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September 20, 2012 4:01:04 AM

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$4000 is not a hard cap, it's a ballpark and can be increased. I guess what I'm asking is whether or not it's worth to put out for two Xeon processors, are they worth their weight in... cash?

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Hello,

This won't be my first build but I don't keep up with the hardware industry and it's important to me that I understand what I'm buying as I suspect it is with most buyers (I hope). I've done some research the past couple days into EVGA and Intel and I'm really conflicted, I want to go all out and have money put aside for that very reason. Here's where I'm at:

The first thing I saw when I started looking was EVGA's Classified SR-2. I'll be totally honest, I got excited but after reading more into it and other motherboard combos I'm not sure if it's practical. I want to believe it's worth it to put out for the processors but I'm no expert, that's why I came here.

Motherboard:
EVGA Classified SR-2 270-WS-W555-A2 LGA 1366 Intel 5520 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HPTX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Processor:
Intel Xeon Series LGA 1366
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...


Today I was looking at Intel's new Ivy Bridge and it looks very attractive to me, especially some of the new features:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

I did a little poking around in the 1155 motherboards, the ones EVGA offers (the ones I looked at) didn't get very good reviews and honestly this was not long before I started writing this post. Basically, the fact that I want to pull out all the stops makes me want to be sure about everything, I'm just looking for advice.

My last builds were ASUS/Intel/EVGA, I didn't have any problems as far as I remember. With this particular build however I'm looking to have SLI, SSDs, liquid cooling, and everything OC'd. This is relatively foreign ground to me so any expert advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you for reading, hopefully you can point me in the right direction.

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September 20, 2012 4:48:00 AM

Get the new EVGA SR-X that uses LGA 2011 cpu's! You can have up to 16 cores and 24 threads, but I'm not sure if your budget will allow it.

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September 20, 2012 4:57:22 AM

This XFX psu down below is manufactured by Seasonic as are all XFX psu's. Windows 7 is combo'd with the motherboard. Just add a case to this build.


http://www.amazon.com/XFX-PRO750W-Semi-Modular-80Plus-S... $111.71 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping | Price after rebate: $101.71
XFX PRO750W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80Plus 750 Watt Power Supply (Silver)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $279.98 save: $10.00 FREE SHIPPING
ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $379.98 save: $18.00 FREE SHIPPING
Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K
Cooler Master TPC 812 RR-T812-24PK-R1 120mm Sleeve with Dual Vertical Vapor Chamber TPC 812 CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $55.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model 997015

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-24xDVD-RW-Serial-Internal-DR... $23.49 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Asus 24xDVD-RW Serial ATA Internal OEM Drive DRW-24B1ST (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Internal-D... $98.03 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Internal Desktop Hard Drive Bulk/OEM - WD1002FAEX

http://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-7PC2... $199.90 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
SAMSUNG 830 Series 2.5-Inch 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-7PC256B/WW

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $409.99 - $400.00 after $10.00 rebate
MSI N670 PE 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $409.99 - $400.00 after $10.00 rebate
MSI N670 PE 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Total: $1,969.06 *not including shipping & rebates


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_670_Power_Ed... <----- review of that MSI GTX 670 w/benchmarks

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Extreme6/ <----- another look at that board along with a link to the latest bios update

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z77-extreme6-z77a-g... <----- review of that board w/benchmarks

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=265... <----- review of that CM cpu h/s @ Frosty Tech

http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm <----- that same CM cpu h/s on Frosty Tech's Top 5 list


120Hz refresh rate monitor. If your going to have that much GPU firepower than 120Hz is the only way to go. It makes gaming smooth as butter.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $389.99
BenQ XL2420T Black-Red 24" 5ms (2ms GTG) HDMI Widescreen Height & Pivot Adjustable LED-Backlit 120Hz 3D-Ready LCD Monitor 350 cd/m2 DC 12M:1 (1000:1)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $469.99 FREE SHIPPING
ViewSonic V3D245 Black 23.6" 2ms HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD 120Hz 3D Monitor 300 cd/m2 20,000,000:1 w/ Speakers & 3D glasses


Some headsets to have a look at.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $59.99 - $49.99 after $10.00 rebate FREE SHIPPING
Cooler Master CM Storm Sonuz 3.5mm Connector Circumaural Gaming Headset

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $79.99 FREE SHIPPING
Cooler Master CM Storm Sirus S 3.5mm Connector Circumaural 5.1 Surround Sound Gaming Headset
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September 20, 2012 5:00:28 AM

I would go for something like this with a custom loop or rasa kit PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($207.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($417.86 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($417.86 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($136.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHBS212-08 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Full (32/64-bit) ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2215.61
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-20 01:02 EDT-0400)
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September 20, 2012 5:05:20 AM

No no no no and NO... trust me, you DO NOT want dual Xeons for gaming, a 3930k will give you MORE performance because Xeons can't be overclocked and games do not use more than 4 cores and by the time they use 24 threads (dual xeons) crysis 400 will be about.

Give me a sec, i am building you a kick ass PC.
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September 20, 2012 5:06:04 AM

Why_Me said:
This XFX psu down below is manufactured by Seasonic as are all XFX psu's. Windows 7 is combo'd with the motherboard. Just add a case to this build.


http://www.amazon.com/XFX-PRO750W-Semi-Modular-80Plus-S... $111.71 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping | Price after rebate: $101.71
XFX PRO750W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80Plus 750 Watt Power Supply (Silver)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $279.98 save: $10.00 FREE SHIPPING
ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $379.98 save: $18.00 FREE SHIPPING
Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K
Cooler Master TPC 812 RR-T812-24PK-R1 120mm Sleeve with Dual Vertical Vapor Chamber TPC 812 CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $55.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model 997015

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-24xDVD-RW-Serial-Internal-DR... $23.49 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Asus 24xDVD-RW Serial ATA Internal OEM Drive DRW-24B1ST (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Internal-D... $98.03 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Internal Desktop Hard Drive Bulk/OEM - WD1002FAEX

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-2-5-Inch-Solid-SD... $185.90 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
SanDisk Extreme SSD 240 GB SATA 6.0 Gb-s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive SDSSDX-240G-G25

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $409.99 - $400.00 after $10.00 rebate
MSI N670 PE 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $409.99 - $400.00 after $10.00 rebate
MSI N670 PE 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Total: $1955.06 *not including shipping & rebates


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_670_Power_Ed... <----- review of that MSI GTX 670 w/benchmarks

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Extreme6/ <----- another look at that board along with a link to the latest bios update

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z77-extreme6-z77a-g... <----- review of that board w/benchmarks

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=265... <----- review of that CM cpu h/s @ Frosty Tech

http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm <----- that same CM cpu h/s on Frosty Tech's Top 5 list


120Hz refresh rate monitor. If your going to have that much GPU firepower than 120Hz is the only way to go. It makes gaming smooth as butter.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $389.99
BenQ XL2420T Black-Red 24" 5ms (2ms GTG) HDMI Widescreen Height & Pivot Adjustable LED-Backlit 120Hz 3D-Ready LCD Monitor 350 cd/m2 DC 12M:1 (1000:1)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $469.99 FREE SHIPPING
ViewSonic V3D245 Black 23.6" 2ms HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD 120Hz 3D Monitor 300 cd/m2 20,000,000:1 w/ Speakers & 3D glasses


Some headsets to have a look at.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $59.99 - $49.99 after $10.00 rebate FREE SHIPPING
Cooler Master CM Storm Sonuz 3.5mm Connector Circumaural Gaming Headset

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $79.99 FREE SHIPPING
Cooler Master CM Storm Sirus S 3.5mm Connector Circumaural 5.1 Surround Sound Gaming Headset
:lol:  beat me to it ;)  this is a nice build as well.
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September 20, 2012 5:15:13 AM

First of all, thank you for awesome responses and I'm looking forward to idroid's as well. I'm glad I didn't trust myself.

First things I'm noticing, I read of people putting ridiculous amounts of RAM in their builds, like 16 - 64 GB. However, you guys consistently go with 8GB, I take it that's more than enough for the time being.

I read a little about i5 vs i7 and would I be correct in saying the most significant difference is HT and cores? I didn't read in-depth but that's the jist I got of it.
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September 20, 2012 5:20:58 AM

Here you go:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($499.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte G1.ASSASSIN2 EATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($330.01 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair DOMINATOR 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($93.49 @ Amazon)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 4GB Video Card (3-Way SLI) ($459.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 4GB Video Card (3-Way SLI) ($459.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 4GB Video Card (3-Way SLI) ($459.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Azza Fusion 4000 ATX Full Tower Case ($260.30 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 1000W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $3153.73
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-20 01:20 EDT-0400)


i am working on the Watercooling system... give me a few minutes.
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September 20, 2012 5:23:45 AM

Why not go for something like this -

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($499.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme 81.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme11 SSI CEB LGA2011 Motherboard ($609.47 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($93.49 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ CompUSA)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($459.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($459.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Cosmos II (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($136.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3039.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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September 20, 2012 5:31:52 AM
September 20, 2012 5:36:17 AM

arzbhatia said:
Why not go for something like this -

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($499.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme 81.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme11 SSI CEB LGA2011 Motherboard ($609.47 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($93.49 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ CompUSA)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($459.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($459.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Cosmos II (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($136.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3039.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


*For this price range we recommend TRUE liquid coolers.

*Why woud you get an Asrock x79 Extreme 11 with only 2 GPUs??? that motherboard is for 4GPUs and 4GPUs only.

*The vertex 4 is superior to the Crucial M4

*The Cosmos II is very overrated and doesn't have much space for watercooling.

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September 20, 2012 5:40:46 AM

Again, thank you for such awesome responses, this is more than I expected. I'm going to go through these and I'll keep you updated.
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September 20, 2012 5:44:37 AM

gov said:
Again, thank you for such awesome responses, this is more than I expected. I'm going to go through these and I'll keep you updated.
Sounds good i will be around tomorrow to answer any questions as i am sure others will be as well. ;)  :hello: 
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September 20, 2012 6:23:57 AM

gov said:
Again, thank you for such awesome responses, this is more than I expected. I'm going to go through these and I'll keep you updated.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/552?vs=551 <------ Intel Core i7 3930K - 3.2GHz vs Intel Core i7 3770K - 3.5GHz

Take a look at that page and look at the gaming benches (middle of that page on down) then take a look at the power consumption under load bench towards the bottom of that page. Now ask yourself what a $570 cpu gets you vs a $330 cpu or better yet a $230 cpu seeing how the 3570K runs pretty much dead even with the 3770K. Then google some benchmarks to see what the benefit is to running a third card on a single or even dual monitor set up vs a dual card set up. It's comparable to taking your money and setting it on fire hence the reason you would be hard pressed to find one legit site on the net that recommends a tri card set up.
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September 20, 2012 6:34:17 AM

Why_Me said:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/552?vs=551 <------ Intel Core i7 3930K - 3.2GHz vs Intel Core i7 3770K - 3.5GHz

Take a look at that page and look at the gaming benches (middle of that page on down) then take a look at the power consumption under load bench towards the bottom of that page. Now ask yourself what a $570 cpu gets you vs a $330 cpu or better yet a $230 cpu seeing how the 3570K runs pretty much dead even with the 3770K. Then google some benchmarks to see what the benefit is to running a third card on a single or even dual monitor set up vs a dual card set up. It's comparable to taking your money and setting it on fire hence the reason you would be hard pressed to find one legit site on the net that recommends a tri card set up.


A 3930k is MUCH better than a 3770k/3570k for video editing/decoding/transcoding/encoding/rendering multitasking, media creation, Folding@home and keeping up with Tri and quad GPU setups.


I suppose that the OP will AT LEAST game on a 2560x1440 monitor... if he isn't then he is just wasting money because a ~1600$ rig can easily play any game and make it look butter smooth on a 120Hz 1080p monitor.
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September 20, 2012 6:39:54 AM

Why_Me said:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/552?vs=551 <------ Intel Core i7 3930K - 3.2GHz vs Intel Core i7 3770K - 3.5GHz

Take a look at that page and look at the gaming benches (middle of that page on down) then take a look at the power consumption under load bench towards the bottom of that page. Now ask yourself what a $570 cpu gets you vs a $330 cpu or better yet a $230 cpu seeing how the 3570K runs pretty much dead even with the 3770K. Then google some benchmarks to see what the benefit is to running a third card on a single or even dual monitor set up vs a dual card set up. It's comparable to taking your money and setting it on fire hence the reason you would be hard pressed to find one legit site on the net that recommends a tri card set up.
:lol:  +1
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September 20, 2012 6:48:50 AM

idroid said:
A 3930k is MUCH better than a 3770k/3570k for video editing/decoding/transcoding/encoding/rendering multitasking, media creation, Folding@home and keeping up with Tri and quad GPU setups.


I suppose that the OP will AT LEAST game on a 2560x1440 monitor... if he isn't then he is just wasting money because a ~1600$ rig can easily play any game and make it look butter smooth on a 120Hz 1080p monitor.

What's the title of this thread? I don't see anything about a professional video editing / CAD / rendering on there. What I see is: High-end Gaming Rig Advice - Budget up to $4000

As far as the 2560x1440 resolution...it looks nice but tell me one competitive gamer that plays FPS that doesn't use a 120Hz monitor if it's in their budget. I'm not talking RPG's where people go in for magic fairy dust or transgender elves, but FPS where people want to put a bullet through the opposing players head. That's 120Hz right there. The 3930K might as well come with a tube of K-Y Lube. There's suckers who don't read the benches, and they usually stick to their RPG/MMOPRG ..whatever they call those games, and then there's FPS gamers who have a clue. Those gamers don't care if their case is a cardboard box, as long as they are maxing out their FPS and everything is smooth.
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September 20, 2012 7:00:44 AM

Why_Me said:
What's the title of this thread? I don't see anything about a professional video editing / CAD / rendering on there. What I see is: High-end Gaming Rig Advice - Budget up to $4000

As far as the 2560x1440 resolution...it looks nice but tell me one competitive gamer that plays FPS that doesn't use a 120Hz monitor if it's in their budget. I'm not talking RPG's where people go in for magic fairy dust or transgender elves, but FPS where people want to put a bullet through the opposing players head. That's 120Hz right there. The 3930K might as well come with a tube of K-Y Lube. There's suckers who don't read the benches, and they usually stick to their RPG/MMOPRG ..whatever they call those games, and then there's FPS gamers who have a clue. Those gamers don't care if their case is a cardboard box, as long as they are maxing out their FPS and everything is smooth.


hahahahaha buddy i like you! i hate RPG games as well, god i just don't understand how someone can spend 7 hours a day sitting in front of a freaking PC playing a "game" that is based on raising a character.
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September 20, 2012 7:03:03 AM

Why_Me said:
What's the title of this thread? I don't see anything about a professional video editing / CAD / rendering on there. What I see is: High-end Gaming Rig Advice - Budget up to $4000

As far as the 2560x1440 resolution...it looks nice but tell me one competitive gamer that plays FPS that doesn't use a 120Hz monitor if it's in their budget. I'm not talking RPG's where people go in for magic fairy dust or transgender elves, but FPS where people want to put a bullet through the opposing players head. That's 120Hz right there. The 3930K might as well come with a tube of K-Y Lube. There's suckers who don't read the benches, and they usually stick to their RPG/MMOPRG ..whatever they call those games, and then there's FPS gamers who have a clue. Those gamers don't care if their case is a cardboard box, as long as they are maxing out their FPS and everything is smooth.
magic fairy dust or transgender elves :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
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September 20, 2012 7:06:56 AM

bigcyco1 said:
magic fairy dust or transgender elves :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 


i lol'ed really hard at that :lol: 

i know i am on a tech forum and most people here are what you would normally call a nerd but i just hate the kind of people who sit in front of their PCs 8 hours a day playing a boring-ass game while getting fatter and fatter and developing a chronic masturbation disorder.
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September 20, 2012 7:09:14 AM

idroid said:
hahahahaha buddy i like you! i hate RPG games as well, god i just don't understand how someone can spend 7 hours a day sitting in front of a freaking PC playing a "game" that is based on raising a character.

Sorry if I came off like a dick on here. Toms did a review with the 1155 (SB) x8 & x8 vs the NF200 Bridge (SB w x16 & x16) vs 1336 set up with x16 & x16. The 1336 lagged in third, and the NF200 set up ran pretty much dead even with the less expensive x8 & x8 set up. After that review the sales of the spendy boards with the NF200 bridges dropped like a rock.

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September 20, 2012 7:13:53 AM

bigcyco1 said:
magic fairy dust or transgender elves :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 

Nothing against those players.....the WoW type gamers it's just that if I can't race it, blow it up, or put a bullet through it's head then I don't want to play it. I mean I broke in playing Duke Nukem way back in the day and went strait to UT97 and then Tactical Ops which was a UT mod FPS that was like Counter Strike on crack. It's gotta be fast paced or it totally sucks imo. Even BF3 is like taking a bunch of downers tbh. It's just too slow for me. Give me a Glock, MP5 or a sniper rifle and I'm off to the races. Nothing beats killing someone over and over and over in a map and then spamming them so bad that they get butt hurt and leave the map. That's what it's all about right there.
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September 20, 2012 7:17:26 AM

Why_Me said:
Nothing against those players.....the WoW type gamers it's just that if I can't race it, blow it up, or put a bullet through it's head then I don't want to play it. I mean I broke in playing Duke Nukem way back in the day and went strait to UT97 and then Tactical Ops which was a UT mod FPS that was like Counter Strike on crack. It's gotta be fast paced or it totally sucks imo. Even BF3 is like taking a bunch of downers tbh. It's just too slow for me. Give me a Glock, MP5 or a sniper rifle and I'm off to the races. Nothing beats killing someone over and over and over in a map and then spamming them so bad that they get butt hurt and leave the map. That's what it's all about right there.
i agree :D 
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September 20, 2012 7:18:10 AM

Why_Me said:
Nothing beats killing someone over and over and over in a map and then spamming them so bad that they get butt hurt and leave the map. That's what it's all about right there.


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September 20, 2012 8:43:07 AM

Just for the record, I actively play every type of game but FPS are my favorite and 'magic fairy dust or transgender elves' had me laughing for a good minute.

The information Why_Me provided is hard to go against and I have to agree with him when it comes to tri-sli. With that said I'm also getting one:

BenQ XL2420T Black-Red 24" 5ms (2ms GTG) HDMI Widescreen Height & Pivot Adjustable LED-Backlit 120Hz 3D-Ready LCD Monitor 350 cd/m2 DC 12M:1 (1000:1)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

as I don't plan on gaming on more than one screen, also that monitor is awesome and I've yet to play on one of that quality.

Essentially I'm going with the build Why_Me suggested with an extra order of the RAM. I still have my heart set on a water-cooling system, I'm going off of idriod's suggestion for the case and cooling system itself. So, it comes down to:


- Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

- ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

- x2 Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model 997015
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- x2 MSI N670 PE 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- XFX PRO750W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80Plus 750 Watt Power Supply (Silver)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005IUVYA2/ref=ox_sc_a...

- Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Internal Desktop Hard Drive Bulk/OEM - WD1002FAEX
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036Q7MV0/ref=ox_sc_a...

- SAMSUNG 830 Series 2.5-Inch 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-7PC256B/WW
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0077CR66A/ref=ox_sc_a...

- Asus 24xDVD-RW Serial ATA Internal OEM Drive DRW-24B1ST (Black)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0033Z2BAQ/ref=ox_sc_a...

- AZZA Fusion 3000 (CSAZ-3000) Black SECC ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I haven't done any research into water-cooling systems so that's my next step. One question for idroid, you listed two radiators, will I need two or are you just suggesting options?

Thanks again for all your input, my brain is fried from reading reviews so I'm off to bed.



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September 20, 2012 8:52:42 AM

You always want to purchase you RAM in a single set if possible so it's all binned identical. Tbh 8GB of RAM is over kill for gaming atm but everyone is getting it for the fact it's dirt cheap and it's a way of future proofing.

If your set on 16GB then look at this set.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $114.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model 994015
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September 20, 2012 8:56:00 AM

gov said:


I haven't done any research into water-cooling systems so that's my next step. One question for idroid, you listed two radiators, will I need two or are you just suggesting options?

Thanks again for all your input, my brain is fried from reading reviews so I'm off to bed.


Yes, you will need both radiators and forget about the Fusion 3000, you need the Fusion 4000 to fit both rads (your temps will be VERY close to ambient)

DO NOT get a modified GTX670 if you're gonna watercool it, i suggested an 4GB EVGA GTX670 that uses the same PBC of an standard GTX680 (that's why i linked a GTX680 waterblock) because i thought you were gonna game @5760x1080 but 2GB of VRAM are enough for 1080p gaming, get this GTX670: http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/amazon/evga-video-card-02gp4... with this block: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16599/ex-blc-1178/EK_...


FYI, you should only use distilled water in your loop, forget the flashy colored coolants.
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September 20, 2012 7:44:48 PM

Why_Me said:
You always want to purchase you RAM in a single set if possible so it's all binned identical. Tbh 8GB of RAM is over kill for gaming atm but everyone is getting it for the fact it's dirt cheap and it's a way of future proofing.

If your set on 16GB then look at this set.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $114.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model 994015


I'll take your word for it and just order 8GB.

Sadly, after a call from work, it looks like I'll hardly even have time to put the computer together so I guess I'll be skipping the water-cooling for now. I don't see why I can't come back to it in the future though, right?

What's the difference between the modified 670 and the EVGA 670? Other than the fact that I shouldn't order the modded one if I intend on water-cooling the system.
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September 20, 2012 9:02:19 PM

gov said:
I'll take your word for it and just order 8GB.

Sadly, after a call from work, it looks like I'll hardly even have time to put the computer together so I guess I'll be skipping the water-cooling for now. I don't see why I can't come back to it in the future though, right?

What's the difference between the modified 670 and the EVGA 670? Other than the fact that I shouldn't order the modded one if I intend on water-cooling the system.

The cards like the EVGA 670's have reference cooling. they vent a lot of heat out of the back of the case which is a good thing, but they suck when it come to over clocking them. That and they run warmer than your cards with non reference cooling like the MSI and Gigabyte 670's. If you have a case with good cooling...side cooling is a must and Corsair and Cooler Master cases own in that dept, your good to go with a card like that MSI I posted. These days water cooling is for hobbyist seeing how it's not needed with today's components. Cards run three to four times cooler than they did five years ago, cpu's air coolers are good for o/c up to 4.8Ghz and sometimes beyond and cases these days come with larger fans (200mm & 140mm).


Here's a board that just hit Newegg this morning. This board runs dual cards @ x16 & x16 instead of the normal x8 & x8.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $299.99
ASRock Z77 WS LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.asrock.com/server/overview.asp?Model=Z77%20W... <---- another look at that board
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September 20, 2012 9:04:51 PM

Why_Me said:
Cards run three to four times cooler than they did five years ago


thats an exaggeration... i don't renember any card running @180°C :lol: 
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September 20, 2012 9:23:04 PM

idroid said:
thats an exaggeration... i don't renember any card running @180°C :lol: 

OK...that was a bit of an exaggeration. :D 

But if you look at a card like the GTX 480 that came out a few years ago vs something like that MSI 670 there's a major difference in temps.


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_670_Power_Ed... <----- 37C (97F) @ idle and 70C (158F) under load


http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r... <----- 49C (120F) @ idle and 95C (203F) under load
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September 20, 2012 9:25:49 PM

Why_Me said:
OK...that was a bit of an exaggeration. :D 

But if you look at a card like the GTX 480 that came out a few years ago vs something like that MSI 670 there's a major difference in temps.


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_670_Power_Ed... <----- 37C (97F) @ idle and 70C (158F) under load


http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r... <----- 49C (120F) @ idle and 95C (203F) under load


Damn!! boy that card was HOT!! you could barbecue on it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM0uRcY6828 <---- skip to 0:40 can you imagine the temps between those cards???
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September 20, 2012 9:32:24 PM

idroid said:
Damn!! boy that card was HOT!! you could barbecue on it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM0uRcY6828 <---- skip to 0:40 can you imagine the temps between those cards???

A person could probably bake a cake in that case after a few hours of gaming. Yikes!
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September 20, 2012 9:43:25 PM

Why_Me said:

Here's a board that just hit Newegg this morning. This board runs dual cards @ x16 & x16 instead of the normal x8 & x8.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $299.99
ASRock Z77 WS LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.asrock.com/server/overview.asp?Model=Z77%20W... <---- another look at that board


Would you suggest I go with that then? Wouldn't that give more potential for performance?

I'm looking at Cooler Master cases now, almost finished with this build it seems and I may even order today.
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September 20, 2012 10:01:32 PM

gov said:
Would you suggest I go with that then? Wouldn't that give more potential for performance?

I'm looking at Cooler Master cases now, almost finished with this build it seems and I may even order today.

No. I mean it runs dual cards @ x16 but 1155 cpu's narrow down those lanes to x8 so the only benefit to that board is if you planned on running more than two cards. People will buy it though for the x16 lanes though thinking they are going to get more FPS and of course it comes with the lighted LED's on the heat sinks so they will buy into that also.


Here's a CM case to have a look at. It came out about 5 - 6 months ago.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Computer-X-Dock-RC-... $109.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master HAF XM Mid Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0 Ports and X-Dock (RC-922XM-KKN1)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... <----- that same case on newegg

http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6821 <---- and that case on the cooler master site


And the side fan for that case.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $25.99 FREE SHIPPING
COOLER MASTER R4-MFJR-07FK-R1 200mm Case Fan


Cheaper on amazon

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MegaFlow-Computer-R... $14.99
Cooler Master MegaFlow 200mm Black Computer Case Cooling Fan R4-MFJR-07FK-R1
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September 20, 2012 10:13:43 PM

Ok, the final product:

- Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

- ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

- Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model 997015
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- x2 MSI N670 PE 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- XFX PRO750W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80Plus 750 Watt Power Supply (Silver)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005IUVYA2/ref=ox_sc_a...

- Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Internal Desktop Hard Drive Bulk/OEM - WD1002FAEX
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036Q7MV0/ref=ox_sc_a...

- SAMSUNG 830 Series 2.5-Inch 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-7PC256B/WW
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0077CR66A/ref=ox_sc_a...

- Asus 24xDVD-RW Serial ATA Internal OEM Drive DRW-24B1ST (Black)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0033Z2BAQ/ref=ox_sc_a...

- Cooler Master HAF XM Mid Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0 Ports and X-Dock (RC-922XM-KKN1)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007Q7EG7I/ref=ox_sc_a...

- COOLER MASTER R4-MFJR-07FK-R1 200mm Case Fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- BenQ XL2420T Black-Red 24" 5ms (2ms GTG) HDMI Widescreen Height & Pivot Adjustable LED-Backlit 120Hz 3D-Ready LCD Monitor 350 cd/m2 DC 12M:1 (1000:1)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Just want to thank everyone again for all the help and advice, I seriously appreciate it as I'd be buying some dumb *** had I not come to you.
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September 20, 2012 10:19:34 PM

gov said:
Ok, the final product:

- Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

- ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

- Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model 997015
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- x2 MSI N670 PE 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- XFX PRO750W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80Plus 750 Watt Power Supply (Silver)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005IUVYA2/ref=ox_sc_a...

- Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Internal Desktop Hard Drive Bulk/OEM - WD1002FAEX
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036Q7MV0/ref=ox_sc_a...

- SAMSUNG 830 Series 2.5-Inch 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-7PC256B/WW
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0077CR66A/ref=ox_sc_a...

- Asus 24xDVD-RW Serial ATA Internal OEM Drive DRW-24B1ST (Black)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0033Z2BAQ/ref=ox_sc_a...

- Cooler Master HAF XM Mid Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0 Ports and X-Dock (RC-922XM-KKN1)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007Q7EG7I/ref=ox_sc_a...

- COOLER MASTER R4-MFJR-07FK-R1 200mm Case Fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- BenQ XL2420T Black-Red 24" 5ms (2ms GTG) HDMI Widescreen Height & Pivot Adjustable LED-Backlit 120Hz 3D-Ready LCD Monitor 350 cd/m2 DC 12M:1 (1000:1)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Just want to thank everyone again for all the help and advice, I seriously appreciate it as I'd be buying some dumb *** had I not come to you.



PERFECT!!
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September 20, 2012 10:21:48 PM

Your going to have one beast of a gaming rig when you get that all put together...and I mean a beast! Look for that side fan @ amazon...I edited that link up above with the case and threw in the link to amazon, combo that cpu with the cpu cooler, and the motherboard with Windows7.
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September 20, 2012 10:37:37 PM

Best answer selected by gov.
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September 20, 2012 10:41:25 PM

Why_Me said:
Your going to have one beast of a gaming rig when you get that all put together...and I mean a beast! Look for that side fan @ amazon...I edited that link up above with the case and threw in the link to amazon, combo that cpu with the cpu cooler, and the motherboard with Windows7.


Awesome, switched those around. Also getting that cpu cooler, Windows 7, two copies of Borderlands 2, and McAfee 2013 all for free. I'll be sure to come back and post pictures of the setup, thanks again everyone!
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