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Wanting to upgrade my PC for more fps but I dont know what to upgrade

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September 23, 2012 12:48:03 AM

I'm playing games like Hawken and planet side 2 and in planet side i get max aorund 40 fps which isnt good enough for me at all. Hawken i get around 50.

Here are my specs.

It has a 5850 amd graphics card (overclocked)
4 gig ram domintor (overlocked)
6 core amd phenom (overlocked)

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Windows 7 Home Premium (x64) Service Pack 1 (build 7601)
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September 23, 2012 1:19:34 AM

ok thank you for the reply! quick question.

Im pretty sure my grahics card is overclocked. If I replaced it with the new graphics card will it mess it up? do I have to go in the bios or something to downclock the graphics card? I dunno how to do that im really bad with hardware and ocing.
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September 23, 2012 1:28:09 AM

No, when you swap in a new graphics card, it will just set itself to its own stock speed. No need for you to manually reset anything.

Heres a good overclocking tutorial if you are interested in overclocking this card (which I recommend, the HD7800 series are good overclockers).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA_l5-HDel4
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September 23, 2012 1:34:02 AM

k awesome thank you
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September 27, 2012 4:33:42 AM

will my motherboard and gpu bottle neck the card tho? would it be best to just get a new mobo?
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September 27, 2012 5:35:37 AM

Pretty much every motherboard chipset on the market has a 16x PCI-E slot as standard (including your board), so if you plug into that there wont be a problem with motherboard bottle-necking. Its usually the top PCI-E slot.

I doubt a Hex-Core Phenom II would bottleneck graphical performance.
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September 27, 2012 5:51:02 AM

So if I get like a gtx 580 and 8 gigs of ram and a SSD I should get a ton of fps gain?

3.5 hexcore.

700 watt psu
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September 27, 2012 6:02:37 AM

For the price of a GTX580, the GTX670 is a much better option.
But yes, getting a modern card of that caliber will be a big improvement over the HD5850 you have.

An SSD wont really improve FPS, but will decrease the load times of any games installed to it. SSD's are more useful for general Windows operation and boot times.

More RAM also doesn't necessarily equal more performance, rather the lack of it degrades performance. 8GB is plenty for a gaming rig.
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September 27, 2012 6:17:59 AM

ok well im playing planet side 2 and its like completly unplayable. in a big battle i get 6-12 fps and it stutters constantly.....

it makes me wonder if its my cpu since people say they can play the game on max with a 5850 here.

http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/ha...

sooo 670x 8 gigs ram 1600 and what mobo and processor would be best?
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September 27, 2012 6:24:17 AM

Then the bottleneck must be elsewhere, because a Phenom II and a GTX580 is plenty for gaming.

The motherboard you have supports a PCI-2 16x slot, so you aren't being bottle-necked by PCI bandwidth.
8GB of RAM is more than enough for gaming, there are even arguments you don't need more than 4GB.
700W (assuming it can actually output that) is plenty for a single card and an AMD chip.

Might be a software problem, not sure. You downloaded all the drivers for the card? Running a lot of anti-virus' is a good way to kill performance.

Even if the game is CPU intensive over GPU intensive, I dont see how your current CPU would be a bottleneck. Despite its age it is still a decent chip, especially compared to recent AMD offerings.
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September 27, 2012 7:22:51 AM

well the game is in beta and they say its not optimized for amd..... but yeah i dunno. I play hakwen and it also stutters.

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and what gpu and mobo should i getin the future?
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September 27, 2012 7:28:53 AM

The GTX580 is still a good card by today's standards, not much need to change that. Though if you were going to, I would wait until the Radeon HD8000 or the GTX700 before doing so, otherwise the performance jump wouldnt really be worth the cost.

Unless you have faith that the Piledriver CPU's are going to be a massive step forwards, best off switching to Intel. I would wait until mid-next year when the Haswell CPU's release on the LGA1150 platform. Cant give much more info then that as nothing has been confirmed yet.

Quite simply, what you have now should be fine. Dont know why you aren't getting good performance.
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October 4, 2012 1:37:33 AM

I actually figured out what the problem was. none of my stuff is over clocked and to fix the stuttering i had was turning off my anti virus.......... lol........... but yeah im gunna save my money and wait for sure thanks a ton man your the ***.
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October 4, 2012 1:37:35 AM

Best answer selected by psychostoner.
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