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My first PC build: $800

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September 22, 2012 2:44:48 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: roughly 2 weeks from now

Budget Range: $800 (Including Monitor and OS) After Rebates; Before Shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (gaming, watching movies, surfing the internet)

Are you buying a monitor: Yes


Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.ca

Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Parts Preferences: Intel, but if AMD fits for the budget then that's fine

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 or better

Additional Comments: Nothing too specific, but I'd like not to have to upgrade to play new games for at least 6 months

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: All I have is a laptop at the moment, and I'm tired of the overheating. Even YouTube or Skype calls are a challenge. Plus, PC games on a decent system are just better XD

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Here are some parts I'm thinking of, because these threads seem to go better when the builder makes the first move.

Keep in mind that my heart is not set on anything

http://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?...

As you can see, I need help choosing a video card and monitor, and I'm also unsure about the CPU. I want to run games like Borderlands 2, Skyrim, Fallout 3 + New Vegas, Witcher 2, Mass Effect 3, and Assassin's Creed 3 smoothly.

More about : build 800

September 22, 2012 3:03:47 AM

Is the $800 for everything ~minus~ the monitor? Because if you're already at a $600, and you only have $200 to buy a monitor and a GPU, then you might have some issues.

For $200, I'd recommend dropping an extra $20 on this GPU

If you're ~that~ uncomfortable dropping the extra money, I'd go for this one.

If you need to buy both a 1080p monitor and a GPU that will run those games at playable frame rates, I'm afraid you're out of luck :/ 

This monitor is the cheapest decent 1080p monitor I could find. If you got it, that'd leave you with roughly $80 in your budget, which isn't enough to buy a video card worth buying.

The CPU ought to be fine for your budget, i3's don't bottleneck most modern GPU's, certainly not anything that you could get on your budget.
September 22, 2012 3:08:42 AM

Buy this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ CompUSA)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus VH238H 23.0" Monitor ($129.98 @ NCIX US)
Total: $825.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-21 23:09 EDT-0400)

Read this: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum2.php?config=tom...
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September 22, 2012 3:09:32 AM

samuraimastr said:
Is the $800 for everything ~minus~ the monitor? Because if you're already at a $600, and you only have $200 to buy a monitor and a GPU, then you might have some issues.

For $200, I'd recommend dropping an extra $20 on this GPU

If you're ~that~ uncomfortable dropping the extra money, I'd go for this one.

If you need to buy both a 1080p monitor and a GPU that will run those games at playable frame rates, I'm afraid you're out of luck :/ 

This monitor is the cheapest decent 1080p monitor I could find. If you got it, that'd leave you with roughly $80 in your budget, which isn't enough to buy a video card worth buying.

The CPU ought to be fine for your budget, i3's don't bottleneck most modern GPU's, certainly not anything that you could get on your budget.

Oops, I should've mentioned that. Yes, I'll be buying the monitor separately from the $800 budget. How do the rest of the parts look? :) 
September 22, 2012 3:22:02 AM

idroid said:
Buy this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ CompUSA)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus VH238H 23.0" Monitor ($129.98 @ NCIX US)
Total: $825.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-21 23:09 EDT-0400)

Read this: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum2.php?config=tom...

I see on these forums that PSU quality is stressed all the time. Are XFX well-known? Maybe I'm just out of the loop, but I don't see them recommended here very often.
September 22, 2012 3:24:08 AM

Rubber Ducky said:
Looking good, though I am a tad skeptical about the OS trick. Have you tried it yourself? Also, I see on these forums that PSU quality is stressed all the time. Are XFX well-known? Maybe I'm just out of the loop, but I don't see them recommended here very often.


XFX are extremely high quality PSUs manufactured by seasonic, read this: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum2.php?config=tom... take a look at the bottom.
September 22, 2012 3:28:26 AM

Rubber Ducky said:
Oops, I should've mentioned that. Yes, I'll be buying the monitor separately from the $800 budget. How do the rest of the parts look? :) 

Haha, excellent, that helps quite a bit. How much future proofing are you attempting to do here? As in, when you say "play new games for at least 6 months," do you mean that after six months you'll be upgrading? If that's the case, I would take the mobo from idroid's build. If you think you'll be upgrading off of this build for awhile (which is to say your PSU and mobo) then I'd stick with what you have, as that will allow you to, say, throw in another video card. If you want the extra 1.5", then I'd also consider idroid's monitor.
September 22, 2012 3:32:02 AM

i see you're from canada:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($192.99 @ Computer Valley)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Memory Express)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($36.04 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.88 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($217.66 @ DirectCanada)
Case: BitFenix Outlaw ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $736.54
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-21 23:32 EDT-0400)
September 23, 2012 12:44:00 AM

idroid said:
i see you're from canada:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($192.99 @ Computer Valley)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Memory Express)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($36.04 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.88 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($217.66 @ DirectCanada)
Case: BitFenix Outlaw ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $736.54
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-21 23:32 EDT-0400)

Really liking this, I just have two questions.

1. Isn't Z77 for overclocking? I didn't think anything except "K" CPUs could be overclocked
2. Any reason you went for the WD Blue instead of Black? Just to save money?
September 23, 2012 12:52:23 AM

Rubber Ducky said:
Really liking this, I just have two questions.

1. Isn't Z77 for overclocking? I didn't think anything except "K" CPUs could be overclocked
2. Any reason you went for the WD Blue instead of Black? Just to save money?


*yep, Z77 is for overclocking and you can overclock the 3470 by up to 400Mhz if you want... that motherboard also supports dual GPUs in 8x/8x configurations so if you ever need more power you can add a second 7870

*Yes
September 26, 2012 11:22:39 AM

Come on guys, I want to order the parts this week, and I want to make sure it's right :( 
September 26, 2012 8:37:11 PM

You wouldn't need to make ~any~ changes to your build. That card also runs on PCIe 3.0 and only requires two 6-pin connectors as well.
September 26, 2012 8:41:27 PM

idroid said:
*yep, Z77 is for overclocking and you can overclock the 3470 by up to 400Mhz if you want... that motherboard also supports dual GPUs in 8x/8x configurations so if you ever need more power you can add a second 7870

*Yes

My brothers friends i7-3770 (non-K) could get up to 4.2GHz. So are you sure about that?
September 26, 2012 8:44:01 PM

iDroids build is pretty good, but I would suggest another case, like an Antec One, Three Hundred Two (there is an all black version at Canada Computers) or possibly a BitFenix Shinobi. Additionally, an i5-3570K and a Hyper 212 EVO should fit in the budget.
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