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September 24, 2012 2:57:45 PM

Hey Guys,

So I'm almst done with the final specs ofwhat will be my 1st ever gaming build and 1st ever gaming pc :) 
Im very excited but could use some help or suggestions since this is the all knowing forum. This rig is primarily for gaming and I will not be overclocking straight away but shoul be giving myself enough headroom to do so.

The specs are as follows:

CPU: i5 3750k
MOBO: Asus P8Z77-V PRO LGA1155 WiFi ATX
CPU Cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212 evo
HDD1: Corsair Force 3 GT 240gb
HDD2: WD Caviar 1tb
GPU: Radeon 7970 :) 
Memory: Corsair vengeance low profile 8gb
PSU:850W

games I inend to play are BF3 MW3 Starcraftand a few others.
Can anyone find anything here that may not work together or something that would be a performance increase?

Thanks guys and happy gaming :hello: 

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a c 271 4 Gaming
September 24, 2012 4:24:11 PM

What's your budget? That's a good start but I think I'd switch out that SSD - the Force 3 isn't a good choice. The Samsung 830 or Crucial M4 would be far better bets.
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September 24, 2012 5:33:29 PM

Including all perhiperal i.e monitor, network cards, optical drives and so on £2000. Interesting you should mention the Crucial M4, I have seen many reviews of it on here.
a c 271 4 Gaming
September 24, 2012 6:31:42 PM

RedPringles said:
Including all perhiperal i.e monitor, network cards, optical drives and so on £2000. Interesting you should mention the Crucial M4, I have seen many reviews of it on here.


Yeah the M4 is one of the best on the market - along with the Plextor PX-M3 and Samsung 830.

Try this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£161.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£55.95 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP4 TH ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£159.32 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£49.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (£76.12 @ Dabs)
Storage: Plextor PX-M3S Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£196.58 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (£419.62 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (White) ATX Full Tower Case (£134.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£181.08 @ CCL Computers)
Optical Drive: Lite-On DS-8A8SH DVD/CD Writer (£19.16 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) (£67.66 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £1522.46
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-24 19:32 BST+0100)
September 24, 2012 8:27:30 PM

Thanks, I gona switch out for the Crucial M4 :) 
a c 271 4 Gaming
September 24, 2012 8:30:31 PM

RedPringles said:
Thanks, I gona switch out for the Crucial M4 :) 


I included the Plextor M3 which is faster but the M4 is also a good choice - they both use the same controller.
a b 4 Gaming
September 24, 2012 8:30:40 PM

i suggest the vertex 4 instead. based off the same silicon but much faster. apparantly very reliable
September 25, 2012 4:36:04 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£166.97 @ Dabs)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£26.65 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI Z68A-G43 (G3) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£73.86 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (£27.66 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£147.99 @ Dabs)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (£53.85 @ Dabs)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (£53.85 @ Dabs)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (£312.98 @ Novatech)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case (£54.53 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-206MBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer (£113.66 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: Dell U2711 60Hz 27.0" Monitor (£497.99 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) (£67.66 @ CCL Computers)
Keyboard: Microsoft Sidewinder X4 (UK Layout) Wired Standard Keyboard (£32.60 @ Ebuyer)
Mouse: Razer RZ01-00780100-R3U1 Wired Laser Mouse (£74.87 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £1755.11
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-25 05:29 BST+0100)

You got about 240 left to pick out some speakers and/or a headset. You can add a cheap geforce like gt610 for physx if you want. Hope this helps.
a b 4 Gaming
September 25, 2012 5:15:19 AM

Bad choice on the storage, monitor, RAM (needs to be low profile), MOBO, and CPU above - go with g-unit's build.
September 25, 2012 6:30:27 AM

@azeem40: I don't know if you are talking about my suggested build or not, but the cpu is great and has loads of overclocking potential( a little overpriced,
but that leads to the next point). You don't need to spend a ton of cash to get a decent, feature rich mobo that can push your cpu. The corsair xms ram IS
low profile. Since g-unit1111 agrees the crucial m4 is good for os/games/apps, you don't need a 7200rpm hdd to stream pics, music and movies. I put in
2 for raid 1 if the op wants a little redundancy, but they can take 2 or leave 1(that drive is also the cheapest 1TB hdd in the UK right now, at least according
to pcpartpicker.com). I guess I flipped the last 2(was working in reverse order. Oh, well), but that 27 inch dell is great. It's 2560x1440, ips, fast response
(for an ips panel), and only 500 quid. You may find a somewhat cheaper korean monitor on ebay with similar specs, but it's hard enough trying to suggest
good parts without taking time to scour the ever changing gob of things and prices that is ebay. Maybe I just don't have enough experience in that area.
a c 271 4 Gaming
September 25, 2012 6:11:26 PM

azeem40 said:
Bad choice on the storage, monitor, RAM (needs to be low profile), MOBO, and CPU above - go with g-unit's build.


Corsair XMS 3 is low profile but it's very bad RAM - Vengeance is better but something from G.Skill, Mushkin, or Crucial.

Quote:
I put in
2 for raid 1 if the op wants a little redundancy, but they can take 2 or leave 1(that drive is also the cheapest 1TB hdd in the UK right now, at least according
to pcpartpicker.com).


RAID is pointless anymore - it sets the drives up for far more failure than anything else you can get. It's not any faster than a 2TB hard drive is.

Quote:
You may find a somewhat cheaper korean monitor on ebay with similar specs, but it's hard enough trying to suggest
good parts without taking time to scour the ever changing gob of things and prices that is ebay.


They're out there but finding a reliable seller can be quite tricky.
September 25, 2012 7:09:22 PM

Guys i just wanted to thank everyone for the advice. Now all I need is some refining to see if i can cut a few more quid off the parts. Most of the components are from Ebuyer and seem to be the cheapest around.

Very excited :) 
September 25, 2012 7:26:55 PM

@g-unit1111: People were complaining about the temps on crucial ballistics sport with its chintzy heat spreaders. The op can pony up a few more quid for
G.skill or Muskin if they want(as long as the heatspreaders are low profile so as not to interfere with the fan on the cpu cooler). Or Corsair Vengeance LP.

Not raid 0(striping for performance), raid 1(mirroring, in case one drive fails. That way data is preserved and the array can be rebuilt. Cheaper than or an
addition to external backup. It won't save the data if the whole system goes like an external backup can, though). Also, the hard drives I picked are no
longer the cheapest available. I'd look to see if there is something faster and cheaper, but don't have time right now to mod the build. The OP can edit
my suggested build with any parts they want(if they want to). Actually, I just looked and right now, the cheapest is a 7200 rpm hitachi deskstar with 32MB
of cache. Then there's a green seagate and 7200rpm seagates with 32MB or 64MB of cache. The WD caviar greens have 64MB cache and a lot of folks
find them more reliable than seagate or hitachi(seagate doesn't bother me, but idk much about hitachi). Edit: Patriot, Kingston and Geil ok for ram too.

I don't know if I'd go with A Data, though. Maybe.
a b 4 Gaming
September 25, 2012 7:42:35 PM

my ram is always cold
a c 271 4 Gaming
September 25, 2012 8:13:19 PM

jtenorj said:
@g-unit1111: People were complaining about the temps on crucial ballistics sport with its chintzy heat spreaders. The op can pony up a few more quid for
G.skill or Muskin if they want(as long as the heatspreaders are low profile so as not to interfere with the fan on the cpu cooler). Or Corsair Vengeance LP.


The bad thing is when you get the tall heat spreaders you will run into difficulty installing your cooler.

Quote:
Not raid 0(striping for performance), raid 1(mirroring, in case one drive fails. That way data is preserved and the array can be rebuilt. Cheaper than or an
addition to external backup. It won't save the data if the whole system goes like an external backup can, though). Also, the hard drives I picked are no
longer the cheapest available. I'd look to see if there is something faster and cheaper, but don't have time right now to mod the build. The OP can edit
my suggested build with any parts they want(if they want to). Actually, I just looked and right now, the cheapest is a 7200 rpm hitachi deskstar with 32MB
of cache. Then there's a green seagate and 7200rpm seagates with 32MB or 64MB of cache. The WD caviar greens have 64MB cache and a lot of folks
find them more reliable than seagate or hitachi(seagate doesn't bother me, but idk much about hitachi). Edit: Patriot, Kingston and Geil ok for ram too.


Hitachi HDs are cheap but they're definitely not the most reliable out there. RAID is a trade off - sure you get backup protection but it's very complicated to setup for a beginner or first time user.
September 25, 2012 8:30:40 PM

I modded my suggested build with a 2x4GB set of Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600 1.5V CL9. If you run it at DDR3 1333 mode, it'll be nice and cool.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£166.97 @ Dabs)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£26.65 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI Z68A-G43 (G3) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£73.86 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£31.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£147.99 @ Dabs)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (£60.82 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (£60.82 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (£312.98 @ Novatech)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case (£54.53 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-206MBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer (£113.66 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: Dell U2711 60Hz 27.0" Monitor (£497.99 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) (£67.66 @ CCL Computers)
Keyboard: Microsoft Sidewinder X4 (UK Layout) Wired Standard Keyboard (£32.60 @ Ebuyer)
Mouse: Razer RZ01-00780100-R3U1 Wired Laser Mouse (£74.87 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £1773.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

That leaves you with about 220 pounds(having factored carriage at scan) for speakers/headset and maybe a cheap geforce like gt610 for physx if you want.

Edit: Corsair Vengeance LP(low profile). RedPringles can use 2 WD green or one; or go for a faster, cheaper seagate(or 2). just click pcpartpicker part list and edit.
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