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September 19, 2012 1:28:26 PM

My friend just told me that his Laptop died.
and he have been wanting to get a custom build desktop.
and he knew that i have done it before, so he came to me.
but i have never built a Intel one.
so i need some advise on the parts.



CPU : I5-2500k (He wants to overclock to 4.5)

CPU Cooler : Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme or Noctua NH-D14 ? (Trying to keep the OC I5 at low temp)

MB : P8Z77-V ? (Not really sure about Intel MBs, since i never had one)

HDD : He wants 2TB. not sure whether to go for seagate or WD. and 1TB x 2 or 2TB x 1.

SSD : 128G of SSD. (My first time looking for an SSD, dont know the brand and their performance).

GPU : Looking for a 660Ti

RAM : Looking for 16G (8 x 2) and will not have conflict with the CPU Cooler.

Power : Not really sure how much to put in this build.

Case : He wants an NZXT 810 White (Around $150 )

More about : 1200 budget build

September 19, 2012 1:48:37 PM

Seems kind of .. weird. Discard all of this and get these - :) 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100 92.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($103.74 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z77 MPOWER ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($155.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($105.50 @ Adorama)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($299.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Gaming 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($65.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1236
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

^ It's going to be mind-blowing. Trust me :) 
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September 19, 2012 1:58:18 PM

Does he need a monitor, Keyboard, and Mouse? If so, are you sure that's going to fit under 1200 bucks?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-a-pc-overcloc...

I would change a few things with the example system, like I would prefer a Z77 based board.

When I build machine I always opt for 2 spinning drives, and then use sync software (not RAID) to move important data on my main drive to the second one in order to ensure that a drive failure does not destroy my data (generally family pictures and stuff like that).

What is he doing that he would be using 16GB of RAM over 8GB of RAM? Running a VM farm or something? Unless you have some very specific purpose there is little reason to go 16 over 8.

As for power, if he isn't going to SLI/Crossfire anything just grab any power supply in the 500 watt, plus or minus 100 watts or so. Preferably something that is 80Plus or higher certified, but pretty much anything will do.

As for the SSD, again pretty much anything will do unless you have some specific purpose for it that would tilt your preference for certain types of flash or something along that line. If he just wants to boot fast and have snappy loading apps and doesn't want to care about moving certain programs around all the time I would almost suggest getting a 60/64GB SSD and using SRT. If they can't build their own machine, I doubt they really want to be moving around the stuff they want fast manually and SRT provides nearly all the advantages of 'fast feel' without the micro-management.

Also keep in mind that because it's not a pre-installed PC you need to throw in 100 bucks for Windows 7 Home Premium.
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September 19, 2012 1:59:34 PM

arzbhatia said:
Seems kind of .. weird. Discard all of this and get these - :) 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100 92.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($103.74 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z77 MPOWER ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($155.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($105.50 @ Adorama)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($299.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Gaming 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($65.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1236
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

^ It's going to be mind-blowing. Trust me :) 



Looks like a sick build,
but i thought ivy bridge are harder to cool than Sandy Bridge.
and he said he doesnt want a water cool o.o
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September 19, 2012 2:03:47 PM

Traciatim said:
Does he need a monitor, Keyboard, and Mouse? If so, are you sure that's going to fit under 1200 bucks?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-a-pc-overcloc...

I would change a few things with the example system, like I would prefer a Z77 based board.

When I build machine I always opt for 2 spinning drives, and then use sync software (not RAID) to move important data on my main drive to the second one in order to ensure that a drive failure does not destroy my data (generally family pictures and stuff like that).

What is he doing that he would be using 16GB of RAM over 8GB of RAM? Running a VM farm or something? Unless you have some very specific purpose there is little reason to go 16 over 8.

As for power, if he isn't going to SLI/Crossfire anything just grab any power supply in the 500 watt, plus or minus 100 watts or so. Preferably something that is 80Plus or higher certified, but pretty much anything will do.

As for the SSD, again pretty much anything will do unless you have some specific purpose for it that would tilt your preference for certain types of flash or something along that line. If he just wants to boot fast and have snappy loading apps and doesn't want to care about moving certain programs around all the time I would almost suggest getting a 60/64GB SSD and using SRT. If they can't build their own machine, I doubt they really want to be moving around the stuff they want fast manually and SRT provides nearly all the advantages of 'fast feel' without the micro-management.

Also keep in mind that because it's not a pre-installed PC you need to throw in 100 bucks for Windows 7 Home Premium.



He already have monitor and muse keyboard... etc
as for RAM he didnt say that he will use it for, but just said he wants 16g and they are cheap now days anyway.
yeah he already have the win7 CD
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September 19, 2012 6:38:08 PM

oxtis said:
Looks like a sick build,
but i thought ivy bridge are harder to cool than Sandy Bridge.
and he said he doesnt want a water cool o.o


The Corsair H100 is a UNIQUE liquid cooler. You never need to refill it or anything. It installs just like a normal air cooler. You don't need to do anything else :) 
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September 19, 2012 7:04:20 PM

There aren't any reviews on that board yet for the fact it was just released less than a week ago. This build will allow you to add a second card later on. Just add a case.


http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-80PLUS-Certified-Modular-... $86.00 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair CX 750 Watts 80PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V/EPS12V Power Supply CP-9020015-NA

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $336.98 save: $13.00
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
ASRock Z77 Extreme3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=ox_sc_a... $33.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $40.99 FREE SHIPPING
Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS2KIT4G3D1609DS1S00

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SH-222BB-BEBE-Internal-So... $16.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE 22X SATA DVDRW Internal Drive (Black), Bulk without Software

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-7200RPM-Interna... $109.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Seagate Barracuda 7200 2 TB 7200RPM SATA NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch Internal Desktop Hard Drive STBD2000101 - Retail Kit

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-2-5-Inch-Solid-SDSSDP-128... $89.95 + $0.00 shipping
SanDisk 128 GB 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive (SDSSDP-128G- G25)

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil... $90.70 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack

Total: $801.59 *not including shippping $& rebates

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?cat=CPU&Model=Z77... <----- another look at that board


http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Overvoltage-N660TI-PE-2GD5/dp... $309.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping | Price after rebate: $299.99
MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition Graphics Card with Triple Overvoltage and Enhanced PWM Design (N660TI PE 2GD5/OC)

or...

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-R7870-Twin-Frozr-2GD5/dp/B007... $259.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping | Price after rebate: $244.99
MSI Radeon HD7870, 2GB GDDR5, Mini DisplayPortx2, DVI-I, HDMI, PCI Express 3.0 Graphics Card R7870 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC

or...

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-PCI-Express-Displayport-... $229.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 OC 2GB GDDR5 PCI-Express 3.0 DVI-I/DVI-D/HDMI/Displayport SLI Ready Graphics Card GV-N660OC-2GD

or...

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-mini-Displayport-PCI-Exp... $219.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping | Price after rebate: $199.99
Gigabyte AMD Radeon HD 7850 2 GB GDDR5 DVI-I/HDMI/2x mini-Displayport PCI-Express 3.0 Graphic Card GV-R785OC-2GD


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005BZNDOO/ref=ox_sc_a... $134.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
ASUS VS228H-P 21.5-Inch Full-HD LED Monitor (Black) | 50,000,000:1 ASUS Smart Contrast Ratio; Full 1080P with HDMI

http://usa.asus.com/Display/LCD_Monitors/VS228HP/ <----- another look at that monitor
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September 19, 2012 7:16:11 PM

oxtis said:
My friend just told me that his Laptop died.
and he have been wanting to get a custom build desktop.
and he knew that i have done it before, so he came to me.
but i have never built a Intel one.
so i need some advise on the parts.



CPU : I5-2500k (He wants to overclock to 4.5)

CPU Cooler : Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme or Noctua NH-D14 ? (Trying to keep the OC I5 at low temp)

MB : P8Z77-V ? (Not really sure about Intel MBs, since i never had one)

HDD : He wants 2TB. not sure whether to go for seagate or WD. and 1TB x 2 or 2TB x 1.

SSD : 128G of SSD. (My first time looking for an SSD, dont know the brand and their performance).

GPU : Looking for a 660Ti

RAM : Looking for 16G (8 x 2) and will not have conflict with the CPU Cooler.

Power : Not really sure how much to put in this build.

Case : He wants an NZXT 810 White (Around $150 )

Just curious but is this a media build? 2TB hard drive, $150 case and all on a measly $1,200 budget.
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September 19, 2012 7:36:12 PM

arzbhatia said:
Review for the MSI Big Bang MPower - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTI6eMpdgrY

You can find a text based review at Guru3D too.

A $200 board for a $1,200 build. Does the OP use the Intel HD 4000 graphics or buy something like a 7750 ?
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September 19, 2012 7:40:11 PM

^ the build I suggested ends up at about 1236. With pretty good specs.
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September 19, 2012 7:54:28 PM

arzbhatia said:
^ the build I suggested ends up at about 1236. With pretty good specs.

No offense but that build sucks. No way is the OP going to be able to push two of those cards in SLI with that ghetto GS 600w psu you linked. The OP hasn't mentioned anything about an OS and/or monitor seeing how he didn't fill out the proper build format on here that's pinned to the top of this forum, but if his friend just came off a laptop then chances are he's going to need just about everything.

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September 19, 2012 7:59:49 PM

Ah well. Sorry about that. Only the PSU sucks I guess. Everything else is pretty good. I've tested all the other components myself.
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September 20, 2012 7:02:10 PM

The build is fine, as long as the end user understands the limitations of the power supply and that if he wants to upgrade his video he should wait a year or two and just get the 'then current' high end single card rather than throwing a second 660 in there.

The main problem is that with a windows license it's about 130 bucks over budget.

Drop that cooler to something air and more reasonable, and a 64GB SSD for SRT so that the micro-management and you have quite a nice machine . . . I can attest because it's pretty much the machine I run (I use a 7850 because the 660 didn't exists when I purchased, and I use 2x 1TB drives because I don't trust 1 drive to not fail). You could even get something like the Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H which would be perfectly fine and cheaper than the MSI board.

Though, I still don't understand the need for 16GB of RAM. If he's a normal end user that can't design or build his own machine I doubt he will ever use more than 4 unless running 3 games at the same time or something.
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October 4, 2012 10:36:37 PM

Why_Me said:
Just curious but is this a media build? 2TB hard drive, $150 case and all on a measly $1,200 budget.


Are you serious? Media PC? Are you trying to make out that 2TB is some incredibly small amount or something? It's nothing amazing, but it's at worst average, probably above average in terms of space - plenty of people still have just a 1 TB drive or even less, not to mention he also is getting an SSD.

As for the case, it's absolutely fine, it's very good for the price-point and highly recommended on this very site.

Lastly, $1,200 is more than enough to build a good gaming PC; people like you who insist that you need to spend huge amounts to build a good gaming PC are exactly what fuels console fanboys who use that as a point to criticise PC gaming, when everyone knows you obviously don't need to spend THAT much.
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