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September 22, 2012 11:58:15 PM

Hello,
I am building a computer soon and I really have no budget but I would like to stay around $3000.

What I would be using it for from most to least: gaming while recording, heavy video editing, web browsing, email.

When: near black friday

Where: Florida, USA

Budget: $3000 or more

Thank you for help

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September 23, 2012 12:20:55 AM

You'll be hard pressed to spend that much unless you go something crazy like 4 way CF/SLI. How much storage space do you need? Can you run only SSDs or do you need the massive storage that mechanical HDDs can store? Lastly flashy or elegant case? Lastly do you do anything special with sound that you'd need a sound card?
a b 4 Gaming
September 23, 2012 12:31:07 AM

here you go
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/if51

you definitly dont need a huge budget to get max settings. also while you are on it, get a 3d display to get the most experience out of the video cards
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September 23, 2012 12:40:29 AM

Well here's a complete overkill system. Keep in mind their are tons of ways to lower the price. With heavy video editing I put in a ton of memory one of the best CPU and a huge amount of SSD storage. Along with one of (if not the) most elegant cases out there.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/if7R
Keep in mind I could easily be more practical and add a regular HDD one less GPU a cheaper case, motherboard, memory and CPU. That would put it right around $2800 (if not less).
a c 245 4 Gaming
September 23, 2012 12:42:28 AM

Here's what I would get:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($198.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Plextor PX-M3S Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($241.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 1050W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($211.82 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS224-06 DVD/CD Writer ($27.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (64-bit) ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2468.19
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-22 19:39 EDT-0400)
a b 4 Gaming
September 23, 2012 12:57:46 AM

andrewcarr said:
Well here's a complete overkill system. Keep in mind their are tons of ways to lower the price. With heavy video editing I put in a ton of memory one of the best CPU and a huge amount of SSD storage. Along with one of (if not the) most elegant cases out there.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/if7R
Keep in mind I could easily be more practical and add a regular HDD one less GPU a cheaper case, motherboard, memory and CPU. That would put it right around $2800 (if not less).
Warning: This part list has potential issues/incompatibilities. :o 
SeaSonic Platinum 1000W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply may not provide sufficient wattage. The estimated part list maximum power draw is 1036W.
September 23, 2012 1:00:10 AM

You know that's BS as well as I do 1000W is more than enough for that.
If you don't believe me put it in this website.
http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
From them the wattage usage is estimated to be 774 (minimum and 824 recommended) so theirs even plenty of headroom to OC.
a b 4 Gaming
September 23, 2012 1:03:10 AM

andrewcarr said:
You know that's BS as well as I do 1000W is more than enough for that.
If you don't believe me put it in this website.
http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
:lol:  i know i was just poking fun at you sorry!OP i was kidding around being a jerk it's more than enough.
September 23, 2012 1:05:17 AM

Okay good I thought you may be... "special" there for a moment.
September 23, 2012 2:11:33 AM

Thanks for all of the help. In this build I want the best of the best. I would want a ssd for OS and other important things and maybe a 1T hdd on raid for pics and other stuff like that. Sound is not a big deal for me but I would want good sound. I don't really know that much about AMD so could we stick with nvidia please? I might be overclocking but I'm still not sure. Should I go with x79 or z77, the x79 is a bit old but still good I don't want to spend all of this money then intel releases a new processor better than mine :p .
September 23, 2012 2:14:10 AM

I might go with sli or a gtx 690. And a eleganant case that is not to flashy I want to be able to sleep
September 23, 2012 2:23:15 AM

Do a sli 690 and a intel, then skimp ona 8gb ram JK!

andrews build looks amazing x3 6850's outrun a 6990

6990>7970

And the 7970 IS MUCH BETTER THAN THE 6850

so imagine what 3 7970s are

And also the amd graphics generally are better than the nvidia alternative PLUS they use 2/5 of the wattage

Also nvidia fanboys throw "690" > 7970 = 130% better

Well you know what the 7990 hasnt released yet and the 690's counterpart is the 7990, and remember the 6990 had the world record for quite some time, imagine what the 7990 'll do.
September 23, 2012 2:23:20 AM

Here's my more reasonably but still amazing build.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ifFY
BTW the AMD cards are just great (NVidia can't touch them for price vs performance). But if you really wanted you could switch the 7970 for 670 :( .
September 23, 2012 3:50:40 AM

Still thought, the benefits per cost just isn't worth it. Secondly they are unnecessary in every way for a home PC. Only recommend things you'd be willing to buy and something tells me you wouldn't be willing to get one of those. I know I wouldn't get that thing any time soon.
September 23, 2012 4:34:07 AM

I'm fine with amd I just don't know there cards
September 23, 2012 4:34:50 AM

I really like Andrews build
September 23, 2012 4:38:30 AM

What FPS would the Radeon HD 7970 triple crossfire get on BF3... and minecraft :p 
a b 4 Gaming
September 23, 2012 4:40:06 AM

Robert751 said:
Thanks for all of the help. In this build I want the best of the best. I would want a ssd for OS and other important things and maybe a 1T hdd on raid for pics and other stuff like that. Sound is not a big deal for me but I would want good sound. I don't really know that much about AMD so could we stick with nvidia please? I might be overclocking but I'm still not sure. Should I go with x79 or z77, the x79 is a bit old but still good I don't want to spend all of this money then intel releases a new processor better than mine :p .
:lol:  bro you don't have to say please if you rather stick with nvidia so be it end of story you do realize it's your money so do what you want ;) 
September 23, 2012 4:41:57 AM

Thank you. Which one? The performance to cost of the second is outstanding. Should handle any game (in fact in order to take advantage of the power I recommend a triple monitor setup) and with the heavy video editing you'll have a hard time beating the 6 core CPU paired with the fast memory. Not to mention the massive SSD. Although adding a fast 1Tb mechanical drive isn't a bad idea either.
September 23, 2012 4:50:42 AM

lol what FPS in those games. You could max out every setting and hit the FPS limit. As I said before though look at making a three monitor setup to take advantage of the GPU power. Then you'll be lowered down into the ~80 FPS range per monitor.
Depending on size of monitor look at these. I'd recommend the 23'' ones because their a great price and the size is more than big enough. Also this series has only a small area around the screen to help the image fit together better when gaming.
23'' http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
23.6'' http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
24'' http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'd actually recommend staying away from 27'' monitors. Up close I just find them too big.

Also the on board sound on the motherboard I chose is excellent and you shouldn't need anything better. But you will need speakers if you don't already have a good set.

As I previously mentioned you can switch the GPU out for three 670 if you feel more comfortable with them. I just think the 7970 is a better card for about the same price.
September 23, 2012 4:59:14 AM

Here I actually found some benchmarks for three way CF 7970. At 1920 x 1200 (so slightly higher than 1920 x 1080.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/07/18/pci_express_2...
Here is another
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/4517/sapphire_radeon_...
Keep in mind this is before the most recent drivers were released that boosted performance of the 7970 a ton.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7970-ghz-...
And even that's only beta 12.7 now they have 12.8 released.

A bonus with the sapphire card I listed is it comes with all the adapters needed to connect three monitors.
a c 245 4 Gaming
September 23, 2012 5:08:37 AM

mastrom101 said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ifcM

You want a good motherboard, CF GPU's, 16 gigs of RAM, and a fast CPU

Can you explain more about the build?


You're $1K over budget and using a lot of expensive parts that aren't worth the money being charged for them.
September 23, 2012 5:09:08 AM

About how much power will this thing suck up?
September 23, 2012 5:10:27 AM

What cooler should I use for the i7-3730k?
September 23, 2012 5:25:21 AM

I'd get the Noctua I listed it is the best air cooler on the market.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/LGA-2011-i7-3960X-A...
The winner is.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/LGA-2011-i7-3960X-A...
Feel free to read the entire article if you don't believe me.

As for power consumption it will need the 1000W PSU I listed but at least that one is one of the most efficient PSU on the market. You will only manage to use that much power, rarely in games and mainly running stress tests/benchmarks.
September 23, 2012 5:26:52 AM

g-unit1111 said:
You're $1K over budget and using a lot of expensive parts that aren't worth the money being charged for them.

I got to ask if your talking about the same thread? He's at 2k when the OP asked for one around 3k. I admit my first build was complete overkill (and I said that right away) but second was right on target.
September 23, 2012 1:33:12 PM

Will that cooler be good enough for overclocking to maybe 5 ghz on the 3930k?
a b 4 Gaming
September 23, 2012 1:39:28 PM

nothing will unless you are doing custom loops. you wont see much of a difference in performance when you compare 4.5ghz and 5ghz
September 23, 2012 4:54:48 PM

I'm guessing you need monitors, but I do not know since you did not follow this- http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/353572-31-build-upgra...

But I'll try to help you anyways.

First you want to find a good monitor(s) to build your rig around. Why have 3 7970's when you are only playing at 1080p (LOL).
These Dell UltraSharp monitors are great. The picture quality is perfect (no bleeding), and the input lag is minimal compared to TN monitors.
Dell U2412m- http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c... x3=900$ 3 monitors for nVidia Surround or AMD Eyefinity. This will give you a great gaming experience due to the huge resolution it will produce (5760x1200!!!!)

Intel i7 3770k- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 330$ For gaming, Ivy Bridge is better than X79 due to games' inability to take advantage of all 6 cores

Asrock Z77 WS- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 300$ This board is great because it can run high end GPU setups.

Patriot Viper 3 16gb 1600mhz- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 80$ Overkill yes, but ram is cheap and the more the better.

EVGA GTX 690- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 1000$ The 690 is a vast improvement over the 590 in scaling and it is way more practical now. Though, there is not much of a route to upgrade unless you want to shell out another 800$ in the future. 2 670 4gb or 2 7970 3gb are two other good options.

Silverstone Heligon HE01 CPU Cooler- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 75$ I've always been a fan of Silverstone products because they are always such high quality.

Cooler Master Storm Trooper- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 149$

Asus DVD Burner- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 20$

Lepa G850 850w- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 135$ This unfortunately will not handle 2 690's. you would need about a 1000w psu to do that.

WD Black 1tb HDD- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 110$

Samsung 830 256gb SSD- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 200$

Total= 2999$
September 24, 2012 12:38:55 AM
a b 4 Gaming
September 24, 2012 1:34:31 AM



Want my honest opinion?
It's not a good build.

16GB of RAM is enough.
680's are a waste when 670's are $100 less.
D-14 is better than H100
Your PSU is extremely overkill and wayyyyy overpriced.
I would go with a 3770K as it will perform better in games but that's you choice.

What is it that your editing that requires a 3930K and 32GB of RAM?


I would bump this build down to a 3770K, d-14, a 850 watt PSU if you really want to do a tri-sli in the future, 670's and 16GB of RAM and then use your money to buy a third monitor or put it towards your next build.
a b 4 Gaming
September 24, 2012 1:58:11 AM

750w is enough for SLI 670s
September 25, 2012 1:56:53 AM

I am going with 32 gigs of ram so I can host my friends minecraft server and I want this computer to be as futer proof as posable. I will be editing gameplay from mw2 and mw3 and it's for minesweeper :p  . I was going to go with the 690 but since it has the same chip in it as the 680 but clocked a little lower I went with the 680 on sli because in therory it should be faster, if I where to use the 670 it would be the same price to get one with the same speeds of the 680. In the future I will add another video card so that's why the psu has a high wattage.
a b 4 Gaming
September 25, 2012 2:02:00 AM

lol

1: minecraft is nothing near demanding
2: 32gb of ram of ram is overkill even for rendering hd
3:mw3 is not demanding
4: 680s are a waste of money when a 670 can perform the same for 100 dollars less
5: you cant do triple sli on z77 without a special board. 2 way is easily done with a 750w psu

futureproofing is impossible. quit trying
September 25, 2012 2:03:07 AM

O and the reason I'm not using air cooling is because I thought that the heats inks on the air coolers looked so ugly :p . willl the H100 fit the case if not what case will if fit it?
a b 4 Gaming
September 25, 2012 2:10:38 AM

it will but no. the d14 is a much better solution compared to a h100. not only is it quieter, but a hell of alot cheaper. for a h100, you basically have to use aftermarket fans given the stock ones are jet engines. the final cost you invest in a h100 would be around double the cost of a d14 while performing around the same.


if you want some asthetics, check this out


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

the black one costs 10 bucks more




now onto your build

1: h100 is not worth it
2: vertex 4 is faster and better than hyperx 3k
3: i can find WD blacks for cheaper. but i recommend seagates as they are faster
4: raid 0 has zero noticeable performance boost other than in benchmarks and heavy operations
5:as i said, 680s are not worth it
6: the phantom 410 would be a better option as you dont need the space
7: no need for 1250w since you cant use it
8:cheaper ram out there
9: you dont need x79 to play cod
September 25, 2012 4:18:31 AM

That Phanteks air cooler is what i consider to be second best, so still a good buy if "aesthetics" are that important to you.
a b 4 Gaming
September 25, 2012 10:46:10 AM

the phanteks is like 2c better depending on the situation given it has 5 bigger heatpipes rather than 6 smaller ones
a b 4 Gaming
September 25, 2012 11:37:56 AM

@TheBigTroll come help me man this noob is giving this member on this thread bad advice suggesting unbalanced builds and sniper motherboard with 700W coolermaster PSU for a 640 or 650 card lol and all kinds of other bad advice for the person needs http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum2.php?config=tom... and the guy is about to buy
September 25, 2012 12:15:02 PM

So I should go with the 670? Now that I hink of it the h100 is a bit of a waste, so I will go with air cooling ( and I don't want a tube to leak and have 3500 go down the drain). What do you think is a reasonable overclocking speed for the 3930k?
a b 4 Gaming
September 25, 2012 12:23:21 PM

id still suggest a i7 3770k over the 3930k.
September 26, 2012 12:43:18 AM

So will the h100 fit in my case if not I might go with air cooling.
a b 4 Gaming
September 26, 2012 1:29:51 AM

yes but why go with "fisher price watercooling?" (took that from bigcyco)
a b 4 Gaming
September 26, 2012 2:21:55 AM

@TheBigTroll lmao!OP don't buy H-100 not worth it's price also has a high risk of failure here just a couple sources to get my point across:
Source 1 -- http://www.guru3d.com/news/corsair-has-bad-batch-of-h10...


Source 2 -- http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99472


Source 3 -- http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99361 temperatures, the NH-D14 and H100 preform almost the same, except that the NH-D14 is much more quiet.The H-100 has to have it's loud stock fans on high to barley beat the NH-D14 by 4c that's not worth $30.00 more for they are terrible cooling/value, it's sad that consumers see "Water-cooling" (IMO this is " fisher price fake" water cooling in that it's all in a closed loop) and they think it'll cool the best. However the temps speak for itself, a $75.00 air cooler can practically cool within a margin of error , if not beat, a $110 closed-loop WC solution with the dBA being similar. ain't that Sad. Anyway i would suggest (the NH-D14 or Thermalright Silver Arrow)



And "here's you a review" with noise levels and cooling performance compared to the Silver Arrow, one of the coolers i recommended.


http://www.anandtech.com/show/5054/corsair-hydro-series...


Notice how the H100 only beats the Silver Arrow by 1.2 degrees when on max, and 1 degree when on medium, which is basically just bumping into limitations of any cooling system that's not sub-ambient. Looking at the overclocked results when such a limitation isn't present, the H100's lead expands to 1.3 degrees on max, only ties it on medium.


Now look at this noise chart.


http://www.anandtech.com/show/5054/corsair-hydro-series...


Notice how the Silver Arrow is significantly quieter than the H100 unless you set the H100 to its lowest setting. The Silver Arrow is a whopping 4.6c cooler than the H100 on low, and the H100's lead in noise is only 1.3 dB. On medium it's 5 dB louder (which only tied the Silver Arrow in cooling), and remember dB is a logarithmic scale, 5 dB is not a small difference. On max, the only setting that beat the Silver Arrow in cooling, it's an astounding 9.3 dB louder. That's nearly ten times as loud.


I stand by my statement and have provided you proof. The H100 is louder and more expensive than top of the line air coolers and can only outperform them when it's producing much more noise. Nearly ten times as much noise, to be precise. If you are strictly considering budget and performance, the Corsair units are far and away a pointless investment compared to air cooling solutions that perform on-par for less money.


This is the main point i been trying to make about these fisher price watercoolig loops.It's misguided misconceptions like these as to why so many people don't understand watercooling in the first place. A Rasa 240 RS kit starts at about $20 more than the H100 and will beat it hands down any day of the week. I'm not sure where you are shopping but H-100 retail @ $109.99 take into account replacing those loud fans and it's going to end up costing you as much as 240 RS kit.Bottom line... Phanteks
Thermalright Silver Arrow
Noc DH-14
all preform just as well as the H-100 and cost a good chunk of coin less.



XSPC Rasa 240 for $129 You either choose a good air cooler that will provide the same cooling ability or step it up to real watercooling, based on misguided misconceptions , you buy a LCS Corsair/Antec unit to say you 'watercool' but don't get any better results than air cooling,that's retarded think about it.
a b 4 Gaming
September 26, 2012 2:25:49 AM

or you can get a rasa 360 kit but then you need something with support for a 360 rad

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12222/ex-wat-162/XSPC...

id actually stick with a noctua over a silver arrow for air cooling given the 120mm lets you put ram under it unlike the silver arrow. you need really low profile sticks for the silver arrow
a b 4 Gaming
September 26, 2012 3:06:41 AM

TheBigTroll said:
or you can get a rasa 360 kit but then you need something with support for a 360 rad

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12222/ex-wat-162/XSPC...

id actually stick with a noctua over a silver arrow for air cooling given the 120mm lets you put ram under it unlike the silver arrow. you need really low profile sticks for the silver arrow
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