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September 21, 2012 12:59:55 AM

Hey, i decided to make a new thread for the machine that im building. Here are the specs:

Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz
ASRock H77M LGA
Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 7200RPM
AMD Radeon HD 7770 1GB
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600
LG CD/DVD Burner
APEVIA X-TROOPER Junior Series

Im making this little build for games like Battlefield 3, i also play games like Skyrim, Dirt 3, GTA IV.

They told me that the Intel i3 wasnt enough for this, that i should better build with a AMD Six-core to run it smooth, is that true?

Thanks :bounce: 

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September 21, 2012 2:52:59 AM

Need to know a few more things first but, If I was going to use an AMD cpu for a budget gamer, it wouldn't be a six-core... The system looks fine, get a decent PSU. If you want more specific advice, then fill out the template so we'll have all the info necessary to provide the most useful advice on specific components: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/353572-31-build-upgra...
September 21, 2012 3:14:21 AM

i3 2120 is MORE than enough for the titles you have listed. If the 6 core you're talking about is the FX-6100, they generally perform WORSE than the i3's.

Stick with what you have :)  It would yield the best performance for your money!

Also, not to mention the amazing upgrade path you have :) 
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September 21, 2012 3:23:00 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: Around November-December

Budget Range: $400-$500

System Usage from Most to Least Important:Gaming, Internet, Daily Use

Are you buying a monitor: No, i have 1 already

Parts to Upgrade:

Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz
ASRock H77M LGA
Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 7200RPM
AMD Radeon HD 7770 1GB
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600
LG CD/DVD Burner
APEVIA X-TROOPER Junior Series
Total Price with Shipping: $524

or
AMD FX-6100 3.3GHz 6 Core
ASRock 970 EXTREME3
Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 7200RPM
AMD Radeon HD 7770 1GB
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600
LG CD/DVD Burner
APEVIA X-TROOPER Junior Series
Total Price with Shipping: $525


Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: www.newegg.com

Location: City, State/Region, Country - Mexico, im buying it myself

Parts Preferences: AMD

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Crossfire, but im only using 1 video card.

Your Monitor Resolution: 1440X900

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: My Alienware M11X R1 Doesnt give me the perfomance i want

Games:

Battlefield 3
DIRT 3
Skyrim
Team Fortress 2
Crysis 2
September 21, 2012 3:26:19 AM

I like the motherboard of the i3, it has a VGA and a HDMI but it doesnt have a onboard graphics, is it one like that for the AMD FX-6100?
September 21, 2012 4:03:38 AM

One thing I've always enjoyed is OCing my cpu, and the Intel board and chip you've got there won't OC. Like I said before though, it's a fine system and I'm not arguing against getting it.

For a better comparison, forget the FX-6100 entirely. For the same money you can drop an FX-4170 in that ASRock board and even at stock clocks it will destroy the FX-6100 in gaming performance. For $30 you can get a good CPU cooler so you can shoot for a nice high OC and it will perform very well for the money.

But that's just me. Like I said, I enjoy exploring a CPU's abilities rather than taking it as it is. The Intel system is great and if you want a better comparison using AMD then compare it to the FX-4170, forget the FX-6100 for gaming.
September 21, 2012 4:05:07 AM

larkspur said:
One thing I've always enjoyed is OCing my cpu, and the Intel board and chip you've got there won't OC. Like I said before though, it's a fine system and I'm not arguing against getting it.

For a better comparison, forget the FX-6100 entirely. For the same money you can drop an FX-4170 in that ASRock board and even at stock clocks it will destroy the FX-6100 in gaming performance. For $30 you can get a good CPU cooler so you can shoot for a nice high OC and it will perform very well for the money.

But that's just me. Like I said, I enjoy exploring a CPU's abilities rather than taking it as it is. The Intel system is great and if you want a better comparison using AMD then compare it to the FX-4170, forget the FX-6100 for gaming.


Better comparison? Swap out the FX CPU's you mentioned and replace it with the Phenom II X4 965, it's better than both of those in almost any application while maintaining ability to OC.
September 21, 2012 4:10:22 AM

Intel Core i3 2120 based rig -

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($136.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $530.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-21 00:07 EDT-0400)


AMD Phenom II X4 965 based rig -

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($92.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($136.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $530.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-21 00:09 EDT-0400)


They'll give you the same performance, the choice is yours :) 

Intel rig will allow you to upgrade to an i5/i7 later down the road; the AMD rig will allow you to 'upgrade' to the Bulldozer series of FX CPU's, or for a true upgrade, Piledriver later this year/early next year.
September 21, 2012 4:11:38 AM

Nanovinnie said:
I like the motherboard of the i3, it has a VGA and a HDMI but it doesnt have a onboard graphics, is it one like that for the AMD FX-6100?

The i3 has on-board graphics built-in while the AMD CPU's do not.

If you're gaming, on-board graphics is irrelevant, you would want a dedicated card no matter how powerful the integrated graphics are.
September 21, 2012 4:12:00 AM

mocchan said:
Better comparison? Swap out the FX CPU's you mentioned and replace it with the Phenom II X4 965, it's better than both of those in almost any application while maintaining ability to OC.

Not sure where you're coming from. An FX-4170 is a tier above the 965 and is already clocked at 4.2 (4.3 turbo). I'm seeing some people claiming 5ghz OC out of them, results vary but um, no, a 965 is not better than a FX-4170 for gaming at least according to Tom's.
September 21, 2012 4:20:44 AM

larkspur said:
Not sure where you're coming from. An FX-4170 is a tier above the 965 and is already clocked at 4.2 (4.3 turbo). I'm seeing some people claiming 5ghz OC out of them, results vary but um, no, a 965 is not better than a FX-4170 for gaming at least according to Tom's.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=434

I think that says enough, that's a 4 Module BD chip that performs on-par with the X4 955. Remove 1 or 2 Modules from that and what do you get? Phenom II still gets my vote, if not the Phenom, then get at least an i3.

Though generally speaking, considering the FX-41xx series of CPU's don't perform very well until they have a very modest OC, this would bring OP way out of budget considering an aftermarket cooler will cost him an extra $20. If he can squeeze more money into his budget (say $100), I would generally recommend getting an i5 anyway.

**EDIT**

Adding in i3 2100 vs FX-8150.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=289
September 21, 2012 4:28:37 AM

mocchan said:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=434

I think that says enough, that's a 4 Module BD chip that performs on-par with the X4 955. Remove 1 or 2 Modules from that and what do you get? Phenom II still gets my vote, if not the Phenom, then get at least an i3.

Though generally speaking, considering the FX-41xx series of CPU's don't perform very well until they have a very modest OC, this would bring OP way out of budget considering an aftermarket cooler will cost him an extra $20. If he can squeeze more money into his budget (say $100), I would generally recommend getting an i5 anyway.

**EDIT**

Adding in i3 2100 vs FX-8150.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=289


Hey man, so my rig is fine?


Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz
ASRock H77M LGA
Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 7200RPM
MSI AMD Radeon HD 7770 1GB
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600
LG CD/DVD Burner
APEVIA X-TROOPER Junior Series
Total Price with Shipping: $524

Its almost like yours, but i like more my case and some other stuff.

Is it ok? :bounce: 
September 21, 2012 4:30:39 AM

Nanovinnie said:
Hey man, so my rig is fine?


Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz
ASRock H77M LGA
Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 7200RPM
MSI AMD Radeon HD 7770 1GB
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600
LG CD/DVD Burner
APEVIA X-TROOPER Junior Series
Total Price with Shipping: $524

Its almost like yours, but i like more my case and some other stuff.

Is it ok? :bounce: 


Yes, it's fine :) 

You can use whatever case you'd like, every person has a preference :lol:  I just threw in the Elite 430 as a filler.

What PSU will you be using?
September 21, 2012 4:31:45 AM

The one that comes with the case. I like the idea of the Intel processors, maybe in a year i will upgrade to a i5 :bounce: 
September 21, 2012 4:33:04 AM

Hmm..can you link me to the product page? The one I'm looking at doesn't have a PSU.

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September 21, 2012 4:36:06 AM
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Hmm, they don't list the specs of the PSU, however, why don't you give this one a shot? :) 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($136.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Apevia X-TRPJR-GN ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $517.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-21 00:34 EDT-0400)

The Trooper case in this list has Green LED's, I can swap that out for one without LED's or a different color if you wished.

This is also a little cheaper than the configuration you listed WHILE INCLUDING a VERY high quality PSU.

**EDIT**

Same list, only changed out the case for a non-LED.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($136.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Apevia X-TRPJR-NW-BK ATX Mid Tower Case ($38.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $516.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-21 00:37 EDT-0400)
September 21, 2012 4:38:49 AM

mocchan said:
Hmm, they don't list the specs of the PSU, however, why don't you give this one a shot? :) 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($136.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Apevia X-TRPJR-GN ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $517.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-21 00:34 EDT-0400)

The Trooper case in this list has Green LED's, I can swap that out for one without LED's or a different color if you wished.

This is also a little cheaper than the configuration you listed WHILE INCLUDING a VERY high quality PSU.

**EDIT**

Same list, only changed out the case for a non-LED.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($136.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Apevia X-TRPJR-NW-BK ATX Mid Tower Case ($38.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $516.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-21 00:37 EDT-0400)


Nice, but i want it without a LED at the side, just blank. :)  Also, why are the parts not in Newegg.com?
September 21, 2012 4:40:07 AM

Click on the links and choose the Newegg option :)  It should take you straight there!

Also, the list at the bottom of that post has a case without LED's :) 
September 21, 2012 4:41:00 AM

mocchan said:
Click on the links and choose the Newegg option :)  It should take you straight there!

Also, the list at the bottom of that post has a case without LED's :) 


Yeah i just saw those, hahaha, how stupid. Hey so with this rig maybe i can play Battlefield 3 atleast on medium settings and 1440x900 resolution? :bounce: 
September 21, 2012 4:43:00 AM

Nanovinnie said:
Yeah i just saw those, hahaha, how stupid. Hey so with this rig maybe i can play Battlefield 3 atleast on medium settings and 1440x900 resolution? :bounce: 

At that resolution, you could probably play on High :) 
September 21, 2012 4:44:36 AM

mocchan said:
At that resolution, you could probably play on High :) 


Thanks a lot for all your time and answers, you are really awesome! :bounce:  Selected for best answer :)  :) 
September 21, 2012 4:45:17 AM

Best answer selected by NANOVINNIE.
September 21, 2012 4:49:51 AM

You're very welcome :)  And thank you for best answer!
September 21, 2012 4:58:12 AM

mocchan said:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=434

I think that says enough

Nah, that's an incorrect comparison, you need to understand that an FX-4170 is a much better gamer than an FX-8150 and will obviously will clock higher. Clockspeed makes a big difference when gaming these days with an AMD cpu. But the goal is always to help the OP, which has been accomplished, so hugs all around :) 
September 21, 2012 5:02:15 AM

larkspur said:
Nah, that's an incorrect comparison, you need to understand that an FX-4170 is a much better gamer than an FX-8150 and will obviously will clock higher. Clockspeed makes a big difference when gaming these days with an AMD cpu. But the goal is always to help the OP, which has been accomplished, so hugs all around :) 


http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/amd_fx_815... :) 

But yes, you're right, the goal of helping OP has been accomplished, so nothing more to say.

September 21, 2012 5:10:48 AM

Here's my final rig:

Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 7200RPM $82
Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz $125
ASRock H77M LGA $70
CORSAIR XMS3 8GB DDR3 1333 $37
LG DVD Burner $22
SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7770 $125
APEVIA X-TROOPER Junior Series With Power Supply $59

Total: $520
*Includes shipping*

Thanks guys, i hope i can run my games on atleast medium settings like Battlefield 3. :hello:  Bye and thank you.
September 21, 2012 5:11:50 AM

Good luck and have fun! :) 
!