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August 2, 2012 6:56:04 PM

I just got a new grapics card for my Windows XP. A Diamond Stealth ATI Radeon 9250 with a spaking new power supply.

And yet... I still cannot play the games I want. Error message: "Your Grapics card does not meet requirements"

PLEASE please, help me with this. I was foolish and relied on a random computer tech who obviously did not listen to me when I said I wanted to game freely over any game.

Games tested and failed: Star Wars the Old Republic, Rift and Spore Creature Creator.

Games Playable: Zoo Tycoon, Battle for Middle Earth I and II and Red Alert 2.

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a b U Graphics card
August 2, 2012 7:03:21 PM

Can you return the card to the store, and get a more appropriate card?

I suggest you Radeon HD 6670 DDR3 if you have a minimum of a 400 Watt power supply.
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a b U Graphics card
August 2, 2012 7:05:13 PM

that card is the lowest of low end cards. if you are using XP and that card, i would assume the rest of your system is to old for gaming as well
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a b U Graphics card
August 2, 2012 7:05:47 PM

It is a low range card from 8 years ago. It won't play much past the games that were out from the same time.

Do you have an older PC with AGP instead of PCIe?
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a b U Graphics card
August 2, 2012 7:06:25 PM

jemm said:
Can you return the card to the store, and get a more appropriate card?

I suggest you Radeon HD 6670 DDR3 if you have a minimum of a 400 Watt power supply.



Even with that GPU I'm assuming the rest of his PC is an older one, and thus wouldn't do all that much for him.
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August 2, 2012 7:09:08 PM

jemm said:
Can you return the card to the store, and get a more appropriate card?

I suggest you Radeon HD 6670 DDR3 if you have a minimum of a 400 Watt power supply.


I can and I most certainly will.

MY power supply was upgraded, I have no idea how to check it to know what wattage is, but will it work?
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a b U Graphics card
August 2, 2012 7:10:29 PM

nobodyslove said:
I can and I most certainly will.

MY power supply was upgraded, I have no idea how to check it to know what wattage is, but will it work?


The wattage should be on a sticker on the side facing you when you open your case.

What CPU and motherboard do you have?
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August 2, 2012 7:11:44 PM

trapper said:
Even with that GPU I'm assuming the rest of his PC is an older one, and thus wouldn't do all that much for him.


I have a Pent 4 processor with 3 gigs
also two sticks of memory.... its still a good desktop.
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August 2, 2012 7:15:58 PM

trapper said:
The wattage should be on a sticker on the side facing you when you open your case.

What CPU and motherboard do you have?


um... It was upgraded tho, so it wasnt relabled.

Pentium 4 with 3.00 ghz and P4SD-LA?
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a b U Graphics card
August 2, 2012 7:16:52 PM

nobodyslove said:
I have a Pent 4 processor with 3 gigs
also two sticks of memory.... its still a good desktop.


We need to know your specific motherboard. If it doesn't have a PCIe slot you won't be able to do too much with a video card. From the card you bought I assume you have an AGP slot, but if we don't know the motherboard we can't tell.

As for it being a good desktop...that may be. But if you want to play games like SWToR you'll need a faster CPU, in addition to a faster GPU.
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a b U Graphics card
August 2, 2012 7:17:48 PM

nobodyslove said:
um... It was upgraded tho, so it wasnt relabled.

Pentium 4 with 3.00 ghz and P4SD-LA?


What do you mean it was upgraded but not relabled? Upgrading the PSU means you pull out the old one and install a new one. The new one should have the sticker for it, not the old PSU.

As for that motherboard, well you'll be a bit stuck for upgrades. It only supports AGPx8, and doesn't support any PCIe video cards. There isn't much you'll be able to do with that system to get it running newer games.
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August 2, 2012 7:21:39 PM

trapper said:
We need to know your specific motherboard. If it doesn't have a PCIe slot you won't be able to do too much with a video card. From the card you bought I assume you have an AGP slot, but if we don't know the motherboard we can't tell.

As for it being a good desktop...that may be. But if you want to play games like SWToR you'll need a faster CPU, in addition to a faster GPU.



I know and I am really stupid when it comes to comps, i dont know where to look.

Man- ASUSTeK Comp inc
model- P4SD-LA
chipset- Intel i865p/pe/g/i848p

brand- American megatrends inc
version- 3.19
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a b U Graphics card
August 2, 2012 7:26:18 PM

nobodyslove said:
I know and I am really stupid when it comes to comps, i dont know where to look.

Man- ASUSTeK Comp inc
model- P4SD-LA
chipset- Intel i865p/pe/g/i848p

brand- American megatrends inc
version- 3.19


I posted just after you posted your answer, but didn't see your post before I hit submit. You gave me the info I need.

From my last post: As for that motherboard, well you'll be a bit stuck for upgrades. It only supports AGPx8, and doesn't support any PCIe video cards. There isn't much you'll be able to do with that system to get it running newer games.
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August 2, 2012 7:37:47 PM

trapper said:
I posted just after you posted your answer, but didn't see your post before I hit submit. You gave me the info I need.

From my last post: As for that motherboard, well you'll be a bit stuck for upgrades. It only supports AGPx8, and doesn't support any PCIe video cards. There isn't much you'll be able to do with that system to get it running newer games.



But dont understand... my tec sent my system info to SWToR and they said the only reason I couldnt play was I didnt have a 3x pixel shooter or something... My computer is running fine and it has the right everything to play these games....

Should I have never upgraded my computer to begin with? Did I just waste all that time and money?
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a b U Graphics card
August 2, 2012 7:44:10 PM

nobodyslove said:
But dont understand... my tec sent my system info to SWToR and they said the only reason I couldnt play was I didnt have a 3x pixel shooter or something... My computer is running fine and it has the right everything to play these games....

Should I have never upgraded my computer to begin with? Did I just waste all that time and money?


From the perspective of SWToR I hate to say it...but yes. Your CPU might be able to load the game, but your FPS will be 30 at most, probably averaging 10-15, dropping to 1-2 in main hubs. And thats on low settings on the low resolutions. Even with a new GPU the CPU will still hold you back from that game.

For the other games you listed you should be fine to get another, newer (but still many years old) AGP card. Those games aren't so demanding. But even then, any game newer than 3 years old will run like a snail.

Your best bet would be to find an ati 4650 or 4670 that use AGP. It won't run SWToR, but you'd be good to play spore, Battle for Middle Earth and the like. That is if you can't afford a new PC entirely.
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August 2, 2012 7:47:44 PM

trapper said:
From the perspective of SWToR I hate to say it...but yes. Your CPU might be able to load the game, but your FPS will be 30 at most, probably averaging 10-15, dropping to 1-2 in main hubs. And thats on low settings on the low resolutions. Even with a new GPU the CPU will still hold you back from that game.

For the other games you listed you should be fine to get another, newer (but still many years old) AGP card. Those games aren't so demanding. But even then, any game newer than 3 years old will run like a snail.

Your best bet would be to find an ati 4650 or 4670 that use AGP. It won't run SWToR, but you'd be good to play spore, Battle for Middle Earth and the like. That is if you can't afford a new PC entirely.



ah well, thank you for being honest.

So... what is AGP?
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a b U Graphics card
August 2, 2012 7:53:57 PM

You got seriously trolled by that computer tech.

AGP is a type of bus that your CPU uses to communicate with the graphics card. Modern PCs use PCIe, so you will have to hunt around for a card that actually supports AGP.
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August 2, 2012 7:57:24 PM

I don't thing our user understands that he is talking about a 8 year old PC that got "upgraded". And no, it doesn't have
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the right everything to play these games
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My troll senses tingle btw.
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a b U Graphics card
August 2, 2012 7:59:20 PM

alexapi32 said:

My troll senses tingle btw.


My sister, who now has my C2D and 3870 PC wouldn't even know what a CPU or GPU was. People need help with PCs, even if they don't know much about them.

Good luck Nobody, hope you can get playing soon.
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August 2, 2012 8:00:21 PM

alexapi32 said:
I don't thing our user understands that he is talking about a 8 year old PC that got "upgraded". And no, it doesn't have
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the right everything to play these games
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My troll senses tingle btw.



>.< ugh what should I do? Get my money back?
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a b U Graphics card
August 2, 2012 8:01:32 PM

nobodyslove said:
>.< ugh what should I do? Get my money back?


How much did the guy charge you for all the 'work' and parts?
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a b U Graphics card
August 2, 2012 8:07:32 PM

nobodyslove said:
I have a Pent 4 processor with 3 gigs
also two sticks of memory.... its still a good desktop.



its really not still a good desktop, time for a new machine
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a b U Graphics card
August 2, 2012 8:07:43 PM

Yup, a Pentium 4 rig is a dead end, its best to save up for a new computer.
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August 2, 2012 8:09:17 PM

trapper said:
How much did the guy charge you for all the 'work' and parts?



like six hundred bucks....
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a b U Graphics card
August 2, 2012 8:09:20 PM

nobodyslove said:
>.< ugh what should I do? Get my money back?

Give the place bad reviews online.
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a b U Graphics card
August 2, 2012 8:15:57 PM

nobodyslove said:
like six hundred bucks....


You need to go in a talk to them. You could have bought a new PC for that price that would have done all you wanted and more.

Is it a small local shop? Or a big chain? Either way...the price charged is ridiculous.
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August 2, 2012 8:17:18 PM

fb39ca4 said:
Give the place bad reviews online.



Thats easy, it was Staples EasyTech
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a b U Graphics card
August 2, 2012 8:18:50 PM

nobodyslove said:
like six hundred bucks....

:o 
I would complain to the upper management about this now.
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a b U Graphics card
August 2, 2012 8:39:47 PM

Get your money back! Once this mission is acomplished, several of us here can help get you started on building your own rig. You would`ve been better off to just buy a prebuilt anything. That is obviously still a real option.
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August 2, 2012 8:47:01 PM

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Get your money back! Once this mission is acomplished, several of us here can help get you started on building your own rig. You would`ve been better off to just buy a prebuilt anything. That is obviously still a real option.



I most certainly will get my money back. I wish one of you could go with me to really insult the troll.... but I guess I am alone on that.

But thank you all. I shall ...hopefully...return with good news and some bucks to make a decent gaming comp.
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a b U Graphics card
August 2, 2012 8:49:34 PM

nobodyslove said:
like six hundred bucks....


If this is true ($600 for an ATI 9250 and a PSU upgrade to run the 9250), then I say the tech guy is the biggest of the small crooks in the world.

For around $650, you can have online retailers build a new low-end gaming PC for you that includes a 1 year warranty. Typically the PC will include a core i3 2120 3.3 Ghz CPU (a gazillion times better than a pentium 4) and a GTX 550 Ti 1GB video card (another gazillion times better than a 9250) and a Corsair 650W TXV2 power supply (I am willing to guess this PSU is also a gazillion times better than the one the tech guy sold u).
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a b U Graphics card
August 2, 2012 9:05:41 PM

Just read through this thread, I pray to god you are trolling us! $600 for a 9250 and a psu? what?

Make sure you get every last cent back, I wouldnt be satisfied until the guy ate the graphics card and the psu infront of me. You got short changed about $590.

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August 3, 2012 5:35:11 PM

paddys09 said:
Just read through this thread, I pray to god you are trolling us! $600 for a 9250 and a psu? what?

Make sure you get every last cent back, I wouldnt be satisfied until the guy ate the graphics card and the psu infront of me. You got short changed about $590.


im not trolling.... and he also gave me a stick of memory, which i see is only 512 mbs but he charged me for a gb.
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a b U Graphics card
August 3, 2012 6:51:55 PM

Then seriously, make sure you get all your money back, thats shocking. Half a gb of ram is worth nothing these days so my comment still stands.

Have you spoken to them yet?
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August 4, 2012 4:52:18 AM

paddys09 said:
Then seriously, make sure you get all your money back, thats shocking. Half a gb of ram is worth nothing these days so my comment still stands.

Have you spoken to them yet?



I have and they want to give me a steep dicount on one of their desktops. Sice its Staples they cant "return" the items.
But they do not have what i want. Suggestions?
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a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 5:04:07 AM

nobodyslove said:
I have and they want to give me a steep dicount on one of their desktops. Sice its Staples they cant "return" the items.
But they do not have what i want. Suggestions?


So they admitted that someone screwed up? Thats good to hear at least. But no money back, just a trade towards a new PC?
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August 4, 2012 5:30:34 AM

trapper said:
So they admitted that someone screwed up? Thats good to hear at least. But no money back, just a trade towards a new PC?



yep, basicily. my computer is slowly getting worse to... it wont install my games. But I will be deleting them soon enough as I am getting a new comp. But not from them.
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a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 5:59:03 AM

Glad to hear that man, just sucks that you had to go thru all that.
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a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 6:47:57 AM

nobodyslove said:
I have and they want to give me a steep dicount on one of their desktops. Sice its Staples they cant "return" the items.
But they do not have what i want. Suggestions?



Im not from the US, so don't know the ins and outs of the law where you live, where I am from the UK, we have the a government body known as 'Trading Standards' and laws preventing things like this from happening. If you got the opportunity to explain this infront of a judge, your guaranteed to walk away with your money, Im sure there is something similar in the US.

Don't roll over speak to a solicitor/lawyer.

They are a big company, they are not going to take the risk of damaging their name, you just need to apply pressure!
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