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Luxmark GPGPU Benchmark-Let the Races Begin!

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a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 1:47:52 PM

I have a major interest in GPGPU acceleration so I wanted to check out a benchmark that focused on it.

So I found this benchmark called Luxmark.

http://downloads.guru3d.com/LuxMark-v2.0-download-2851....

That is the download page on guru3d.

Toms uses this bench in its 2012 benching and here is their scoreboard.
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2012-vga-gpgpu/15-GP...

Toms uses the Luxball HDR GPU only test

I also found this scoreboard.
http://www.luxrender.net/luxmark/

they use the Sala scene for their benches

the best way to post your score is to use the windows 7 snipping tool and use a service like Photobucket or Imageshack to post is

Let the games begin!
a c 291 U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 1:53:54 PM

My gtx 560 Ti :) 

a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 2:08:28 PM

cool I am going to run Sala and Luxball right now and post results in a few
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a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 2:20:24 PM

okay here is Sala scene in windowed mode




that is a HD 6870 stock 900/1050 OCd to 950/1150
Phenom II x 4 965 Black Edition at 4ghz, 8gb of 1600mhz CL9

I am going to try the same scene in full screen mode and see if it makes a difference in score
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 2:46:26 PM

score didnt change using full screen

here is the Luxball HDR bench which is what Toms uses on their scoreboard




the bench we just did was Sala which is what that other scoreboard uses
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 2:58:19 PM

GTX 470
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 3:01:23 PM

try running the Luxball HDR in GPU only mode
the Toms benchmark chart uses that bench
also in the official Luxrender scoreboard you can use the search to drill down and find cards in the same performance bracket
and you beat me you young whippersnapper LOL
good going
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 3:11:54 PM

:D 
I get a pretty low score by the looks of it when running Luxball HDR (GPU):
a c 272 U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 3:30:06 PM

I scored 600, what do I win? :D 
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 3:39:07 PM

Mousemonkey said:
I scored 600, what do I win? :D 

Either cheese or a banana. They seem like appropriate prizes.
a c 272 U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 3:48:44 PM

AbdullahG said:
Either cheese or a banana. They seem like appropriate prizes.

Mmmm, creamy cheese and banana sandwich's...
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 3:56:38 PM

That's...that's nasty...

Did you score 600 with the 8800GT or the GTX 560?
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 3:57:46 PM

a c 272 U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 4:20:25 PM

AbdullahG said:
That's...that's nasty...

Did you score 600 with the 8800GT or the GTX 560?


The 8800GT of course (still the best card of all time IMHO), the 560 rig is busy atm looking for cures and I don't want to disturb it in case it tries to harm me when I'm sleeping. :sweat: 
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 4:31:34 PM

SALA

a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 5:55:06 PM

darn russk

your score is in the top 20 on the scoreboard



3550

2012-05-20 00:20:41

GPU 2xGeForce GTX 590 [64 units @ 0MHz] + 2xTesla M2050 [56 units @ 0MHz]







3182

2012-02-14 15:33:27

CPU+GPU 2xHD5870 + HD5850 + Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU @ 3.20GHz [12 units @ 3201MHz]


you would be in 9th place if you submit your score LOL
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 6:39:06 PM

king smp said:
darn russk

your score is in the top 20 on the scoreboard



3550

2012-05-20 00:20:41

GPU 2xGeForce GTX 590 [64 units @ 0MHz] + 2xTesla M2050 [56 units @ 0MHz]







3182

2012-02-14 15:33:27

CPU+GPU 2xHD5870 + HD5850 + Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU @ 3.20GHz [12 units @ 3201MHz]


you would be in 9th place if you submit your score LOL


Where are the scores and how do I submit?

**EDIT**

Nevermind, score submitted... check it out. I can flip the switch and I'd jump up a couple more spots!
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 7:06:22 PM

Very Cool we have a bench marking celebrity in our forum :) 
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 7:30:12 PM

darn RussK1 that is awesome
I have never even come close in my life to a top 20 chart in benchmarks
and Yeah! 965 BE
at under a hundred dollars it is one of the best deals in CPUs I have ever seen
right now the 965BE and 970be and 980be have limited availability at great prices
but sad to say they are only equal to a I7-920 stock when the BEs are at 4.2ghz
but I got my 965BE for $89 from Microcenter and as far as bang for buck goes that is hard to beat

a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 7:45:18 PM

I notice lower scores when using cpu + gpu's. I'll get 100% cpu usage but 50% scaling across 4 gpu's.
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 8:46:40 PM

I havent tried the CPU benching yet
interesting bench though one of the mods said on the Folding at home thread that AMDs do great in the OpenCL benching but in real world application have a problem with the drivers
my problem right now is that as far as GPU upgrades go by the end of the year I will have about a $250 upgrade budget for GPU but at that price point there really isnt any card I seen that will improve upon the HD 6870 enough to make it worth it
unless the HD 7870 comes down in price
hopefully I can get a 7870 for 250 with a holiday sale deal
i might just wait it out until AMD and Nvidia bring out new series of cards
a c 217 U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 8:57:44 PM

The reason AMD's do well is they didn't gut out OpenGL/ComputeShader from their chips as Nvidia did. Nvidia made pure gaming cards, AMD's are more rounded which do show different advantages.
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 9:09:15 PM

Yes I heard that
Nvidia didnt want people buying the gaming cards instead of workstation cards
I also do folding at home so that is a big factor in what card I buy
besides price of course LOL
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 9:10:14 PM

Quote:
interesting bench though one of the mods said on the Folding at home thread that AMDs do great in the OpenCL benching but in real world application have a problem with the drivers


Who's this coming from? Die hard nVidia fans? Can take a quick browse through the Adobe forums and see that the main complaints are aimed at nVidia and not AMD.

Much like the guys who love quoting BF3 benchmarks but don't have a single hour played.

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/979969

Quote:
Photoshop CS6 GPU FAQ


Introduction

This document provides a quick reference guide to video card usage in Photoshop. Some features require a compatible video card to work; if the video card or its driver is defective or unsupported, those features will not work at all. Other features use the video card for acceleration and if the card or driver is defective those features will run more slowly.


Mercury Graphics Engine

The Mercury Graphics Engine (MGE) represents features that use video card, or GPU, acceleration. In Photoshop CS6, this new engine delivers near-instant results when editing with key tools such as Liquify, Warp, Lighting Effects and the Oil Paint filter. The new MGE delivers unprecedented responsiveness for a fluid feel as you work.

MGE is new to Photoshop CS6, and uses both the OpenGL and OpenCL frameworks. It does not use the proprietary CUDA framework from nVidia.

In order to use MGE, you must have a supported video card and updated driver. If you do not have a supported card, performance will be degraded. In most cases the acceleration is lost and the feature runs in the normal CPU mode. However, there are some features that will not work without a supported video card.


If you look at the bottom the GTX 600 series aren't even supported.
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 9:20:04 PM

I would have to look back but I think it was randomizer that said it but not sure
I dont have any particular allegiance to either Nvidia or AMD but I will say that Nvidia is being lame for crippling their cards for anything besides gaming
really anybody who works at a professional level will buy a workstation card anyway so crippling the gaming cards for GPGPU use only hurts the home user
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 9:52:02 PM

king smp said:
I would have to look back but I think it was randomizer that said it but not sure
I dont have any particular allegiance to either Nvidia or AMD but I will say that Nvidia is being lame for crippling their cards for anything besides gaming
really anybody who works at a professional level will buy a workstation card anyway so crippling the gaming cards for GPGPU use only hurts the home user


Not everyone has the money to buy a professional card... and not everybody buys a card strictly for gaming. If that makes sense... :whistle: 

Looking at the whole picture, who is better? :heink: 

More and more developers are ditching Cuda for OpenCL because OpenCL can execute code on a CPU and GPU. Can target FPGA's to execute parallel operations on reconfigurable hardware and share paths with OpenGL for visualization



a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 10:41:12 PM

for me I look at GPUs for more than gaming
I have been studying video editing and rendering plus I do like to game so for me I like a card that is good at both but the GPU makers dont like that
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 11:29:34 PM

To make it interesting -

CPU only (2600K @ 4.5ghz) #15/#17 respectively


a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 11:34:00 PM

RussK1 said:
Not everyone has the money to buy a professional card... and not everybody buys a card strictly for gaming. If that makes sense... :whistle: 

Looking at the whole picture, who is better? :heink: 

More and more developers are ditching Cuda for OpenCL because OpenCL can execute code on a CPU and GPU. Can target FPGA's to execute parallel operations on reconfigurable hardware and share paths with OpenGL for visualization

opinions....
and like a-holes.... ;) 
a c 217 U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 11:44:40 PM

RussK1 said:
Not everyone has the money to buy a professional card... and not everybody buys a card strictly for gaming. If that makes sense... :whistle: 

Looking at the whole picture, who is better? :heink: 

More and more developers are ditching Cuda for OpenCL because OpenCL can execute code on a CPU and GPU. Can target FPGA's to execute parallel operations on reconfigurable hardware and share paths with OpenGL for visualization


That depends on what you want to do. Nvidia does gain some advantages by not supporting OpenGL/DirectCompute. They can ignore that part of the architecture and have a faster, cooler card for pure gaming purposes. Now, there are times that it backfires, like Metro 2033, which actually uses DirectCompute, which is why AMD outperforms Nvidia on that game.

So it's all up top your priorities. I chose Nvidia due to 3D Vision.
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2012 11:50:53 PM

bystander said:
That depends on what you want to do. Nvidia does gain some advantages by not supporting OpenGL/DirectCompute. They can ignore that part of the architecture and have a faster, cooler card for pure gaming purposes. Now, there are times that it backfires, like Metro 2033, which actually uses DirectCompute, which is why AMD outperforms Nvidia on that game.

So it's all up top your priorities. I chose Nvidia due to 3D Vision.

except when PhysX is enabled on that game..
a c 217 U Graphics card
August 5, 2012 12:10:16 AM

verbalizer said:
except when PhysX is enabled on that game..


Unless things changed since the initial batch of benchmarks, AMD outperformed Nvidia even with PhysX enabled. Metro 2033 barely uses PhysX, so it's not really a game to show case it.
a b U Graphics card
August 5, 2012 12:11:11 AM

bystander said:
Unless things changed since the initial batch of benchmarks, AMD outperformed Nvidia even with PhysX enabled. Metro 2033 barely uses PhysX, so it's not really a game to show case it.

if that's true then what's the point of calling it a PhysX game.?
man that's disappointing.

how is Borderland's 2 going to do then.?

EDIT:
the thing is that I really don't care about the game or performance, I'm just against personal opinions
being passed off as actual facts when they are just opinions..
a c 217 U Graphics card
August 5, 2012 12:14:46 AM

verbalizer said:
if that's true then what's the point of calling it a PhysX game.?
man that's disappointing.

how is Borderland's 2 going to do then.?


Metro 2033 is the only "PhysX" game that I know of, that offers GPU accelerated PhysX (not just the engine using the CPU) that behaves this way.

I don't know about Borderlands 2. It should offer a benefit. It doesn't really help them sell stuff to make a game that is "a PhysX" game, and not have it perform any better on Nvidia.

Here is the first benchmarks on it that I have seen (you almost never see PhysX compared on this game): http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,707055/Metro-2033-Be...

You'll notice that it is using fairly old stuff for Nvidia, since they had not released the 400 series. That said, you'll see the same if not more performance loss when PhysX was enabled on the Nvidia cards.
a b U Graphics card
August 5, 2012 2:42:56 AM



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