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September 23, 2012 8:20:50 AM

Hi all! This is my first build, I would REALLY appreciate your help. :) 
Primary purpose is to play games (dota2, d3, sc2)
Eventually I would like to upgrade: add a SSD


http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ihfr


CPU Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor

Motherboard ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard

Memory G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

Storage Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

Video Card XFX Radeon HD 6770 1GB Video Card

Case Xion XON-160PCB ATX Mid Tower Case w/500W Power Supply

Monitor Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor


I already bought the motherboard, memory, and HD on sale so those items are set in stone.
The rest I have not purchased yet. Budget is ~750

1. With this build, what games will this be able to run? Would I be able to play dota2, d3, and sc2 on very high or ultra?

2. The CASE is a large concern. I chose it because it came with a power supply. I know the ratings say that it is very loud, but noise is not a concern. Will there be any drawbacks to this case besides the noisy psu (limitations of the given connectors)? Will the psu be able to power this graphics card?

3. If I had another 50-100 dollars to spend, what would be best to change?




September 23, 2012 9:10:20 AM

DON'T buy a case with a built in power supply. There are one or two exceptions, but they are almost universally c**p. Thet tend to use really cheap Chinese power supplies, that are likely to fail, just out of warranty, and kill half your components as well. CoolerMaster do some decent budget cases in their Elite range. Antec do some decent budget power supplies in their Basiq range.
The other thing that's weak is graphics card. You're not going to get much, on high/ultra @ 1080p. Pity you've already got mobo. It will work, fine, with CPU, but you could have saved a few bucks there, to help pay for other things.
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September 23, 2012 9:10:26 AM

I can't find anything about the PSU. But considering it comes free with an already cheap casing, I can only assume how inefficient it is.
The PSU should be one of the things you shouldn't cheap out on.

Drop the 6770, and get a 7770. They're the same price. o_o

If you had $50-100 more to spend, get an i5-3570K or i5-3450
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September 23, 2012 9:23:55 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.45 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 370 ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $756.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-23 05:24 EDT-0400)
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September 23, 2012 9:26:22 AM

^ If I'm not mistaken, the Mobo, RAM, and HDD shouldn't be covered in the $750 budget anymore since he already has them purchased.
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September 23, 2012 9:33:47 AM

excella1221 said:
^ If I'm not mistaken, the Mobo, RAM, and HDD shouldn't be covered in the $750 budget anymore since he already has them purchased.

OP doesn't really make that clear, could be original budget, out of which he's already ... Neads some clarification.
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September 23, 2012 9:37:09 AM

I got the idea that he has a budget of 750 of which he has already spent some amount to purchase those items.
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September 23, 2012 9:40:21 AM

get a true quad i5
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September 23, 2012 10:03:47 AM

Thanks for all the input. Sorry for being unclear. I have about 600-650 left to spend, not 750.
Any build suggestions would be nice.

I would love an i5 and a better graphics card but I'm not sure if the budget will allow it!
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September 23, 2012 10:55:08 AM

As you've already got an "overclocking" motherboard, if you were to step up to i5, it only really makes sense if you used an unlocked CPU, the i5-3570K. Then you've got the added expense of and aftermarket cooler. If you can do that, AND use decent GPU, great, but if you have to choose BETWEEN i5, and something like HD7850, or GTX660, go for the better GPU. You'll get more of performance gain, in gaming, than just going i5.
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September 23, 2012 6:30:25 PM

FinneousPJ said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.45 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 370 ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $756.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-23 05:24 EDT-0400)


is that psu powerful enough?
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September 24, 2012 4:44:44 AM

How does this look? I decided to up my budget.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/in3q

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Diamond Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($214.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 370 ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Raidmax 530W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($36.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $897.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-24 00:38 EDT-0400)

Is this PSU going to be a problem?
Should I just stick to the corsair 430w?
I really don't want my psu to blow out my system
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September 24, 2012 4:49:50 AM

That particular PSU has alot of negative reviews. Try looking for one with an 80 plus certification, and with a single +12V rail.
The GPU is good. I don't really know much about Diamond though.
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September 24, 2012 5:30:22 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Diamond Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($214.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 370 ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Raidmax 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($40.50 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $901.40
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-24 01:29 EDT-0400)

Semi final build?
Psu look good?
I may look for a different gpu if you guys have better suggestions :) 
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September 24, 2012 6:13:20 AM

The PSU is... an improvement, I guess. Not really familiar with Raidmax but they have semi-good reviews.
Here's a 430w PSU for $49.99, and a 530w PSU for $54.99
Check this page for a list of 7850s.
I would personally get either the Sapphire, MSI, or Gigabyte.
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September 24, 2012 7:44:09 AM

Here is the hopefully final product!
I changed the case because I wanted to buy from either amazon or newegg.
Any comments or suggestions?
Thanks again for all the help :) 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($205.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Green 530W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $909.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-24 03:42 EDT-0400)
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September 24, 2012 8:16:17 AM

Great stuff. I would let someone else comment on the monitor though since I know little to nothing about them.
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September 24, 2012 11:05:12 AM

ctomster said:
Here is the hopefully final product!
I changed the case because I wanted to buy from either amazon or newegg.
Any comments or suggestions?
Thanks again for all the help :) 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($205.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Green 530W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $909.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-24 03:42 EDT-0400)

Certainly, that power supply is an improvement on that Raidmax. Personally, I reckon it's worth getting a PC Power&C Silencer Mklll. You should be able to get a 500w, for very little more. Good quality and modular.
Monitor is fine for single person use/ gaming. Like all budget monitors, not particularly good for multi-person use (limited viewing angles), or for photo editing/film (lack of colour accuracy/contrast), but like I said, fine for gaming.
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September 24, 2012 11:06:27 AM

Seems like a fine build. Since you're stretching the budget I'd be tempted to add a SSD to hit 1k :lol: 
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September 24, 2012 9:15:42 PM

Thanks!

@finneouspj i'll get one when i have more money!

pcpartpicker sent me a warning about this build:
Potential Issues/Incompatibilities

ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard has an onboard USB 3.0 header, but Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case does not have front panel USB 3.0 ports.

What does this mean exactly and is this a big problem?
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September 24, 2012 9:29:32 PM

It just means that you will only have USB 3.0 outputs, at the rear of the case. It could be a minor inconvenience, but nothing worse. It just means that, say, an external hard drive with USB 3.0, would either have to be plugged in at the rear, or use front USB 2.0, which is slower. If you envisage that being an issue, there are other cases, that do have front USB 3.0.
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September 25, 2012 3:58:09 AM

^ what he said.
If you're OCD about the lack of it, and you don't mind spending an additional $10 for a case, I suggest the Rosewill Challenger-U3.
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September 25, 2012 4:10:35 AM

Its not a bit deal. Thanks again :) 
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September 25, 2012 4:11:27 AM

Best answer selected by ctomster.
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