Upgrading GFX From Old XFX HD 5750

[shinku443]

Currently I have an XFX HD5750 -I used the CCC program to OC to 800mhz/1325mhz. But I have yet to see any difference in games so I'm not entirely convinced it OCed....im a noob at OCing and stuff so yeah :/

Anyways, I currently play on a 19" 1280x1024 monitor, but am hopefully upgrading to a 23" 1920x1080 in the future. I was wondering what would be the best deal for around a $300 price point for maxing out on games like Skyrim, Bf3, Spec Ops: The Line, etc.

I've been looking at the MSI HD7950 and was going to OC it but I'm really unsure of what to get. Any suggestions?


Current Specs:
1075t @ stock 3.0ghz - stock 1.2V
XFX HD5750
4GB Crucial Ballistix RAM
Mobo - GA-MA770-UD3

 

[17seconds]

If you wait until August 16th, the GTX 660 Ti will be the best card available for $300 or less.
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4869/nvidia_geforce_gtx_660_ti_2gb_reference_video_card_review/index14.html

 

[shinku443]

so the 660ti will be on par with 7950 and cost 100 dollars less? I havent had an Nvidia since my old gtx 7300 alright thanks for the suggestion, I think I'll hold off on the card and then order it to my dorm 1st semester. thanks brah!

 

[dudewitbow]

the reference model is going to sell for 300 if mac mall ends up being correct regardless IF tweaktown is correct with their benchmarks(albeit some of the games they use are slightly outdated and a majority of them are nvidia optimized/use physx) the 660ti should be a solid buy coming around 310$


I honestly do not know where tweaktown got their 200$ rumor from, placing it in the 200$ area would destroy all the sales for the nvidia cards in the area(the 560 ti, 560ti448, 570, 480 are the 4 main cards in this area, the 570 already having a 50$ price cut, which i doubt nvidia wants to price cut even more)

 

[shinku443]

so..... which would be a better buy future-proof wise, i don't plan on upgrading my computer for quite some time. the whole reason i bought the 1075t x6 over a quad core was because i wanted to be as futureproof as possible

 

[dudewitbow]

the one with less hassle will be the 660ti assuming that those benches are correct, and you prefer to leave everything at stock for the least problems. it also allows physx capabilities if needed, but will need to work very hard if you magically ran more screens or 2560x1600 resolution. the 7970 will be better in overclocking potential and high resolutions past the 1920x1080 resolution, but will lack the physx option(assuming you want it) and the odd non gaming programs that utilize the compute power of a amd card(as the gtx 6xx series aren't as well built for outside gaming work like the 5xx series as much)


still the 660ti i think will be a better buy(must wait on benchmarks from other sites before final purchase) if you like playing on stock or factory overclocked cards. 7950 if you prefer to overclock yourself and dont care about physx.

 

[shinku443]

well if i got the 7950 i would definitely OC it, but i dont plan on going so far up resolution wise, but isnt the bandwidth of the 660 only 192?

 

[dudewitbow]

well if i got the 7950 i would definitely OC it, but i dont plan on going so far up resolution wise, but isnt the bandwidth of the 660 only 192?

thats the thing holding it back "supposedly", other than that its identical to the 670 rumor wise. Its one of the reasons why im emphasizing waiting for other benchmarks from other sites that include commonly asked for titles like Skyrim(currently slight amd optimized) and Battlefield 3 (nvidia optimized)

 

[esrever]

If you are playing at 1080p, you are good with a 7870 and OC.

 

[shinku443]

If you are playing at 1080p, you are good with a 7870 and OC.

wouldnt a 7950 be better? 30 dollars more for the next lineup which can overclock to match the 7970 (100 dollars more than the 7950).

 

[esrever]

7950 is good too. I thought they were more than that.

 

[shinku443]

well with mail in rebate at newegg i believe the cheapest one was the MSI for 309.99 but they ran out of stock literally right when I was going to order it and then they jacked the price up. so 319.99 for MSI/Sapphire/Gigabyte version of the 7950 with a 3 free games coupon and like 7 for shipping. so around 330 all together after MIB and shipped.

Also a follow up question, which brand out of the HD 7950 would you recommend?
It's so hard to decide when they're all around the same price :/

 

[esrever]

I'd recommend sapphire

 

[shinku443]

oh crap they don't have the rebate. its 350+7 shipping for sapphire and 330+7 for the gigabyte....is sapphire worth the extra 20 over gigabyte?

-there's also powercolor and xfx for 330+7)

 

[dudewitbow]

well with mail in rebate at newegg i believe the cheapest one was the MSI for 309.99 but they ran out of stock literally right when I was going to order it and then they jacked the price up. so 319.99 for MSI/Sapphire/Gigabyte version of the 7950 with a 3 free games coupon and like 7 for shipping. so around 330 all together after MIB and shipped.

Also a follow up question, which brand out of the HD 7950 would you recommend?
It's so hard to decide when they're all around the same price :/

benchmark testing several models of the 7950

if ncix restock and doesnt change the price, its still at the lower price here

other than that, i recommend the HIS one from either newegg(the one with 6% off) or amazon which is the same priceish. though if you have the time, id wait for the 660ti benches as i personally see the 7950 only a good buy when its 330 or less

 

[17seconds]

This is not a good time to be making the type of purchase you'r considering. On August 16th we're going to see a cheaper card that outperforms the 7950, and prices on AMD cards will likely need some adjustment to make room (provided there's any more room to give). Give it some time, or you'll be kicking yourself.

 

[shinku443]

benchmark testing several models of the 7950

that doesn't include the gigabyte

 

[esrever]

oh crap they don't have the rebate. its 350+7 shipping for sapphire and 330+7 for the gigabyte....is sapphire worth the extra 20 over gigabyte?

-there's also powercolor and xfx for 330+7)

I would recommend not buying a reference cooler card.

theres a 7870 on newegg for $260. 7870 can easily OC pass the 7950 speeds.

 

[shinku443]

well we don't really know if it outperforms the 7950, but yeah I was still going to wait to buy the card cause I understand that if a new card comes out in the same grade as other cards, then those cards prices will have to adjust to compensate the new product on the market.

 

[dudewitbow]

arg so many posts when i edit my post, look above to see what i said.

 

[17seconds]

well we don't really know if it outperforms the 7950, but yeah I was still going to wait to buy the card cause I understand that if a new card comes out in the same grade as other cards, then those cards prices will have to adjust to compensate the new product on the market.

Don't discount that review. TweakTown did the same thing with the GTX 670, they put out a review a week or so before the official release and all the benchmarks were spot on. That review is real and legit. Just like when the GTX 670 was released, the GTX 660 Ti will throw the current options and prices into disarray.

Quotes:
"You're talking about a video card that is rumored to hit at the mid-$200 range yet performs like a video card priced $100 more. In this case we're talking about the HD 7950 specifically. You could argue that it can be compared against the more expensive HD 7970 at times, too."

"The problem for AMD, though, is that while this card is priced at levels around the HD 7850 and HD 7870, its performance is around that of the HD 7950 and HD 7970. You combine this with the fact that AMD really don't have any more room to move on price due to recent price drops. We really do wonder what AMD can do. NVIDIA do this excellent job of taking on multiple AMD models with just one video card and in this case, we see that happening again."
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4869/nvidia_geforce_gtx_660_ti_2gb_reference_video_card_review/index14.html

 

[shinku443]

hmmm a 7870 would be a better than 7950 OCing wise?

I'm considering the HIS one since its 6% off but I feel like when the 660ti comes out the prices should drop and I can see which card would be better for me.....grrrrrrr I hate buying stuff >.<

and can you clarify about the reference cooler card, I've only bought one card and I got it for the lifetime warranty which XFX doesn't do anymore. whats reference vs non-reference?

 

[esrever]

well the 660ti looks to be decent but nobody knows pricing yet. Could be priced at $350 for anyone knows.

The 7870 OCs to about as fast as a 7970 stock, slightly slower than a 7950 OC.

 

[dudewitbow]

Don't discount that review. TweakTown did the same thing with the GTX 670, they put out a review a week or so before the official release and all the benchmarks were spot on. That review is real and legit. Just like when the GTX 670 was released, the GTX 660 Ti will throw the current options and prices into disarray.

Quotes:
"You're talking about a video card that is rumored to hit at the mid-$200 range yet performs like a video card priced $100 more. In this case we're talking about the HD 7950 specifically. You could argue that it can be compared against the more expensive HD 7970 at times, too."

"The problem for AMD, though, is that while this card is priced at levels around the HD 7850 and HD 7870, its performance is around that of the HD 7950 and HD 7970. You combine this with the fact that AMD really don't have any more room to move on price due to recent price drops. We really do wonder what AMD can do. NVIDIA do this excellent job of taking on multiple AMD models with just one video card and in this case, we see that happening again."
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4869/nvidia_geforce_gtx_660_ti_2gb_reference_video_card_review/index14.html

the problem with the credibility, even stated in their comments is the games they tested. most of them are physx/nvidia optimized and aren't relevent to what most people want to play. then making a statement that the card is going to be in the 200's is extremely bold, as its already unlikely its going to be that price and is most likely going to hang near 300. nvidia wouldn't lower the price of a gtx 570 to 250$ just to easily be replaced by a new card. heck they even stated that the 660ti was built to surpass the gtx 580, so pricing it at a 570 level would be at a loss for them. An example where tweaktown showed an odd move was when they went to go test the 7970 GHZ edition a few weeks back. Notice that their test setup at the time was using catalyst drivers 12.1 and 12.2, at a time when 12.3/12.4/12.6/12.7 was already released.

 

[esrever]

Im not sure how tweaktown even gets a card to test since nvidia doesn't even give them cards. Their testing methods are also retarded, even if you can believe the data isn't just forged.