ati-rad... ) with ati based cards and with nvidia the GT630 ( http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-... ),however both come in gddr3 ans gddr5 models and performance differs significantly with both models
the HD5570 is a cut down HD5670 and still has 400 stream processors and a slightly slower 650mhz core clock ( compared to 700mhz with the HD5670 ) ... and this is also relevant with the HD6570 and HD6670 .....
the GT630 has 96 cuda cores and also comes in both gddr3 and gddr5 models .... so as with the ati cards its best to opt for the gddr5 versions of these cards due to the better performance ( better memory clocks resulting in better memory bandwidth )
that said tom aria are doing the HD6770 for just £59 and this is ( in my opinion ) one of the best mainstream graphic cards around ( link : http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/ARIA... ) .... this is a massive step up from a intergrated graphics processor and will allow you to run games extremely well... and taking advantage of amd,s "stream" technology ( now called "AMD App Acceleration" ) you can harness the power of the gpu for media applications ( video editing )
this is similar to nvidia,s "cuda" technology which does pretty much the same... infact some of the most powerful supercomputers use gpu based processing due to its outstanding performance
in summary discrete graphics have come a very long way in a small time period and even £50 cards are extremely powerful compared to the same priced cards 5 years ago..... however you should consider how long you want to use the card... it may be worth paying a bit extra and investing in a GTX550ti (nvidia ) or a HD7770(amd ) which cost a bit more but will future proof the graphics for a good 2 to 3 years
hope this helps tom
good luck mate !



Thanx - gr8 info - 1 quick question if you have time - your thoughts on GT440, BTW I'm not a gamer.
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July 30, 2012 8:54:08 PM

Definetly skip the 440, it's performance is quite lacking for the price. http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GT_440/... here is a solid review of it, if you look closely you'll notice the performance is around a 5670, and you would still be too close to the performance of your 4000 chip to be worth buying.

I understand money is always a concern to most builders but you will only really see a worthwhile purchase at the very minimum from a 6770. I would skip over the 550ti and choose the 6790 as well if you want to make a slight bump, then the 460gtx after that.
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July 30, 2012 9:31:49 PM

gilgamex said:
Definetly skip the 440, it's performance is quite lacking for the price. http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GT_440/... here is a solid review of it, if you look closely you'll notice the performance is around a 5670, and you would still be too close to the performance of your 4000 chip to be worth buying.

I understand money is always a concern to most builders but you will only really see a worthwhile purchase at the very minimum from a 6770. I would skip over the 550ti and choose the 6790 as well if you want to make a slight bump, then the 460gtx after that.



Gr8 info and advice! - really appreciate it.

Thanx again!

Tom
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July 30, 2012 9:38:23 PM

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