Upgrade for my HD 7450

[andersonchef87]

Looking for something that has a little more juice to it, willing to upgrade my power suppy as well. psu is only 300 watts. Looking to spend around 350 400 bucks, want to play new games on levels other than low settings. my pc is a HP Pavilion h8-1214. i have a AMD fx-6100 six core processor, 10 gb ddr3.

 

[andersonchef87]

any suggestions?

 

[dudewitbow]

the farthest i can possible recommend without changing the psu is a 7750. you cant get much further then that except using a 7770 at a gamble.

 

[EvilMuffin253]

The processor and RAM are fine but you may want to consider upgrading your PSU. $350-$400 is quite a large amount for a graphics card so you should be able to get a pretty high end one. If I was you I would get a Nvidia GTX 570, I dont paticularly see the need for getting a really expensive GPU when this will be just fine. The GTX 570 is a powerful card and will get very good FPS in all of the modern day games, if you wanted to spend a bit more to get maybe a little better performance go for a Radeon HD 6970, its also is a very good graphics card but is quite a bit more than the GTX 570. Also for the PSU I would get a minimum of 600w, Corsair is a good brand for Power supplies. I would go for a Corsair 750w in case I wanted to do future upgrades!

Nvidia GTX 570 1GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130613

Radeon 6970 2GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150517

Corsair TX750w PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021

Also make sure your motherboard supports the graphics cards and your case can fit them. Hope this helps!

 

[dudewitbow]

@above, why offer a 6970 when you can get a 7950 for about the same price

 

[EvilMuffin253]

@above, why offer a 6970 when you can get a 7950 for about the same price

There is really no need for a graphics card that high end. Sure you could go for it but I am budgeting the for PSU + Graphics Card to stay in his budget. Also that card is very big and may not fit his case.

 

[dudewitbow]

There is really no need for a graphics card that high end. Sure you could go for it but I am budgeting the for PSU + Graphics Card to stay in his budget. Also that card is very big and may not fit his case.

the 7950 and 6970 is essentially the same price(lower actually if the msi one goes back on stock on newegg but its 325$ on ncix) why not go that high when you offered the other as a choice. If budgeting was a question as well, a 750w psu would extremely be unnecessary.

 

[andersonchef87]

here is my exact computer
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c03154290&cc=ad&dlc=en&lc=en&jumpid=reg_r1002_usen#N475

 

[EvilMuffin253]

the 7950 and 6970 is essentially the same price(lower actually if the msi one goes back on stock on newegg but its 325$ on ncix) why not go that high when you offered the other as a choice. If budgeting was a question as well, a 750w psu would extremely be unnecessary.

The reason I recommended the 750w PSU is in case he wants to do any future upgrades, it would seem a bit stupid to buy a new PSU everytime you want to upgrade. Also the 6970 I puut a link to is one of the highest end and most expensive 6970's you can get!

 

[dudewitbow]

is it possible to ask for a favor to measure how long of a card you can fit in your case where your 7450 is starting from the backplate to the hard drive cage directly across from it to see how long of a card can the case hold without being changed.

The reason I recommended the 750w PSU is in case he wants to do any future upgrades, it would seem a bit stupid to buy a new PSU everytime you want to upgrade. Also the 6970 I puut a link to is one of the highest end and most expensive 6970's you can get!

I would guarantee that the build would use no more than 650w max with the heaviest overclock. a 750w psu is aimed for dual card setups, and im making a pretty LARGE assumption that OEM mobos are most likely not sli/crossfire certified, and if they are, its most likely running 16x/4x lane speeds. even the dual gpu 6990 doesnt consume that match power.

@ belows original comment has the choice that solves just about all the problems if case size wants to be eliminated.

 

[EvilMuffin253]

Did you all seem to miss my recommendation? this solves the whole issue...

The 7870 is a good card but with the budget he has i'd think he would want a bit better performance than a 7870, also I don't think he said he needed a new case, he may be able to fit the graphics card in the case but to be sure I would find the dimensions of the card and compare them to space available in the case. If it wont fit, then I would look into a new case. Buying a new case would be a last resort, it is very annoying to move all the components and cables between cases...

 

[EvilMuffin253]

is it possible to ask for a favor to measure how long of a card you can fit in your case where your 7450 is starting from the backplate to the hard drive cage directly across from it to see how long of a card can the case hold without being changed.



I would guarantee that the build would use no more than 650w max with the heaviest overclock. a 750w psu is aimed for dual card setups, and im making a pretty LARGE assumption that OEM mobos are most likely not sli/crossfire certified, and if they are, its most likely running 16x/4x lane speeds. even the dual gpu 6990 doesnt consume that match power.

@ belows original comment has the choice that solves just about all the problems if case size wants to be eliminated.

You seem to miss the point...

 

[dudewitbow]

You seem to miss the point...

even if you add a ton of peripherals, the one thing that causes a strain on a psu is another gpu. if 2 gpus can easily run on 750w psu, then its extremely easy for a computer wit 1 gpu to have alot of additional add ons(tons of HDD's case fans etc) on a 650w psu and still have room to overclock. if the point i missed was a psu. although the 570 stays on budget, there is absolutely no reason to run a 6970 at all, its more expensive than the 7950, less efficient, and is an inch longer, which brings up the case issue again.


tl;dr, the 7950 choice is overall better size and power consumption wise, psu is over necessary even if you add a bunch of addons onto the mobo(and the oem mobo probably lacks alot of addon slots as well)

 

[andersonchef87]

the card itself is about 6 1/2 to 6 1/4 inches long.

 

[dudewitbow]

personally idnt want the card size but wanted the max card size for the case. if that isnt possible, recons choices for above will fit the need.

 

[andersonchef87]

i probably have about 10 inches to spare, could be more if card is not to large width wise

 

[andersonchef87]

so would i have enough room for the top 2 choices that you gave me. @ Recon, or would i have to buy a new case as well?

 

[dudewitbow]

new case should also circulate air much better than oem case, and possibly cable management will be better as well.

 

[andersonchef87]

cool, thanks for your help, and everyone else as well

 

[James Shock]

cool, thanks for your help, and everyone else as well

so what card did u get?