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September 23, 2012 11:37:54 AM

Hello, i would like to upgrade my current system to a gaming on a budget spec.
My current system is:
Intel e7200
HD 5670
P5K SE/EPU motherboard
500gb Samsung spinpoint f3
samsung syncmaster 913N monitor ( 19", lcd, 1280x1024 max resolution )

I am interested in buying a 21.5", LED LG, full HD monitor.
But i want to be able to watch blueray movies ( i can't on my current spec, it buffers/lags ), play games like Guild Wars 2 and Starcraft 2 on 1920x1080p with allmost if not all settings to the maximum.
Also another problem is my budget which is around 600$.

I was thinking of buying these:
GPU: MSI HD 7770 ~ 154$
http://www.emag.ro/placa-video-msi-amd-radeon-hd-7770-1...

CPU: I5 3450 ~ 251$
http://www.emag.ro/procesor-intel-174-core-small-sup-tm...

MB: B75 ~ 97$
http://www.emag.ro/placa-de-baza-gigabyte-socket-1155-b...

RAM: 2x4gb 1600 ~ 43$
http://www.emag.ro/kit-dual-channel-kingston-8192mb-2-x...

Which adds up to 545$.
I will keep my current case and if possible my current RaidMax 500 psu.

Any suggestions or problems, please tell me. I live in Europe so the prices are higher than on Newegg.

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September 23, 2012 11:41:49 AM

I can't edit the message!

I want to add that i will not OC components.
Unless its really really easy through a software and no change of components required.

I also look for the lowest consumption possible!
September 23, 2012 12:04:55 PM

My Suggestion: For about the same price you can go with i3 3220 and 7850. since it's primarily gaming/video I'd go with the more power full card. IF you are panning to keep on upgrading then keeping the i5 is a good idea as the video card is easier to replace (and that market changes fast)

NOt too sure about the MB ia don't see too those type of MBs much, I can''t tell if it has audio or not =) I think as long as you are not planning to Xfire or add a SDD it will do.
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September 23, 2012 12:07:49 PM

Hello! The build looks really good, I myself have a similar build and Starcraft utilizez a bit more than 60% of the cpu/gpu on highest settings. So you WILL be able to play most of the games on max, as well as I do. And please tell which monitor are you considering to buy.
September 23, 2012 12:10:17 PM

Surgeking said:
My Suggestion: For about the same price you can go with i3 3220 and 7850. since it's primarily gaming/video I'd go with the more power full card. IF you are panning to keep on upgrading then keeping the i5 is a good idea as the video card is easier to replace (and that market changes fast)

NOt too sure about the MB ia don't see too those type of MBs much, I can''t tell if it has audio or not =) I think as long as you are not planning to Xfire or add a SDD it will do.



The mobo is just ok. And wtf? U kiddin about the audio? of course it has audio. http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=...

And I dont see a problem with adding SSD.
September 23, 2012 12:31:49 PM

I don't plan on upgrading anything for at least 2-3 years.
If i replace the i5 with the i3 u mentioned i still need more money!
7850 - 315$
i3 3220 - 163$

It is over my budget doing that.

The monitor i have found is
137$
http://www.emag.ro/monitor-led-lg-21-5-wide-full-hd-neg...

I don't use the pc just for gaming, i use it for everything. Music, movies, games, browsing, that is why i was looking for a quad.

Also i don't plan on using SLI or Crossfire either.
September 23, 2012 12:48:02 PM

happymatei said:
I don't plan on upgrading anything for at least 2-3 years.
If i replace the i5 with the i3 u mentioned i still need more money!
7850 - 315$
i3 3220 - 163$

It is over my budget doing that.

The monitor i have found is
137$
http://www.emag.ro/monitor-led-lg-21-5-wide-full-hd-neg...

I don't use the pc just for gaming, i use it for everything. Music, movies, games, browsing, that is why i was looking for a quad.

Also i don't plan on using SLI or Crossfire either.


The monitor you have chosen doesn't have HDMI, which is important in both connectivity and picture quality. Believe me. Look for Full HD with HDMI.

Go for one of these:
1. http://www.emag.ro/monitor-led-samsung-21-5-wide-full-h...
2. http://www.emag.ro/monitor-led-samsung-23-wide-full-hd-...
September 23, 2012 1:08:42 PM

Ok, noted.

Regarding the pc components is it ok for what i want? ( blueray movies, guild wars 2 and starcraft 2 at maximum settings, music-browsing-playing at the same time ).

I don't see any articles regarding the new i3s.

Oh boy, i just found a 6850 at the same price as 7770!
What should i do?
From what i have read, 6850 is better than 7770 at everything except power consumption. It is also better as u scale up the resolution and settings. Is this right?

so to update everything on the last post, these are my choices atm from what i have found and what you guys told me:
MB: MSI B75 ~ 74$
http://www.dc-shop.ro/placi-de-baza/placa-de-baza-msi-b...

RAM: 2x4gb 1600 ~ 43$
http://www.emag.ro/kit-dual-channel-kingston-8192mb-2-x...

Now comes the things i could joggle:
Spec 1:
CPU: i5 3450 - 233$
http://www.dc-shop.ro/procesoare/procesor-intel-core-i5...
+
GPU: MSI HD 7770 ~ 154$
http://www.emag.ro/placa-video-msi-amd-radeon-hd-7770-1...

Spec 2:
CPU: i5 3450 - 233$
http://www.dc-shop.ro/procesoare/procesor-intel-core-i5...
+
GPU: MSI HD 6850 ~ 154$
http://www.dc-shop.ro/placi-video/placa-video-msi-radeo...

Spec 3:
CPU: i3 3220 ~ 153$
http://www.dc-shop.ro/procesoare/procesor-intel-core-i3...
+
GPU: MSI HD 7850 ~ 242$
http://www.dc-shop.ro/placi-video/placa-video-msi-radeo...
September 23, 2012 4:11:44 PM

I have updated the thread!
September 23, 2012 6:06:40 PM

happymatei said:
I have updated the thread!


Graphics: Not really. Listen, 7770 and 6850 are pretty much on the same level if it comes to the performance, but 7770, as it's new generation card, has latest technologies and, as you said, has lower power consumption. Besides, what also is important, 7770 is a new card, so it is not optimized to it's full potential. This will be done with new drivers in time. Simply put, 7770 will gain some performance improvement with new drivers. I would stay with this card. Definitely.

RAM: 8GB is a bit of overkill. 4GB is more than enough for gaming, movies, music and the internet. I have 4GB myself and I play Crysis 2, Starcraft 2, Battlefield 3 on highest settings at 1080p and RAM usage is below 70-65% even while having a browser running and some music playing in the background.

CPU: i5 3450 - Good CPU, stick with it. Don't go for lower than 4 cores, because quad is perfect for everything.

September 23, 2012 6:10:10 PM

happymatei said:
I have updated the thread!


EDIT!!

Graphics: Not really. Listen, 7770 and 6850 are pretty much on the same level if it comes to the performance, but 7770, as it's new generation card, has latest technologies and, as you said, has lower power consumption. Besides, what also is important, 7770 is a new card, so it is not optimized to it's full potential just yet. This will be done with new drivers in time. Simply put, the HD7770 will gain some performance improvement with new drivers. I would stay with this card. Definitely.

RAM: 8GB is a bit of overkill. 4GB is more than enough for gaming, movies, music and the internet. I have 4GB myself and I play Crysis 2, Starcraft 2, Battlefield 3 on highest settings at 1080p and RAM usage is below 70-65% even while having a browser running and some music playing in the background. Best option, in my opinion, is to get 2x2GB 1600 or higher.

CPU: i5 3450 - Good CPU, stick with it. Don't go for lower than 4 cores, because quad is perfect for everything.
September 23, 2012 6:44:35 PM

Thanks. I was thinking of 8 gb because its a very cheap offer.
Also what PSU whould be enough for i5 3450 + 7770 HD + 2 tb seagate hdd + 1 f3 samsung 500gb?
I would spend around 40$ for a new PSU since i won't do any OC and i just want it to be stable on its own.
September 23, 2012 7:01:35 PM

happymatei said:
Thanks. I was thinking of 8 gb because its a very cheap offer.
Also what PSU whould be enough for i5 3450 + 7770 HD + 2 tb seagate hdd + 1 f3 samsung 500gb?
I would spend around 40$ for a new PSU since i won't do any OC and i just want it to be stable on its own.


According to the Recommended Power Supply Wattage Calculator on ASUS website, you will need minimum 500 Watt power supply. That said, I would go for 550-600 Watt power supply from a well known companies like Thermaltake, Cooler Master or Corsair.

I DO NOT recommend for you to go for a cheap power supply, because you really can have some issues while gaming. Besides, a quality power supply offers a reliable Over Current, Over Power, Over Voltage, Under Voltage and Short-Circuit protection.
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