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September 18, 2012 6:20:35 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: this week

Budget Range: 1200-1500

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, watching movies, surfing the internet, etc

Are you buying a monitor: Yes

Parts to Upgrade: Its all new, so...

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website for Parts: newegg.com

Location: Westchester, New York

Parts Preferences: NVIDIA GPU, Intel CPU,

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920 x 1080p

Additional Comments: Plan on using games such as Skyrim, Guild wars, dishonored/bioshock (in the future). Would like my computer specs to last me 3-4 years.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: My PC is a dinosaur and I can't play games on my mac.

LG DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH24NS90 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm Fan, 1x Rear 120mm Fan, option Fans-2x Side 120mm Fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Acer S220HQLAbd Black 21.5" 5ms LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 ACM 100,000,000:1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


MSI N660 Ti PE 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec NEO ECO 520C 520W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Microsoft Desktop 400 5MH-00001 Black USB Wired Standard Keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 64-bit - OEM

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128B/WW 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EDIT:
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 996995
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820226191

September 18, 2012 11:40:36 PM

here you go
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hSgy

the keyboard is usually on sale for 59.99 after MIR. just wait a bit for that. the mech keyboard is totally worth the price
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September 18, 2012 11:54:04 PM

A) Is the special keyboard really so important?

B) Is the difference between gtx 660 ti and gtx 670 worth the $100?

C) Is the SSD going to make all that much of a difference?


EDIT: Also, embarassed to say I forgot to put down a memory component. This wish list has been sitting around for a while and the one I selected must have gone out of stock while I was waiting.

I added one to the top post.
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September 18, 2012 11:58:58 PM

1: the keyboard isnt too important but since i switched to a mech keyboard a few months ago, i typed 10% faster. when i went back to a regular, they felt like junk
2:not really. if you dont want to spend the extra cash, id suggest getting the 7870 instead as it performs like a 660ti but is a hundred dollars less. ill link you it if you are interested
3: the ram i chose is the same but 2 bucks cheaper
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September 19, 2012 12:03:37 AM

A lot of the benchmarks I read up on say that the 660 ti is superior to the AMD 7870, and is nearly as good as the 7950. I may be wrong of course.

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September 19, 2012 12:10:07 AM

Send me a link?

Also is there any more of the price you can shave off my build?
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September 19, 2012 12:36:53 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $69.99
SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $84.99 FREE SHIPPING
ASRock Z75 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $259.98 save: $11.00 FREE SHIPPING
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS2KIT4G3D1609DS1S00

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=ox_sc_a... $32.42 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Intern... $74.98 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-2-5-Inch-Solid-SDSSDP-128... $89.95 + $0.00 shipping
SanDisk 128 GB 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive (SDSSDP-128G- G25)

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SH-222BB-BEBE-Internal-So... $16.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE 22X SATA DVDRW Internal Drive (Black), Bulk without Software

http://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-WINDFORCE-PCI-Express-Gr... $399.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping | Price after rebate: $379.99
GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 670 WINDFORCE 2X OC Edition 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express 3.0 2x DVI/HDMI/DP SLI Ready Graphics Card GV-N670WF2-2GD

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil... $91.05 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack

Total: $1,119.46 *not including shipping & rebates
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September 19, 2012 1:02:02 AM

well you trade overvolting (more power to video card), cooler temps (by up to 10c), and overall quieter operation

either way, get a 7870 or the msi 660ti
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September 19, 2012 1:08:53 AM

$1,500 budget, no SLI/Crossfire and it's a gaming build. That says GTX 670.
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September 19, 2012 1:14:25 AM

Why_Me said:
$1,500 budget, no SLI/Crossfire and it's a gaming build. That says GTX 670.


Nah, it screams GTX 670; or at least a highly overclocked HD 7950. :D 
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September 19, 2012 1:35:07 AM

Is the GTX 670 worth the extra $100?

Also are there any GTX 660 ti models that have the same price as MSI but also have replacement warranty?
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September 19, 2012 1:43:08 AM

Why_Me said:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GeForce_GTX... <----- there's some benches to check out. That card is a monster and it doesn't suffer at high detail on high settings like the 660 ti.


I plan on using ultra settings for most games, but I'm not going any further than 1920 x 1080p resolution. Would I need anything more than a gtx 660 ti?
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September 19, 2012 1:43:16 AM

That particular card is also a great overclocker...especially with it's custom cooler.

Excellent card for the money. If you buy it now, you can get a 10% discount and a free copy of Borderlands 2 on Newegg.
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September 19, 2012 2:01:18 AM

Does the SSD storage make that big of a difference. If I subtract that, it would open up room in my budget to get a gtx 670.
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September 19, 2012 2:06:40 AM

It just allows for faster load times in games and when booting the computer. Not particularly as important as the GPU though. I'd go with the best GPU you can get. You can always grab a SSD later.
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September 19, 2012 2:07:05 AM

theproductofboredom said:
Does the SSD storage make that big of a difference. If I subtract that, it would open up room in my budget to get a gtx 670.

It should fit into your budget. Your original build had the more expensive asrock extreme4 which is a board meant for a dual card set up and you didn't use any newegg combo's nor amazon. The only thing you need to change...size up on is your case. It sucks. You can nail a nice Antec three hundred two with front 3.0 USB ports, better cooling, more room, etc... for $60 and free shipping @ amazon.

Take a look at that build I posted up above. Add your monitor, keyboard, etc... to that build and see what it totals up to. It should be well under your $1,500 budget.
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September 19, 2012 2:09:12 AM

or just go with my build and you would be ok. the 7970 is faster than the 670 and msot of the time the but its really your choice what features you want. if you are to play things that have physx, get nvidia
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September 19, 2012 2:39:11 AM

theproductofboredom said:
Does Amazon have warranty?

With some components on there you have to get the warranty through the manufacture which is easy enough to do. Proof of purchase and your good to go. That and there's no middle man.
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September 19, 2012 2:51:41 AM

Yeah but the myservice warranty on newegg covers accidental damage as well....

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September 19, 2012 2:52:16 AM

im better off with ncix
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September 19, 2012 2:59:18 AM

Anyway, a revised build.

LG DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH24NS90 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827136247

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel , SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119068

Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148840

Acer S220HQLAbd Black 21.5" 5ms LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 ACM 100,000,000:1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824009316

ZOTAC ZT-60301-10P GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817151093 $69.99
SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Microsoft Desktop 400 5MH-00001 Black USB Wired Standard Keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6823109232

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813157304 $84.99 FREE SHIPPING
ASRock Z75 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6832116986 64-bit - OEM

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103099

SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128B/WW 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820147163

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] bo.1057717 $259.98 save: $11.00 FREE SHIPPING
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS2KIT4G3D1609DS1S00

With all the warranties and shipping, it comes out to $1557.54

This good? Any better gtx 670 ideas would be welcome as well.



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September 19, 2012 3:03:30 AM

1: id get a different case like the antec 302
2: id get a msi power edition 670. has overvolting
3: get a xfx 550w at us.ncix.com for 44.99. same psu but cheaper
4: id stick with the extreme4 and the ud3h
5: i dont trust acer after my laptop with them. get the vs228h-p from asus
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September 19, 2012 3:19:53 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $427.98 save: $13.00 - $20.00 Mail In Rebates
GIGABYTE GV-N670WF2-2GD GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Edition 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model PVI38G160C9K

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $235.98 save: $11.00
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
LG DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH24NS90 - OEM
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September 19, 2012 3:27:09 AM

theproductofboredom said:
A) Is the special keyboard really so important?

B) Is the difference between gtx 660 ti and gtx 670 worth the $100?

C) Is the SSD going to make all that much of a difference?


EDIT: Also, embarassed to say I forgot to put down a memory component. This wish list has been sitting around for a while and the one I selected must have gone out of stock while I was waiting.

I added one to the top post.


A) NOOOOOO!

B) Don't get a 660Ti. Get a 660 or a 670 if Nvidia is a must. Otherwise the 7870 is found for $220 or less.

C) I still don't see why SSD is a necessity to some. Is it WAY faster? Yes. Do you need a stationary PC to use 5% less power and boot up 40 seconds faster for $200+ extra? NO IMO.
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September 19, 2012 3:27:44 AM

1. What criteria makes for a better case? I still don't get it. Is this a good case?

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2. What's overvolting? Also MSI doesn't come with replacement warranty for accidental damage.

3. Whats so much better about the extreme4?

4. Why the distrust of Acer? Is the Asus Monitor a substantial quality increase?
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September 19, 2012 3:57:23 AM

CaptainTom said:
A) NOOOOOO!

B) Don't get a 660Ti. Get a 660 or a 670 if Nvidia is a must. Otherwise the 7870 is found for $220 or less.

C) I still don't see why SSD is a necessity to some. Is it WAY faster? Yes. Do you need a stationary PC to use 5% less power and boot up 40 seconds faster for $200+ extra? NO IMO.


It doesn't just boot faster; it loads games faster as well...especially games like BF3 and Skyrim. I don't find it necessary per se, it's just a great idea to put one in a system such as this. It makes everything much more responsive. Also, a decent SSD doesn't cost $200+. You can get a 128gb model for under $100.

OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-128G 2.5" 128GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or...

SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128B/WW 2.5" 128GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 19, 2012 6:11:12 AM

DeusAres said:
It doesn't just boot faster; it loads games faster as well...especially games like BF3 and Skyrim. I don't find it necessary per se, it's just a great idea to put one in a system such as this. It makes everything much more responsive. Also, a decent SSD doesn't cost $200+. You can get a 128gb model for under $100.

OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-128G 2.5" 128GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or...

SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128B/WW 2.5" 128GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Yes ik an SSD upgrades speeds in games. I almost got one. But I don't want to have to worry about where to install my stuff. Thus to have a big enough SSD, I would need to spend that much.
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September 19, 2012 6:25:24 AM

CaptainTom said:
Yes ik an SSD upgrades speeds in games. I almost got one. But I don't want to have to worry about where to install my stuff. Thus to have a big enough SSD, I would need to spend that much.

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-2-5-Inch-Solid-SD... $185.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
SanDisk Extreme SSD 240 GB SATA 6.0 Gb-s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive SDSSDX-240G-G25
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September 19, 2012 7:29:51 AM

theproductofboredom said:
Will this SDD work with my computer? Reviews say that as it's designed for a laptop, its a bit awkward to insert.

SanDisk SDSSDP-128G-G25 2.5" 128GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also any recommendations on wireless adaptors? Something within 15-25 bucks.

All SSD's are 2.5"...laptop size. It comes with a 3.5" bracket although most cases these days have drive bays that fit 3.5" and 2.5" for SSD's.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $27.99 FREE SHIPPING
TP-LINK TL-WN951N Wireless N Adapter IEEE 802.11n, IEEE 802.11g, IEEE 802.11b, CSMA/CA with ACK 32-bit PCI Up to 300Mbps Wireless Data Rates 64/128/152 bit WEP, WPA/WPA2, WPA-PSK/WPA2-PSK (TKIP/AES), WPS.
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September 19, 2012 7:42:36 AM

theproductofboredom said:
Is this 50 dollar hard drive fine for storing music and inactive games?

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F4 HD322GJ/U 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Samsung makes some super solid hard drives. Can't go wrong with that drive.
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September 19, 2012 7:48:29 AM

So would it be smarter to pick the $50 hard drive and the Samsung 128GB SDD drive, or pick a good 70-90 dollar hard drive and get the 64GB SDD?
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September 19, 2012 8:04:59 AM

theproductofboredom said:
So would it be smarter to pick the $50 hard drive and the Samsung 128GB SDD drive, or pick a good 70-90 dollar hard drive and get the 64GB SDD?

The way I look at it, if you get the SSD firt and hold off on a storage drive you don't have to reload windows. That saves a lot of hassle and you end up with a decent size SSD. A month or two down the road you pick up a 1TB storage drive on sale for $65.
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September 19, 2012 8:07:47 AM

The only problem with that solution is that I have 80 GB of music waiting on an external hard drive. But I suppose with something like that I could just keep it on the external hard drive, as it isn't taxing enough to be bottlenecked by the USB conversion.

And if I factor out the HDD, my build comes in nicely under 1500 dollars. Sweet.
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September 19, 2012 11:03:43 AM

theproductofboredom said:
1. What criteria makes for a better case? I still don't get it. Is this a good case?

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2. What's overvolting? Also MSI doesn't come with replacement warranty for accidental damage.

3. Whats so much better about the extreme4?

4. Why the distrust of Acer? Is the Asus Monitor a substantial quality increase?


1: i suggested the 302 not the 300 illusion. for me, i look for usability, features like usb3, build quality, and cabling room. the 302 is a 300 but with better cabling and usb3

2: overvolting is increasing the voltage supplied to the video card. it helps the video card given all other cards are limited at 1.175v which is not always enough for higher level oc. msi will replace the card if its faulty or if something broke. they wont warrant anything such as frying your Chip. no one does really

3: because its z77 so you get a couple more features and that the board has a better overall power delivery design

4: im using a asus monitor at the moment. i distrust acer given my laptop from them keeps getting over 100c even though i have a level of cooling placed on it and that cleaning it didnt help
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September 19, 2012 3:09:28 PM

Why_Me said:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-2-5-Inch-Solid-SD... $185.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
SanDisk Extreme SSD 240 GB SATA 6.0 Gb-s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive SDSSDX-240G-G25


I would want at least half a TB. I understand how good they are, I just can't quite stomach paying that much for them now when a 1TB is found for <$60 at times. My next desktop will use SSD, that just won't be for at least 5 years. By then they will half taken over and be far cheaper.
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September 19, 2012 5:25:22 PM

CaptainTom said:
I would want at least half a TB. I understand how good they are, I just can't quite stomach paying that much for them now when a 1TB is found for <$60 at times. My next desktop will use SSD, that just won't be for at least 5 years. By then they will half taken over and be far cheaper.

In the past 5 - 6 months Iv'e seen that particular SSD go form $250 to as cheap as $169.99 on sale so hopefully it will drop to somewhere near $125 by Christmas.
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