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September 22, 2012 6:52:03 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: Within the next month or so

Budget Range: $1000-1500, possibly more if needed

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Surfing the web while running several programs, some website design, graphic design, watching movies/tv, no gaming

Are you buying a monitor: Maybe down the road, but that isn't included in the budget.

Parts to Upgrade: Everything

Do you need to buy OS: Yes, some version of Windows professional most likely.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg, but I am open to others.

Location: Twin Cities, MN

Parts Preferences: I was thinking of running intel, I've heard good things about the Intel Core i5 3.4GHz Quad-Core, I'd like a SSD, will also have a 1tb drive for storage , 16gb or ram, Video card doesn't need to be crazy since there will be no gaming but I currently run 2 monitors and will upgrade them eventually. Also I picked out a case, it might be over the top but seemed like a nice one and I like my stuff to look nice. I'll leave the rest up to the experts, as I know very little when it comes to computer internals compatibility.

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0, Black Interior and Four Fans-1x 230mm front RED LED fan, 1x 140mm rear fan, 1x 230mm top fan, and 1x 230mm side fan

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920 x 1080

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: My current computer is an outdated dell dimensions E510 about 7 years old now, I have kept it going threw the years but it is time for something fast and new. I am starting a few online companies and find myself spending a lot more time on the computer, and need something very fast and reliable. I wont be gaming, never really have and don't plan to. However, I often am running 10+ programs and have dozens of internet tabs open surfing the internet. I'm sure I need more than a bunch of ram to do that well.

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September 22, 2012 7:31:54 PM
September 22, 2012 7:56:51 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($61.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 480 1.5GB Video Card ($179.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.98 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (64-bit) ($130.20 @ Amazon)
Total: $1217.06
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-22 15:57 EDT-0400)
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September 22, 2012 11:19:05 PM

What does everyone think of this? I took some ideas from both builds that were suggested and read a lot of reviews on things. I may still consider switching down to a mid tower case anyone have other ideas on a good looking one with a fair amount of cooling ability?

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($78.24 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.98 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 6670 1GB Video Card ($82.40 @ NCIX US)

Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($83.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($91.09
@ Amazon)

Total: $1196.65
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-22 19:13 EDT-0400)
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September 23, 2012 4:22:19 AM

the 6670 is fine for basic stuff, but NOT fr any serious graphic design work
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September 23, 2012 6:37:09 AM

You live in the same city where a microcenter is located (Twin Cities) so you should be doing your shopping there in order to save some major $$$.
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September 24, 2012 1:55:38 AM

Okay, I'll be checking prices at microcenter for sure to try and save some money. As for the video card, my current one is very out of date and for the most part I can do what I need to right now with it. I plan to get into some more advanced graphic design eventually, but that could be years away still. Do you think I need the better card now, or would it be better to just wait until I am going to fully use it and buy something then with how fast things seem to get out of date?

Current card specs below...

ATi Radeon X600 chipset
PCI Express x16 interface
256 MB DDR Memory
400 MHz RAMDAC
128-bit Memory Bus
2048 x 1536 @ 85 Hz resolutions
SmartShader 2.0
SmoothVision 2.1
Hyper Z II
VideoShader
HydraVision dual display support
Full DirectX 9.0 and openGL 2.0 support

Also, I'm not sure if I am going to need a CPU cooler for this setup or not... I do plan on staying with a case that has good cooling like 5+ fans.

Thanks for everyone's help so far!
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September 24, 2012 8:53:41 AM

If your current GPU is adequate for your current needs, I don't see a lot of point getting another low powered one, and then replacing it in the near future. It all comes down to timescale. If putting in a mid-range card now, is going to give you a bit extra, to last you longer, til you have to get something high powered, then fair enough. It has to be said, though, you're not going to reap the full benefit of new system, until it has a "worthy" graphics card. The GPU is always going to be the bottleneck, of virtually everything you do.
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September 25, 2012 1:05:21 PM

Okay, I changed some other things to bring the price down to leave some room for a better GPU.

Unfortunately, I can't get my E510 to boot fully and I am tired of trying to fix it so I need to get parts ordered today/tomorrow so I can put the computer together this weekend and get caught up on my work! Eventually I will fix the E510, but not this week.

I've changed the build a bit as you can see below, I want to put a better GPU in (2 actually) hoping that one can be a cheaper card and the other something fairly high end? Maybe the GTX 480 + something else? Only reason for running 2 is that I would like to run 3 monitors now, most likely 21-22" as that will fit my desk best. Any advice on a good graphics card combo and monitors? I don't have a problem with refurb monitors, will need 3 so that will help keep the price down a bit. I'd like to get everything under $1500 now including the monitors so I can be building by the weekend.

I think I have the rest figured out other than the GPU, that said you are all much smarter with this than me so feel free to correct my build if needed.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iuFY
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iuFY/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iuFY/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($95.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 480 1.5GB Video Card ($179.99 @ NCIX US)

Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case ($93.89 @ Amazon)

Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($84.98 @ Newegg)

Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($90.73 @ Amazon)

Total: $1161.53
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September 25, 2012 1:26:25 PM

minimatt3535 said:
Okay, I changed some other things to bring the price down to leave some room for a better GPU.

Unfortunately, I can't get my E510 to boot fully and I am tired of trying to fix it so I need to get parts ordered today/tomorrow so I can put the computer together this weekend and get caught up on my work! Eventually I will fix the E510, but not this week.

I've changed the build a bit as you can see below, I want to put a better GPU in (2 actually) hoping that one can be a cheaper card and the other something fairly high end? Maybe the GTX 480 + something else? Only reason for running 2 is that I would like to run 3 monitors now, most likely 21-22" as that will fit my desk best. Any advice on a good graphics card combo and monitors? I don't have a problem with refurb monitors, will need 3 so that will help keep the price down a bit. I'd like to get everything under $1500 now including the monitors so I can be building by the weekend.

I think I have the rest figured out other than the GPU, that said you are all much smarter with this than me so feel free to correct my build if needed.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iuFY
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iuFY/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iuFY/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($95.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 480 1.5GB Video Card ($179.99 @ NCIX US)

Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case ($93.89 @ Amazon)

Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($84.98 @ Newegg)

Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($90.73 @ Amazon)

Total: $1161.53

I already posted on here once about you living in Twin cities and microcenter. You get $50 off that board when you bundle it with the 3770K. Also that 480 is on old school power hungry heat producing hog.

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September 25, 2012 1:30:49 PM

I do plan on going to microcenter, I was there yesterday actually checking out cases :)  . What is your advise on GPU? I did read several people saying that the 480 ran way hot, which is the biggest reason that I didn't want to use it.
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September 25, 2012 1:55:00 PM

minimatt3535 said:
I do plan on going to microcenter, I was there yesterday actually checking out cases :)  . What is your advise on GPU? I did read several people saying that the 480 ran way hot, which is the biggest reason that I didn't want to use it.

http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?N... <------ Ivy Bridge cpu's

http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?N... <---- bundle a board w/cpu to save $50 off the board (walk in only).

http://www.microcenter.com/product/391067/SDSSDP-128G-G...(SSD) $79.99
SanDisk SDSSDP-128G-G25 128GB SATA 6.0Gb/s 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive SSD)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $79.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9Q-16GAO
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September 25, 2012 3:09:24 PM

I went with the 3770k to get the combo discount, also I like the Ares ram better, I'll be able to fit a cooler in better with that. I've never been a huge fan of SanDisk stuff, but I'll look into that.

Any thoughts for GPU, or monitors?
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September 25, 2012 3:20:32 PM

minimatt3535 said:
I went with the 3770k to get the combo discount, also I like the Ares ram better, I'll be able to fit a cooler in better with that. I've never been a huge fan of SanDisk stuff, but I'll look into that.

Any thoughts for GPU, or monitors?

That Sandisk SSD utilizes SF Toggle NAND is and is solid although microcenter has a lot of decent deals on SSD's. Also look at the Samsung SSD's on there.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $54.99 $10 off w/ promo code CollegeSave10, limited offer
Antec NEO ECO 520C 520W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply


http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E... <---- for your resolution here's some 3GB cards to have a look at.
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September 25, 2012 3:32:15 PM

only reason I suggested the 480 was that unlike the 5xx and 6xx series, it doesn't have a crippled CUDA processing, since you were doing a lot of graphics work.
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September 25, 2012 4:14:12 PM

You can just get a 7850 2gb for your build since you're on 2 monitors.
Fairly cheap, decent performance.
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September 25, 2012 4:29:02 PM

excella1221 said:
You can just get a 7850 2gb for your build since you're on 2 monitors.
Fairly cheap, decent performance.

It depends on what progies he uses. Some proggies benefit with Nvidia's CUDA and PhysX.
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September 25, 2012 4:34:39 PM

I do very little graphics work now, and not sure when I will get into doing more... but it could be a long ways down the road.

Also I plan to run 3 monitors now, which I assume wont work with the 7850?
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September 25, 2012 5:29:12 PM

There is always a way to run three monitors, from one graphics card. It's easiest if GPU's got two DVI ports. That takes care of two. The third can go in mini-display port, or even HDMI. If card hasn't got 2x DVI, but has Display port 1.2, you can connect 2 monitors to that, provided one of them also has DP1.2. If you've got modern monitors, with several different types of connection, there's a way round it.
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September 25, 2012 5:33:51 PM

PS On graphics card, always check if your software recommends something in particular. You may well find GTX570 is a recommended option. If you don't want gaming, you may find a modest Quadro is the way to go, it doesn't have to be a riduculously expensive one.
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September 26, 2012 5:52:52 AM

Okay, spent a long time getting everything just the way I want it! Only additional thing I will need is a couple adapters for the monitors. Kinda got on the higher end of what I wanted it to be, but I hopefully can make it last for 5+ years.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/izME
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/izME/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/izME/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Coole

Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard

Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk

Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card

Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case

Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply

Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit)

The graphics card is way more than I will ever need, but in 5 years it will still be enough. I might even get into some gaming with a setup like this and use it :) 

Thanks for the help on all of this! I actually learned an insane amount, and could not have put together something like this without the knowledge.
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September 26, 2012 7:50:13 AM

Everything should be compatible.
Although a 3gb card like the 7950 might be a better investment for 3 monitors.
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September 26, 2012 11:14:13 AM

I was strongly considering going to a 3gb, but It's just going to be to much money for me.
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September 26, 2012 11:58:05 AM

The 7870 would do fine for now then. You can always just upgrade when you've saved up money. :) 
Also, just a little suggestion: Get a (2x8gb) RAM kit. More space, and leaves room for future upgrades.
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September 26, 2012 12:27:57 PM

I really hope I don't need more than 16gb for a while, I'm only running windows 7 home premium as well so 16 is the max.
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September 26, 2012 12:46:02 PM

I'm sure you won't need more for a long time. I just find it more convenient two only have 2 sticks. :p 
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