Good Budget Build?

[nidish7]

Hello,

For my first pc build, I'm opting for these parts. I wanted to go for an intel i5 IB build, but given I'm starting from scratch and have to buy a monitor as well, I'm tending more for the amd build. I just hope I'll be able to play Skyrim, BF3, MW3, Max Payne 3, Mass E 3 on atleast high if not ultra with no lag at 35-60 fps. If need be, I'll overclock the cpu to something like 4.2/4.3Ghz, whichever is more stable. It'll be only 1 monitor and no crossfire/sli...etc


Components:
CPU: http://www.amazon.com/AMD-Phenom-3-4Ghz-512KB-4000MHZ/dp/B002SRQ214/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348411231&sr=8-1&keywords=965

GPU: http://www.amazon.com/PowerColor-AX7850-2GBD5-2DH-Video-Graphics/dp/B007K3P3PC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348413518&sr=8-1&keywords=powercolor+785019

Case: http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Computer-Airflow-RC-912-KKN1/dp/B003ZM7YTA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348411406&sr=8-1&keywords=Haf+912

Ram: http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Modules-1600MHz-Non-ECC-Desktop/dp/B0057Q4ADU/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1348411431&sr=1-4&keywords=8gb+1600

SSD: None for now.

HDD: Hitachi Deskstar 7K300 64MB Cache 2TB

PSU: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004NBZAES/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Will there be any conflict? Or is it a good build? Will this system NEED an upgrade in the near future or will it be good without any major upgrade for atleast 1 more year?

 

[divine8]

Yes it will need an upgrade, and you listed the CPU twice and no GPU. I honestly think you should spend the extra money on atleast a i5-2400. At one point you will need to upgrade a PC and having intel will be so much better, rather then replacing the MOBO and CPU. Heres a great build just add a case and OS ( if you dont already have ) http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ifQR Less hard drive space but the best you can buy at $500

 

[zared619]

The build looks alright. However you links for you GPU, and MOBO are not working properly. Just to give you some alternatives, I will post a build for you. Reply with your the rest of your original build as well.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iihM

Hope this helps!

 

[zared619]

Raidmax PSU's are hit and miss. Some people have good luck with them and the other 50% hate them. Instead of gambling on a Raidmax just get a Corsair. They are really reliable, and well built PSU's. Intel processors are better at gaming, there is no doubt about that. However, for people on a budget, an AMD build will work just fine. Also a 7770 will not do what he wants it to do. It barely plays BF3 fluently with high, not ultra settings. In order to achieve fluent play on ultra settings, he needs a 7850.

 

[divine8]

Raidmax PSU's are hit and miss. Some people have good luck with them and the other 50% hate them. Instead of gambling on a Raidmax just get a Corsair. They are really reliable, and well built PSU's. Intel processors are better at gaming, there is no doubt about that. However, for people on a budget, an AMD build will work just fine. Also a 7770 will not do what he wants it to do. It barely plays BF3 fluently with high, not ultra settings. In order to achieve fluent play on ultra settings, he needs a 7850.

I have the setup myself and can RECORD on ultra BF3 around 35fps, better then consoles.. Without recording Easily 40+ also very easy to upgrade when needed. If you want to replace most of your PC next year buy his.

 

[nidish7]

Yep, updated the Graphics card link. If the phenom 965 fulfills my needs, I don't think i would spend xtra cash on a i5 SB/IB.

The card I had in mind was the 7850.

 

[divine8]

Yep, updated the Graphics card link. If the phenom 965 fulfills my needs, I don't think i would spend xtra cash on a i5 SB/IB.

The card I had in mind was the 7850.

Yes it will work but it will be such a bitch to upgrade when you do, but as you wish.

 

[divine8]

And also an Intel i3-2120 would smoke the phenom and still have the upgrading path open.

 

[zared619]

If he did go the intel route, the i3-3220 would be better, and depending on what all he does, he might need the quad core over the dual core

 

[zared619]

I have the setup myself and can RECORD on ultra BF3 around 35fps, better then consoles.. Without recording Easily 40+ also very easy to upgrade when needed. If you want to replace most of your PC next year buy his.

Often times, fluent is considered 30 fps. As I said, the 7770 barely plays Bf3 on high settings.

 

[divine8]

I'm getting 45FPS on BF3 Ultra settings with the 7770 without recording.

 

[zared619]

I'm getting 45FPS on BF3 Ultra settings with the 7770 without recording.

I would tell the guys that did this benchmark what you are doing then. They certainly weren't getting that.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7770-7750-benchmark,3135-6.html

 

[divine8]

Here you go with recording : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOdYv_G36ZM if 45FPS without recording isnt good enough for a low end budget build idk what is.

 

[divine8]

Also he never said his price, Im building off of $500 I could easily make it better. i5-2500k with 7850 will run great if you can afford it. i5-2400 with 7850 wont be as good but still great.

 

[zared619]

Here you go with recording : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOdYv_G36ZM if 45FPS without recording isnt good enough for a low end budget build idk what is.

I watched the video, and lo and behold, it was not perfect. It was jumpy at times. In reference to your last post, you are correct. However so many people budget way too much cpu for the gpu. Your gpu should cost atleast 1.5 times more than the cpu on a budget build. An i3-3220 with a 7850 will be superior to i5-2400 with a 7770.

 

[divine8]

Yes true i3 with 7850 is better just not good for upgrading. If he doesnt plan on upgrading go with that perfectly fine. But if you do plan on upgrading get a good CPU along with the GPU.

 

[zared619]

Yes true i3 with 7850 is better just not good for upgrading. If he doesnt plan on upgrading go with that perfectly fine. But if you do plan on upgrading get a good CPU along with the GPU.

What makes upgrading so difficult? If he wants a new CPU, he goes and buys a new CPU with and LGA 1155 socket. If he wants a new graphics card, he goes and buys and and puts it in? The only hard thing about upgrading is putting thermal paste on the cpu for the cooler (which isn't hard)

 

[nidish7]

My Budget is around $750 including a monitor, so actually around 600 for the

Ram, Mobo, CPU, GPU, PSU, aftermarket heatsink(if i get 965 to oc) n case(if possible), or else anther 50 for the case.

 

[zared619]

My Budget is around $750 including a monitor, so actually around 600 for the

Ram, Mobo, CPU, GPU, PSU, aftermarket heatsink(if i get 965 to oc) n case(if possible), or else anther 50 for the case.

Works out to $785 for everything after rebates. You could get a cheaper cooler, but this one is pretty good.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iiAK

 

[divine8]

BECAUSE you dont upgrade from a AMD to a AMD CPU there terrible compared to every intel with the same price. If you would chose any AMD CPU over a i7 you need to see a doctor.

 

[zared619]

Okay, you've made it clearly obvious that you are an Intel fanboy. Everyone on earth knows that Intel makes a better CPU. However, AMD has its place, and that is to provide a cheap CPU for budget builds that will manage through any game just fine. A phenom 2 X4 965 will not bottleneck any gpu until maybe a 670. That means that if you want to go cheap, go AMD. Believe it or not, AMD does infact make new CPU's every year that tend to be better than the year before, making upgrading pretty freaking easy. Yes, it means that if he ever decides to switch to Intel, he will have to spend an extra $80 or so for a new MOBO. The AMD will work just fine, and when it doesn't he can make a choice to go with a better AMD cpu or switch to Intel. Upgrading won't be more difficult if he decides to go AMD.

 

[divine8]

Lol whatever play 10fps in 2 months.

 

[nidish7]

Best answer selected by nidish7.

 

[zared619]

Best answer selected by nidish7.

nGlad I could help!