Radeon 7770 OC vs 7850 vs Something else

[Vaidas B]

Hey guys, I'm building a new PC and I need a good graphics card tip.

Okay, so here's my setup (without the VGA)

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028&Tpk=PSU%20Corsair%20CX600%20V2%20600W
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128553&Tpk=Gigabyte%20GA-970A-DS3
Monitor resolution: 1920x1080
Use: Video games, maybe gameplay recording, animation and editing.
Budget: 200~360 USD.

(Full setup)
Thermaltake Commander MS-I
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz
Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5"
CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) (ganna add more ram later on, so 2x4gb now and 2x4 a bit later)
GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard (Took this for CrossFireX support)
SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100358VXL Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card (possibly dual of this later on, if the power supply can handle it)
Newegg.com - CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 V2 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply


I wanted to go with a 7770 OC, but now I simply have no idea what to go with, a friend recommended me the 7850, but I'm not sure about that one either. Any tips?

Thank you for your time.

 

[bigcyco1]

7770 AND 7850 are weak cards get a 7870 or 7950 $279.99 $259.99 after mail in rebate MSI R7870 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127662#top

 

[bigcyco1]

GPU:Best Card for $199.99 $189.99 after mail in rebate SAPPHIRE 11188-22-20G Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card (OC Edition)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102987#top

GPU: Best card for $279.99 $259.99 after mail in rebate MSI R7870 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127662#top

GPU:Best card for $349.99 $329.99 after mail in rebate MSI R7950 Twin Frozr 3GD5/OC Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127667#top

 

[Kamen_BG]

First.Your motherboard isnt good for overclocking at all!
If you can spend some extra money i highly recommend you buy this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131757
If not then the asrock one will do
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157280

Next up is the power supply.
The corsair one you listed is good enough for your build but there are much beter choices.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194102&Tpk=lepa%20550
This power supply can deliver 12.5% more power to the most important components in your system compared to the Corsair one you chose.

And now to answer your quiestion.
Ill give you a list of graphics card.The higher they are in the list, the better they perform.They are all the fastest in their price points.Thats the reason why im skipping the HD 7770 and other cards.

MSI HD 7950 Twin Frozr OC - 330 USD after MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127667

MSI HD 7870 Twin Frozr OC - 260 USD after MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127662

Zotac GTX 560 Ti AMP - 180 USD after MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500196&Tpk=gtx%20560%20ti%20amp

EVGA GTX 560 Superclocked - 130 USD after MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130664

 

[Vaidas B]

It might be worth to mention that I'd like something with Crossfire or SLi support (right now, my selected motherboard supports crossifre, so the GTX are kind of useless).

 

[nforce4max]

Not really unless you decided to not use the hack, there is a community hack that fools the nivdia drivers into thinking it is on a sli certified board. In reality all that it is just a simple script that edits the registry and one or two other things that gives the forceware suite a false chipset id.

 

[photonboy]

Crossfire and SLI have the micro-stutter issue. Most people that know about this issue just use single graphics cards (sometimes a second one dedicated to PhysX) but never SLI or Crossfire.

NVidia 660Ti:
The latest rumour is that these cards will launch THIS MONTH. You might consider holding off on the card or even your entire build (not sure if you've bought anything yet).

If you haven't bought anything yet (motherboard or CPU) then I'd highly recommend this instead:
- 1155 Z77 motherboard (Asrock has great value)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293
- i5-3570K CPU

About gaming:
Usually it's the graphics card that is the bottleneck. My GTX 680 DCU2 TOP card is about $560 and I can usually max out BF3 at 60FPS but sometimes it drops into the 50's. A lower-end card would have to drop the graphics quality.

On the other hand, Diablo 3 isn't very demanding and my HD5870 maxed everything at 1920x1080 and averaged 120FPS (though I synched to 60FPS because my monitor is 60Hz). Most current games fall somewhere in between these two games.

Batman Arkham City can be demanding and here's a tip. DISABLE DX11 for this game completely. It causes massive stuttering and they gave up trying to fix that.

For whatever this helps.

 

[nforce4max]

Crossfire and SLI have the micro-stutter issue. Most people that know about this issue just use single graphics cards (sometimes a second one dedicated to PhysX) but never SLI or Crossfire.

NVidia 660Ti:
The latest rumour is that these cards will launch THIS MONTH. You might consider holding off on the card or even your entire build (not sure if you've bought anything yet).

If you haven't bought anything yet (motherboard or CPU) then I'd highly recommend this instead:
- 1156 Z77 motherboard (Asrock has great value)
- i5-3570K CPU

About gaming:
Usually it's the graphics card that is the bottleneck. My GTX 680 DCU2 TOP card is about $560 and I can usually max out BF3 at 60FPS but sometimes it drops into the 50's. A lower-end card would have to drop the graphics quality.

On the other hand, Diablo 3 isn't very demanding and my HD5870 maxed everything at 1920x1080 and averaged 120FPS (though I synched to 60FPS because my monitor is 60Hz). Most current games fall somewhere in between these two games.

Batman Arkham City can be demanding and here's a tip. DISABLE DX11 for this game completely. It causes massive stuttering and they gave up trying to fix that.

For whatever this helps.

I've been running dual gpu rigs for the last 5 years and micro shutter is overblown as well an exaggerated issue. It usually doesn't occure often in dual gpu setups but is more common to tri and quad gpu sli and crossfire. The problem comes from that fact that the rendering profile used almost all the time now days is AFR due to DX being an issue when scaling beyond two gpus. Rendering each frame separately on each gpu in a tight but highly sensitive sequence and when one gpu lags behind or produces a duplicate frame it causes the shutter issue. So for most people out there it is usually in their favor to not go beyond having just two in their machines. SFR mode doesn't have the mircroshutter issue and scales much better than AFR but is limited to two gpus only and rarely used.