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September 24, 2012 11:54:47 PM

This is my first time building a computer and I was wondering if all the compenents I have chosen are compatible and if you guys have any other suggestions.

Approximate Purchase Date: December 2012

My budget is $3000 without mail in rebates and after shipping (automatic discounts are great!).

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Multimedia editing/viewing, High multitasking, Internet, Document processing

I need a monitor; I currently have a laptop.

I need an OS, preferebally Windows 7 (not planning to switch to Windows 8 after looking at reviews, preview, etc.).

My preferred website for parts is newegg.com

My location is close to Salt Lake City, Utah

I will most likely do no overclocking at the start, but then later on (probably after warranty is up) I will do high overclocking.

I would love SLI or Crossfire but would not like to cut the budget for it in another spot.

My preferred monitor resolution is 1920x1080 or better.

Additional Comments: Needs a window with lots of lights, bling, etc. preferrably quiet, needs to be "future-proof"

Here is a link to a document of the parts I have already chosen:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N_ibOglQBiwNyBQkkYi...

Here are the links to each individual part on newegg:

Spoiler
Case: NZXT SWITCH 810 White CA-SW810-W1 Steel / Plastic ATX HYBRID Full Tower Gaming Computer Case $169.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: SeaSonic X-SERIES X-1050 1050W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply $199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $279.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K $329.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7Q-16GBZM $129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics Card: PowerColor AX7970 3GBD5-M2DHG Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card $449.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Storage:
SSD (Main Storage): Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD (Data Storage): Seagate Barracuda XT ST32000641AS 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $159.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sound Card: ASUS Xonar DGX 5.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Express x1 Interface Gaming Audio Card $39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Blu-ray Drive: ASUS Black 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA Internal Blu-ray Drive Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM $49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Water Cooling for CPU: CORSAIR H100 (CWCH100) Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler $114.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor: Asus VK278Q Black 27" 1920x1080 2ms Full HD HDMI LED BackLight LCD Monitor w/Webcam 300 cd/m2 10,000,000 :1 (ASCR) $319.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Keyboard and Mouse: Logitech Wireless Combo MK260 920-002950 Black 8 Hot Keys USB RF Wireless Standard Keyboard and Mouse $28.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium $179.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Microsoft Office: Microsoft Office 2010 Home & Student 3-User $129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Media Player: CyberLink PowerDVD 12 Ultra $76.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Maintenance Software: TuneUp Utilities 2012 - 3 User $34.95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mouse Pad: BELKIN F8E089-BLK Mouse Pad $2.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Blue LED Fans (6): AeroCool Shark 140mm Black Edition 140mm Blue LED Case Fan $16.49 ea - $98.94 total
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Blue Cathode Lights (2): LOGISYS Computer CLK12BL2 12" DUAL COLD CATHODE KIT - OEM $7.78 ea - $15.56 total
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Xbox 360 Controller Receiver: White Wireless Gaming Receiver for Microsoft XBOX 360 PC $13.95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1GK...


TOTAL without shipping: $3026.23

Thanks for all the feedback/help! It is all greatly appreciated!

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September 25, 2012 12:09:00 AM

read my quote

ok now this is all you would need
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/irEg

-has overclocking and SLI capabilities
-got a IPS instead of a faster TN monitor given better image quality always beats speed
-no need for extra fans. even then id get different fans
-you can get a windowed version of my case if you would like
-spend more than 10 bucks on a mousepad or dont use one
-xbox controller on a pc defeats the point of having a pc in my opinion
-no need for a sound card. onboard sound is good enough for 90% of users
-if you want a blu-ray drive go ahead. just note that dvds are dying out
-the switch 810 is a good case, but you definitly dont need the space
-h100 is extremely loud. putting aftermarket fans on them reduce performance and in the end cost double the amount for a noctua nh-d14. yes it looks bad but performs awesomely
-you dont need the wattage
September 25, 2012 12:09:01 AM

I'd personally put all that software in a separate budget - and if you pay a bit more for the BD-R player it should come with Cyberlink - no need to pay $75 forit, and no need to pay $35 for Tune Up either. I wouldn't spend the money on the extra fans until you know how many mounts your case has, and the extra lights and mouse pad aren't needed either.

You also don't need the sound card as the onboard audio on your motherboard will work fine. I wouldn't pay the money for the H100 - it's the very low end of the liquid cooling spectrum. If you're going to use liquid cooling do the real thing or not at all. Go with a strong air fan like a Noctua D14 instead. And you can use Open Office for free instead of paying $129 for Microsoft Office.

The last 7 or 8 items on that list are all things you don't need to spend money on as you can really get most for free or come with the drive, etc.
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September 25, 2012 12:10:08 AM

OK. You can save a ton of money here without sacrificing any performance.
-Swap the motherboard for one in the $160-$180 range, or even a nice $130 ASRock Z77 Extreme4. It'll do everything you need.
-Get a far cheaper, far lower wattage PSU. A good 650W box is plenty (yes, plenty) for two 7970s. Get a gold-rated one—why not?
-If you don't have a surround sound setup, drop the sound card. It doesn't sound any better than integrated sound, as far as I can make out. Nobody's ever been willing to do a side-by-side comparison and prove me wrong, anyway.
-Drop that DVD and Tuneup junk. You can get free apps for both of those purposes.
-Switch your Windows to an OEM version. It's $80 cheaper.

+1 to troll's suggestions. You can definitely drop the H100 for a Noctua, a Scythe Mugen 3 or a Hyper 212 EVO.
September 25, 2012 1:49:08 AM

I was planning on not using the stock fans on the H100 and using 4 fans for the push/pull on it. Is this better or would a Noctua still be better? The Switch 810 has plenty of room for the h100 with push/pull. Also, I chose the motherboard because it has wifi which I will need for at least the time being. Is it worth going with this motherboard or should I go for a cheaper one and get a wifi addon? Thanks for insight on the Blu-ray drive and software. I am now going to get the LITE-ON Black 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA Internal Internal 12x BD Combo Model iHES212-08 LightScribe Support instead at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... for just $80 which comes with software! I am going to drop TuneUp and I have already checked the specs of the case and it can fit the 6 extra fans including the ones it comes with. Microsoft Office is required for my school because my teacher does not accept any document thats not from that exact version. (I know, stupid right?) The other stuff like the lights and receiver are just a couple of cool things I want and would like to have just to fancy it up a bit. I already own a high quality surround sound system so I think the sound card will be worth the money. If not that monitor, which do you recommend? And what fans would get instead of the ones I chose? I prefer blue LED but I guess I can live without them. :)  Thanks for the advice so far and all more would be immensely appreciated! :D 
September 25, 2012 2:03:16 AM

1: push pull h100 costs you around 140 dollars. double of that of a d14 and only 5-7c cooler
2:the z77-v pro has wifi just like the deluxe.
September 25, 2012 2:08:17 AM

TheBigTroll said:
1: push pull h100 costs you around 140 dollars. double of that of a d14 and only 5c cooler
2:the z77-v pro has wifi just like the deluxe.


Alright I had no idea the d14 was that good for the price! I will definately go with that then. And okay thanks I will also go with the pro version! Thank you so much for such quick replies!!
September 25, 2012 2:11:42 AM

Note that you can keep going in that direction with very little loss of performance. I believe the $50 Mugen 3 is within a couple of degrees of the Noctua.
September 25, 2012 2:17:01 AM

Does anyone have a link to benchmarks for heatsinks? I would like to check some out :D 
September 25, 2012 2:27:26 AM

I feel like the Noctua would be a better choice as it is quieter and moves more air. I know its more money but I feel it is the best deal and I think I'm going to go with that. The Mugen 3 doesnt have very good reviews so I am nervous with going with that choice.
September 25, 2012 2:33:38 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/isBs

http://www.razerzone.com/ca-en/store/razer-sphex $15
Office for $150
$45 worth of lights and Xbox accessories


$2677

Some changes I made:
I found an 850 watt PSU for the same price as the 750 watt. This should allow you to do a tri-CF if ever desired.
Swapped to a better SSD.
D-14 Cooler
Dropped the sound card and replaced it with an amazing motherboard with killer onboard sound.
Removed a lot of fans
Opted for better peripherals. You know have gaming equipment rather than office equipment.
OEM Windows.

You're getting better performance for cheaper...

Enjoy your build!
September 25, 2012 2:36:45 AM

mastrom101 said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/isBs

http://www.razerzone.com/ca-en/store/razer-sphex $15
Office for $150
$45 worth of lights and Xbox accessories


$2677

Some changes I made:
I found an 850 watt PSU for the same price as the 750 watt. This should allow you to do a tri-CF if ever desired.
Swapped to a better SSD.
D-14 Cooler
Dropped the sound card and replaced it with an amazing motherboard with killer onboard sound.
Removed a lot of fans
Opted for better peripherals. You know have gaming equipment rather than office equipment.
OEM Windows.

You're getting better performance for cheaper...

Enjoy your build!


he is going to end up with a huge bundle of cables at the bottom of his case
September 25, 2012 2:38:28 AM

Is the RAM I picked worth the money or should I go with one that has worse CAS Latency? And is the ASRock z77 extreme9 really worth the money??
September 25, 2012 2:46:03 AM

NH-D14 Review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=468UMxue8KA

I was able to overclock my cpu to 4.6 with Noctua.
My Temps: Idle:34-47c Load:57-62c They are also dead quiet.
And some ppl were able to get 5.0 Ghz.
Also its an huge heatsink.
I saw you talk about Switch 810.
I have that case too, Its awesome case!
Future proof, and lots of room to work with. Fits motherboard of all standard sizes
Micro-ATX to Full Size. Even supports E-ATX.
I RECOMMEND NH-D14 and SWITCH 810




September 25, 2012 2:47:34 AM

hthorntonp7 said:
Is the RAM I picked worth the money or should I go with one that has worse CAS Latency? And is the ASRock z77 extreme9 really worth the money??


go with what i suggested and you will be golden. and no, just get a z77-v pro over the extreme9
September 25, 2012 2:51:30 AM

Xlerator said:
NH-D14 Review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=468UMxue8KA

I was able to overclock my cpu to 4.6 with Noctua.
My Temps: Idle:34-47c Load:57-62c They are also dead quiet.
And some ppl were able to get 5.0 Ghz.
Also its an huge heatsink.
I saw you talk about Switch 810.
I have that case too, Its awesome case!
Future proof, and lots of room to work with. Fits motherboard of all standard sizes
Micro-ATX to Full Size. Even supports E-ATX.
I RECOMMEND NH-D14 and SWITCH 810


Someone suggested the Fractal Design Define R4 for the case. It's a mid tower which would work better for my desk of course but the Switch 810 is future proof as you said. What do you think I should go for?
September 25, 2012 2:52:35 AM

TheBigTroll said:
go with what i suggested and you will be golden. and no, just get a z77-v pro over the extreme9


Alright Ill go with the z77 pro. As for the memory its reviews aren't very good. Is the Adata a good choice or would another company that costs more be better? (Id rather spend more and get good memory than get bad memory)
September 25, 2012 2:58:36 AM

hthorntonp7 said:
Alright Ill go with the z77 pro. As for the memory its reviews aren't very good. Is the Adata a good choice or would another company that costs more be better? (Id rather spend more and get good memory than get bad memory)



CAS 9 is more than fine. Personally the motherboard is up to you, but if you were thinking about a sound card than the extreme 9 is definitely worth it.
September 25, 2012 3:01:01 AM

Getting the Z77 pro and an Asus sound card would still be a lower price than the extreme9. The questions is how do the two sound cards compare? (the asus and extreme9)? For the memory would the Adata he recommended be better or should I get a CAS 9 Ripjaws such as the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Is a modular power supply worth the extra money? And how certified is good for a power supply? Gold? Bronze?
September 25, 2012 3:33:03 AM

asus video card? i only suggest the msi power edition.

you wont tell the difference between cas 9 and cas 11 ram just saying.

my 80+ silver xfx xxx is more than enough.
September 25, 2012 3:36:40 AM

TheBigTroll said:
asus video card? i only suggest the msi power edition.

you wont tell the difference between cas 9 and cas 11 ram just saying.

my 80+ silver xfx xxx is more than enough.


If I do SLI/Crossfire will 750W be enough or should I get the 850W version? And sorry typo. Meant sound card.
September 25, 2012 10:48:34 AM

as i said, the 750w is more than enough

id still stick with the asus panel given it does have a slightly faster response time. 8ms is sometimes too slow for games.
September 25, 2012 9:22:41 PM

hthorntonp7 said:
Getting the Z77 pro and an Asus sound card would still be a lower price than the extreme9. The questions is how do the two sound cards compare? (the asus and extreme9)? For the memory would the Adata he recommended be better or should I get a CAS 9 Ripjaws such as the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Is a modular power supply worth the extra money? And how certified is good for a power supply? Gold? Bronze?



Both set ups will have excellent sound, but with the extreme9, your getting a much better MOBO with way more features that overclocks better.

Ripjaws

Stay with the Asus monitor

Modular isn't really needed.

Bronze is fine unless you're extremely concerned about saving power.


September 27, 2012 3:38:21 AM

Alright, so far I have gotten my setup to this:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iF33
Plus $250 of others (Microsoft Office, Fans, Accessories, etc.)
How is that? Any suggestions? :??: 
September 27, 2012 3:42:02 AM

still a asus motherboard. i dont trust companies who generally are at the lower end making higher end stuff

get the regular barracuda and increase speed and cut the cost in half

stupid why you would spend a couple thousand on a system and get a 20 dollar keyboard

get this and another mouse
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
September 27, 2012 3:42:32 AM

no need for fans and other acessories
September 27, 2012 4:55:53 AM

TheBigTroll said:
still a asus motherboard. i dont trust companies who generally are at the lower end making higher end stuff


Like who? Biostar? ECS?

Quote:
Plus $250 of others (Microsoft Office, Fans, Accessories, etc.)


Don't pay $250 for MS Office when you can get Open Office for free and it will read and convert to MS Word, Excel and Powerpoint formats. The extra fans aren't needed and you can only get as many fans as your case has mounts for. Also most accessories you can think of are most likely not needed so it's pointless to waste money on them (tool kits, surge bars, wires, cables, cable ties, fancy lighting, all that stuff...).
September 27, 2012 10:49:00 AM

yeah i dont trust Biostar but our family was pretty fine with our ecs p4 motherboards
September 29, 2012 6:04:35 AM

TheBigTroll said:
still a asus motherboard. i dont trust companies who generally are at the lower end making higher end stuff

get the regular barracuda and increase speed and cut the cost in half

stupid why you would spend a couple thousand on a system and get a 20 dollar keyboard

get this and another mouse
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Which Barracuda are you talking about? (I will need 2TB)
September 29, 2012 10:03:00 AM

hthorntonp7 said:
Alright, I have gotten my setup to this:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iPR4
What are your thoughts?


Much better, great motherboard choice. Though the PSU is still way overkill lol. Look, it says your estimated wattage is 480. Just get a 750W PSU. Going way over what you need doesn't help at all, it actually reduces efficiency.
September 29, 2012 11:30:44 AM

much more balanced. if you want the colours to match a bit more, switch the motherboard to a z77mpower from msi. it would look really nice with the 7970 lightning

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iQsE

sound card is not needed. either you get a dx 7.1 or dont bother
September 29, 2012 6:38:12 PM

Alright, I switched the PSU to the SeaSonic X750 Gold and swapped the sound card for the Asus DX 7.1. For the video card should I go with Sapphire or MSI or another brand for the 7970?
September 29, 2012 7:54:16 PM

swap the hard drive as well

the black switch is 40 bucks cheaper

get the pa238q over the pa248. its much cheaper for the same thing.

i have a much superior gaming keyboard than the sidewinder x4

my blu ray drive is cheaper and performs the same

i personally would go msi lightning but sapphire vapor x is also great
September 29, 2012 8:10:09 PM

Consider looking at 2048x1152 resolution. It's the highest pixel density you can get in the 23" range. (since be both want to be above 1080p)
October 5, 2012 3:22:12 AM

Has anyone mentioned the excess memory yet? At least half of those 32gb are just going to sit idle.
October 6, 2012 10:54:42 PM

Alright Ill go with the 16GB instead. Should I get faster than 1600 or is 1600 good?
October 7, 2012 12:28:58 AM

hthorntonp7 said:
Alright everyone, this is where all my research and thought has lead me:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jnzg

What are your thoughts on this system??


16GB not 32.

Why Ultimate?

You probably don't need a 4GB card but that's your choice.

Get the d-14

1600 MHz should be fast enough. You could bump it up a bit faster if you want if the price is similar, but make sure the latency is still at 9.

October 7, 2012 4:55:22 AM

hthorntonp7 said:
If I do SLI/Crossfire will 750W be enough or should I get the 850W version? And sorry typo. Meant sound card.


I run two Asus 670 non top edition on a 750 powersupply no problem. And both my Asus cards have had no problems at all--they have great cooling. I'm sure there are plenty of good non Reference 670 brands out there :) 
October 7, 2012 4:56:35 AM

RAM - GSkill Ripjaws X Series 2x8GB (16GB) DDR3 1600 Cas 9 - $89.99
I'm not sure why I put Ultimate but I'll probably do Professional.
I'm looking for a graphics card that preferably has at least 3 diplay ports; I am open to suggestions.
D-14 doesn't look as nice and I want the system to look nice because the Switch 810 has a nice large window. Is there a reason you say to go with the D-14?
Thanks for the TONS of feedback on my build! I really appreciate it!!
October 7, 2012 5:18:01 PM

hthorntonp7 said:
RAM - GSkill Ripjaws X Series 2x8GB (16GB) DDR3 1600 Cas 9 - $89.99
I'm not sure why I put Ultimate but I'll probably do Professional.
I'm looking for a graphics card that preferably has at least 3 diplay ports; I am open to suggestions.
D-14 doesn't look as nice and I want the system to look nice because the Switch 810 has a nice large window. Is there a reason you say to go with the D-14?
Thanks for the TONS of feedback on my build! I really appreciate it!!


That RAM is fine, any 1600MHz or faster CAS 9 brand name RAM should do the trick. 2 X 8 let's you add more down the road, while 4 X 4 gives you the extra performance of quad-channel RAM.

Professional is a better choice. You could even bump it down to Premium, but I'm guessing you want Professional in case you upgrade to 32 GB of RAM.

Why do you need 3 display ports? Also are you going to use 3 monitors, a 120HZ monitor or a 2560 X 1440/1600? This will help me select a card for you.


The D-14 is excellent at cooling. The H100 is also very good, but it is very loud and somewhat overpriced. Most people suggest you do a real water-cooling loop or buy an air cooler. If you don't mind a little bit of noise, than you're going to be happy with the H100.

I would also check out the Thermaltake Water2.0 Extreme. Its a water-cooler than cools better than the H100 and is much quieter. Here's a review: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermaltake-WATE...


October 7, 2012 8:23:30 PM

Ya that's why I'm going with Professional. I really need some help chosing my graphics card (670 probably but need brand) and monitor. I would eventually like to go to 3 monitors but to start I will use 1 maybe 2 if I can fit it in the budget. How is the sound difference between the Water 2.0 Extreme and the D14?
October 7, 2012 8:53:04 PM


Look, I can fit 3 monitors in the budget:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jD7t

I can't post the link of the pic, but its pretty notable, were talking about tens of decibels.
October 7, 2012 9:37:37 PM

The first link doesn't work. Can you repost it please?
October 8, 2012 1:46:03 AM

i cant post the picture, but were talking tens of decibels
October 8, 2012 5:09:26 AM

Oh alright. How does the D14 compare to something smaller and not as hideous say as the 212 Evo??
October 8, 2012 2:09:35 PM

hthorntonp7 said:
Oh alright. How does the D14 compare to something smaller and not as hideous say as the 212 Evo??



Not as good. It all depends on how big of an OC you want. If your looking for like ~4 GHz, the 212 should be fine. For 4.5+, I think the Noctua, H100 and Water2.0 are your best bets.
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