Hi guys - I'm getting back in to PC gaming in a big way now that I have the space for it but am coming as a total n00b (this will be my first build).
I have done a ton of reading to try and wrap my head around the new tech and the forums have been invaluable for that - so big thanks already for the help!
I have a few requests as you critique my current build and offer me alternatives (thanks again and sorry for the question-dump!).
1. Easy to put together (as it's my first build!)
2. I'm also looking to probably not have to overclock this rig at all; but if the functionality is there I might tinker (particularly if it is automated so I don't accidentally set it on fire!).
3. I'm looking for value/future proofing and don't mind spending now to ensure that I'm saving in the long run. Hate how I used to keep buying new pre-built systems every 3-4 years!
4. I have an old Apple Cinema Display 24" (the old one with the fixed output in the back for the Mini Display Port). It's working fine and since it cost a bundle (and I still use it when I'm plugging in my PowerBook) it would be great if I could avoid having to buy a new display - my understanding is that with the DisplayPort in my system I should be able to get an adaptor to MiniDisplay in order to make it work; but if you guys think that's a bad idea and I should go for another monitor I will go for it - definitely don't want to compromise the rig.
5. My cable outlet is currently in another room and so I will probably need to wirelessly connect. I can either do this with an old AirportExpress that I have (plug it in and connect it to the network that way) but since I'm not sure that will protect my bandwith I'd love to know if there are better alternatives and how close they come to actually wired options.
6. i live in Singapore which means I don't know how to get a hold of some parts - is international shipping worth it and are newegg/amazon good for this? Otherwise may have to try my luck with the local stores.
7. Do I need sound cards and/or speakers/headphones and if so what do you guys recommend? Otherwise will use the built in ACD speakers over USB 3.0 (provided they are supported, which I doubt they will be...). I see a lot of gamers use wireless headphones vs. speakers for immersion rather than to "keep it down" - is that true and are they comfortable; otherwise what speakers do you think are great value. Not a huge audiophile but love immersive games.
8. Keyboard, Case, PSU - honestly guys, I got no idea what I'm doing here and I'm just looking at aggregate reviews and picking popular stuff that seems of decent value. I have a Logitech Performance Wireless mouse that I love, and if a gaming keyboard is worth it tell me why and I'll pick it up!
Thanks in advance guys!
Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: ASAP/this week or so
Budget Range: (e.g.: 300-400): As said, I'm looking for value over time so happy to spend money now. Would be willing to go as high as $2,500+ if it's still good value, though from what I can tell that's less efficient then waiting for the tech curve but I absolutely want max settings on anything so i don't feel like a beggar after I install a game and it puts me on minimum settings!
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming!
Are you buying a monitor: Depends on whether you guys think I need to or whether I can use the old ACD.
Parts to Upgrade: Whole System
Do you need to buy OS: Yes
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Looking for advice here as I'm based in Singapore, so international shipping is going to be a big factor or I'm going to have to try to track down what I need locally at the stores here. Local online shopping seems to suck.
Location: Singapore!
Parts Preferences: no strong preferences. Would love to stick with guys you trust as return policies from Singapore retailers aren't always as friendly as the States.
Overclocking: No, but open to some small level of experimentation if it does not add to the cost significantly.
SLI or Crossfire: Not immediately, but again as part of future proofing it would be something I'd want to have as an option long term.
Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x2000,
Additional Comments: While a nice looking case is always beautiful, I'm a practical guy and don't care about LEDs and windows if it means I miss out on value, or practical things like front loading USB ports.
As I'm getting back in to gaming but have an XBOX 360, for me it's big meaty strategy games, adventure/RPG games, MMOs (Guild Wars 2!), action RPGs. Not hugely in to first person shooters if that helps.
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading:
I have not had a PC in three years and I can't take it anymore!
Here's my current build based on what I've trawled from your advice!
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ihBS
Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/newegg/intel-cpu-bx80637i53570k
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/ncixus/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2
Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/amazon/asrock-motherboard-z77extreme4
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/amazon/corsair-memory-cmz8gx3m2a1600c9b
Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/newegg/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256m4ssd2baa
Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/amazon/asus-video-card-gtx670dc22gd5
Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/superbiiz/cooler-master-case-rc912kkn1
Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/newegg/corsair-power-supply-cmpsu750txv2
Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/superbiiz/lite-on-optical-drive-ihas124-04
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit)
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/amazon/microsoft-os-gfc02050
Lite-On SK-1788/BS Wired Standard Keyboard
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/newegg/lite-on-keyboard-sk1788bs
I have done a ton of reading to try and wrap my head around the new tech and the forums have been invaluable for that - so big thanks already for the help!
I have a few requests as you critique my current build and offer me alternatives (thanks again and sorry for the question-dump!).
1. Easy to put together (as it's my first build!)
2. I'm also looking to probably not have to overclock this rig at all; but if the functionality is there I might tinker (particularly if it is automated so I don't accidentally set it on fire!).
3. I'm looking for value/future proofing and don't mind spending now to ensure that I'm saving in the long run. Hate how I used to keep buying new pre-built systems every 3-4 years!
4. I have an old Apple Cinema Display 24" (the old one with the fixed output in the back for the Mini Display Port). It's working fine and since it cost a bundle (and I still use it when I'm plugging in my PowerBook) it would be great if I could avoid having to buy a new display - my understanding is that with the DisplayPort in my system I should be able to get an adaptor to MiniDisplay in order to make it work; but if you guys think that's a bad idea and I should go for another monitor I will go for it - definitely don't want to compromise the rig.
5. My cable outlet is currently in another room and so I will probably need to wirelessly connect. I can either do this with an old AirportExpress that I have (plug it in and connect it to the network that way) but since I'm not sure that will protect my bandwith I'd love to know if there are better alternatives and how close they come to actually wired options.
6. i live in Singapore which means I don't know how to get a hold of some parts - is international shipping worth it and are newegg/amazon good for this? Otherwise may have to try my luck with the local stores.
7. Do I need sound cards and/or speakers/headphones and if so what do you guys recommend? Otherwise will use the built in ACD speakers over USB 3.0 (provided they are supported, which I doubt they will be...). I see a lot of gamers use wireless headphones vs. speakers for immersion rather than to "keep it down" - is that true and are they comfortable; otherwise what speakers do you think are great value. Not a huge audiophile but love immersive games.
8. Keyboard, Case, PSU - honestly guys, I got no idea what I'm doing here and I'm just looking at aggregate reviews and picking popular stuff that seems of decent value. I have a Logitech Performance Wireless mouse that I love, and if a gaming keyboard is worth it tell me why and I'll pick it up!
Thanks in advance guys!
Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: ASAP/this week or so
Budget Range: (e.g.: 300-400): As said, I'm looking for value over time so happy to spend money now. Would be willing to go as high as $2,500+ if it's still good value, though from what I can tell that's less efficient then waiting for the tech curve but I absolutely want max settings on anything so i don't feel like a beggar after I install a game and it puts me on minimum settings!
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming!
Are you buying a monitor: Depends on whether you guys think I need to or whether I can use the old ACD.
Parts to Upgrade: Whole System
Do you need to buy OS: Yes
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Looking for advice here as I'm based in Singapore, so international shipping is going to be a big factor or I'm going to have to try to track down what I need locally at the stores here. Local online shopping seems to suck.
Location: Singapore!
Parts Preferences: no strong preferences. Would love to stick with guys you trust as return policies from Singapore retailers aren't always as friendly as the States.
Overclocking: No, but open to some small level of experimentation if it does not add to the cost significantly.
SLI or Crossfire: Not immediately, but again as part of future proofing it would be something I'd want to have as an option long term.
Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x2000,
Additional Comments: While a nice looking case is always beautiful, I'm a practical guy and don't care about LEDs and windows if it means I miss out on value, or practical things like front loading USB ports.
As I'm getting back in to gaming but have an XBOX 360, for me it's big meaty strategy games, adventure/RPG games, MMOs (Guild Wars 2!), action RPGs. Not hugely in to first person shooters if that helps.
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading:
I have not had a PC in three years and I can't take it anymore!
Here's my current build based on what I've trawled from your advice!
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ihBS
Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/newegg/intel-cpu-bx80637i53570k
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/ncixus/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2
Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/amazon/asrock-motherboard-z77extreme4
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/amazon/corsair-memory-cmz8gx3m2a1600c9b
Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/newegg/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256m4ssd2baa
Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/amazon/asus-video-card-gtx670dc22gd5
Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/superbiiz/cooler-master-case-rc912kkn1
Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/newegg/corsair-power-supply-cmpsu750txv2
Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/superbiiz/lite-on-optical-drive-ihas124-04
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit)
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/amazon/microsoft-os-gfc02050
Lite-On SK-1788/BS Wired Standard Keyboard
http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/newegg/lite-on-keyboard-sk1788bs