Help and Suggestions for Building New High End Gaming PC
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ghost101
September 25, 2012 3:13:37 PM
I am new to this, with novice knowledge of building a PC. I know and understand parts, but have yet had the experience of building the PC. I was hoping I could get some suggestions on how this build is? I went to CyberPowerPC and configured a system I wanted, and just copied the parts. Sure I can buy it from them, but I wanted to build it myself for the joy of the task and to save on the labor cost. So, what do you guys think? Did I miss anything? Need more of something? Etc. Please keep comments kind and helping.
Case - Thermaltake Commander Mid-Tower Gaming Case
Fans - Maximum 120MM Case Cooling Fans
Noise Reduction - Anti-Vibration Fan Mounts
CPU - AMD FX-8150 3.60 GHz Eight-Core AM3+ CPU 8MB L2 Cache & Turbo Core Technology
Graphics Card - AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card
Cooling Fan - Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)
Motherboard - CrossFireX/SLI] GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AMD 990FX Socket AM3+ ATX Mainboard w/ Ultra Durable™ 3, Dual Bios, On/Off USB Charge & 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB 3.0, SATA-III RAID, 4 Gen2 PCIe X16, 2 PCIe X1 & 1 PCI
Power Supply - 850 Watts - Cooler Master Silent Pro Gaming 80 Plus Power Supply
RAM - 16GB (8GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory
Hard Drive - 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD
Optical Drive - 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive
Operating System - Window 8 (release end of October)
WiFi - 802.11b/g/n 300 Mbps Wireless Card + External 2.4G 5 Dbi Omni-Directional Wireless Antenna
Thanks for reading / helping! It is very much appreciated!
Case - Thermaltake Commander Mid-Tower Gaming Case
Fans - Maximum 120MM Case Cooling Fans
Noise Reduction - Anti-Vibration Fan Mounts
CPU - AMD FX-8150 3.60 GHz Eight-Core AM3+ CPU 8MB L2 Cache & Turbo Core Technology
Graphics Card - AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card
Cooling Fan - Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)
Motherboard - CrossFireX/SLI] GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AMD 990FX Socket AM3+ ATX Mainboard w/ Ultra Durable™ 3, Dual Bios, On/Off USB Charge & 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB 3.0, SATA-III RAID, 4 Gen2 PCIe X16, 2 PCIe X1 & 1 PCI
Power Supply - 850 Watts - Cooler Master Silent Pro Gaming 80 Plus Power Supply
RAM - 16GB (8GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory
Hard Drive - 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD
Optical Drive - 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive
Operating System - Window 8 (release end of October)
WiFi - 802.11b/g/n 300 Mbps Wireless Card + External 2.4G 5 Dbi Omni-Directional Wireless Antenna
Thanks for reading / helping! It is very much appreciated!
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ghost101
September 25, 2012 3:26:42 PM
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you did a double post.
1; fx sucks for games
2: you dont need that much ram
3; my motherboard has a wifi card if you need one
4: you dont need that much wattage
5; you dont have a SSD which means your rig wont feel very fast
6:the d14 cooler cools better and quieter
7; lol you dont need that many fans
1; fx sucks for games
2: you dont need that much ram
3; my motherboard has a wifi card if you need one
4: you dont need that much wattage
5; you dont have a SSD which means your rig wont feel very fast
6:the d14 cooler cools better and quieter
7; lol you dont need that many fans
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ghost101
September 25, 2012 3:57:54 PM
1; fx sucks for games - what do you reccomend?
2: you dont need that much ram - How much do you suggest? 8GB?
3; my motherboard has a wifi card if you need one - How Much?
4: you dont need that much wattage - Would 850W be a better option?
5; you dont have a SSD which means your rig wont feel very fast - What exactly is SSD? New to that one.
6:the d14 cooler cools better and quieter - I will get that one
7; lol you dont need that many fans - Lol I will take out some!
2: you dont need that much ram - How much do you suggest? 8GB?
3; my motherboard has a wifi card if you need one - How Much?
4: you dont need that much wattage - Would 850W be a better option?
5; you dont have a SSD which means your rig wont feel very fast - What exactly is SSD? New to that one.
6:the d14 cooler cools better and quieter - I will get that one
7; lol you dont need that many fans - Lol I will take out some!
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ghost101
September 25, 2012 4:34:37 PM
What you posted in the link is something you built? I am not entirely interested in that built, thus why I am here to get sugggestions for my build. I do not want an intel i5 I prefer AMD. Thank you for letting me know I will save sticking with 8GB and a lower power supply. I do plan on building it myself, thus the reason for the post. One last question for you, is the SSD on the Ram, e.g. "8GB kinston SSD RAM". Sorry for the noob questions, but thats why I am here...
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excella1221
September 25, 2012 4:54:07 PM
The link he posted isn't something he built.. technically. It's a more convenient way of showing people who come here the stuff we suggest for their builds.
SSD and RAM are different things. SSD is a storage device like an HDD. There are more differences but I can't post them all right now.
As far as I know, the best gaming CPU from AMD at the moment is the Phenom X4 965, which isn't very high end. Don't get me wrong, I love AMD, but they are very behind on CPU technology compared to Intel. If ever they get to make a CPU though that can (at least) compete with the i5, I would definitely buy it.
Between the GTX 670 and the 7970, I would definitely go for the 7970. Just make sure you get the GHz edition.
SSD and RAM are different things. SSD is a storage device like an HDD. There are more differences but I can't post them all right now.
As far as I know, the best gaming CPU from AMD at the moment is the Phenom X4 965, which isn't very high end. Don't get me wrong, I love AMD, but they are very behind on CPU technology compared to Intel. If ever they get to make a CPU though that can (at least) compete with the i5, I would definitely buy it.
Between the GTX 670 and the 7970, I would definitely go for the 7970. Just make sure you get the GHz edition.
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well time to explain,
if a intel pentium g630 is on par with a fx 8150 in games, i really dont see the point of picking a AMD chip over a intel chip that costs just as much. if you want to though, you could later on pick the fx 8350 but there are no promises for it to perform anywhere near a i5.
8gb of ram just just 8gb of ram. just grab the set i suggested
a SSD is a solid state drive. its completely different from ram. the vertex 4 is my recommendation
if a intel pentium g630 is on par with a fx 8150 in games, i really dont see the point of picking a AMD chip over a intel chip that costs just as much. if you want to though, you could later on pick the fx 8350 but there are no promises for it to perform anywhere near a i5.
8gb of ram just just 8gb of ram. just grab the set i suggested
a SSD is a solid state drive. its completely different from ram. the vertex 4 is my recommendation
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excella1221 said:
The link he posted isn't something he built.. technically. It's a more convenient way of showing people who come here the stuff we suggest for their builds.SSD and RAM are different things. SSD is a storage device like an HDD. There are more differences but I can't post them all right now.
As far as I know, the best gaming CPU from AMD at the moment is the Phenom X4 965, which isn't very high end. Don't get me wrong, I love AMD, but they are very behind on CPU technology compared to Intel. If ever they get to make a CPU though that can (at least) compete with the i5, I would definitely buy it.
Between the GTX 670 and the 7970, I would definitely go for the 7970. Just make sure you get the GHz edition.
yeah but some people prefer the nvidia side given it has 3d physx (borderlands) and a bunch of other perks that amd cards dont enjoy.
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excella1221
September 25, 2012 5:03:53 PM
ghost101
September 25, 2012 5:20:03 PM
excella1221
September 25, 2012 5:23:23 PM
ghost101
September 25, 2012 5:42:55 PM
ghost101
September 26, 2012 11:52:08 AM
ghost101
September 26, 2012 12:17:00 PM
excella1221
September 26, 2012 12:44:05 PM
ghost101
September 26, 2012 12:45:33 PM
So based on the information I have gained from you guys, I redid my configuration. What do you think about this build?
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
I want this build for high end gaming, ultra graphics on top games (or close) but I also will have things on it like documents and other minor software. I plan to have 3-4 games installed at all times. How does this build look to you? How is the graphics card? And motherboard?
Also, how difficult is to build a PC? Since there are clearly no instructions and I am new would I be able to figure it out without damaging parts?
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
I want this build for high end gaming, ultra graphics on top games (or close) but I also will have things on it like documents and other minor software. I plan to have 3-4 games installed at all times. How does this build look to you? How is the graphics card? And motherboard?
Also, how difficult is to build a PC? Since there are clearly no instructions and I am new would I be able to figure it out without damaging parts?
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excella1221
September 26, 2012 12:50:20 PM
Everything looks great. I personally won't change a thing. 'cept maybe ad an SSD later.
Here are two great guides for building a PC:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274745-31-step-step-g...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-your-own-pc,2...
Here are two great guides for building a PC:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274745-31-step-step-g...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-your-own-pc,2...
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ghost101
September 26, 2012 1:07:11 PM
Thats a lift up on my hopes! Thank you, I think I understand fairly well how parts and softwares work. It is more of the plug this there and that here, type of thing, that has me worried about building it myself. Primarily getting the exact part I need. As everyone who builds a PC needs different parts for their own builds, and a tutorial can only show what they are doing
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excella1221
September 26, 2012 1:12:31 PM
ghost101
September 26, 2012 1:26:10 PM
Thanks excella1221 and TheBigTroll! Your help has been so great! I can not tell you how much I appreciate it!
Do you guys think I will have trouble with the assembly of the system I created in PCparts? Anything I may run into that you suggest I keep in mind? Since as I mentioned this is my first time building it myself lol.
I was also lookin for a cooler case, would a Cooler Master Storm Trooper Full Tower Gaming Case work just as well as what I have? Or better?
Do you guys think I will have trouble with the assembly of the system I created in PCparts? Anything I may run into that you suggest I keep in mind? Since as I mentioned this is my first time building it myself lol.
I was also lookin for a cooler case, would a Cooler Master Storm Trooper Full Tower Gaming Case work just as well as what I have? Or better?
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excella1221
September 26, 2012 1:39:59 PM
I'm sure you'll do fine. Just make sure to discharge yourself for any static every after holding components.
I like most of the Cooler Master cases. It's all on the matter of your needs and preference.
Here's a good break down of 3 Full Towers I would recommend: Click!
Out of those 3, I would get the HAF 932. Personal preference though.
The Storm Trooper just has so much drive bays that I'll probably never utilize in my lifetime. XD
I like most of the Cooler Master cases. It's all on the matter of your needs and preference.
Here's a good break down of 3 Full Towers I would recommend: Click!
Out of those 3, I would get the HAF 932. Personal preference though.
The Storm Trooper just has so much drive bays that I'll probably never utilize in my lifetime. XD
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ghost101
September 26, 2012 2:34:52 PM
ghost101
September 26, 2012 2:38:42 PM
Not sure how to "permalink" I was working fine a bit ago, either way here is the list of specs, anything you see that should be edited?
CPU
Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core
CPU Cooler
Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM
Motherboard
ASRock Z77 Extreme9 ATX LGA1155
Memory
G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600
Storage
OCZ Vertex 4 256GB 2.5" SSD
Video Card
Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB
Case
Antec Three Hundred Illusion ATX Mid Tower
Power Supply
Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V
Optical Drive
Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 3-Pack (64-bit)
CPU
Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core
CPU Cooler
Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM
Motherboard
ASRock Z77 Extreme9 ATX LGA1155
Memory
G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600
Storage
OCZ Vertex 4 256GB 2.5" SSD
Video Card
Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB
Case
Antec Three Hundred Illusion ATX Mid Tower
Power Supply
Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V
Optical Drive
Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 3-Pack (64-bit)
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1: reduce down to a i5 3570k. no performance increase going to a i7
2; the asus z77-v pro is a better motherboard.
3:id get a msi gtx670 power edition over a 7950 any day
4: there are better cases like the corsair carbide 500R or your storm trooper
5: the xfx xxx 750w is much better
6: i dont see the use of a 3pak
2; the asus z77-v pro is a better motherboard.
3:id get a msi gtx670 power edition over a 7950 any day
4: there are better cases like the corsair carbide 500R or your storm trooper
5: the xfx xxx 750w is much better
6: i dont see the use of a 3pak
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excella1221
September 26, 2012 2:47:27 PM
ghost101
September 26, 2012 3:15:19 PM
I still plan on having the i7, I am sure it will have its uses in the future. Not sure why they would make it without future use, lol. Is the nVidia msi GTX670 a "top of the line" graphics card?
Note: This is not for PURE gaming, just 70% of the build is for that reason alone. I still want to be able to run apps like MS Office and what not on it with no issues. Whats the points of an i7 when an i5 does the same things? Why do they make the i7, for what?
Note: This is not for PURE gaming, just 70% of the build is for that reason alone. I still want to be able to run apps like MS Office and what not on it with no issues. Whats the points of an i7 when an i5 does the same things? Why do they make the i7, for what?
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ghost101
September 26, 2012 3:16:56 PM
ghost101
September 26, 2012 3:25:19 PM
Here is the newer build based on what you said, also, what do you mean "the use of a 3pak"? Please understand i am not an expert I am new and seeking guidance, I do not know all terms and parts/software. I assume that has to do with the Windows 7 I picked, however as i mentioned I will be waiting for windows 8 so not to worried about that right now. More so worried about getting the proper parts required for high end gaming and basic office / personal use. e.g. I wanna be able to get my work done then play Skyrim on highest settings with no lag.
CPU
Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core
CPU Cooler
Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM
Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155
Memory
G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600
Storage
OCZ Vertex 4 256GB 2.5" SSD
Video Card
Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB
Case
Cooler Master Storm Trooper ATX Full Tower
Power Supply
XFX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V
Optical Drive
Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 3-Pack (64-bit)
Let me know if the parts you mentioned are here, and also why the GTX670 over the 7950 would be appreciated, I have heard reviews that the 3GB 7950 is superior to the GTX670 2GB. If you suggest this solely for 3D then I should mention again I do not use 3D and do not want to.
CPU
Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core
CPU Cooler
Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM
Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155
Memory
G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600
Storage
OCZ Vertex 4 256GB 2.5" SSD
Video Card
Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB
Case
Cooler Master Storm Trooper ATX Full Tower
Power Supply
XFX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V
Optical Drive
Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 3-Pack (64-bit)
Let me know if the parts you mentioned are here, and also why the GTX670 over the 7950 would be appreciated, I have heard reviews that the 3GB 7950 is superior to the GTX670 2GB. If you suggest this solely for 3D then I should mention again I do not use 3D and do not want to.
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excella1221
September 26, 2012 3:45:23 PM
I understand how you feel about the i7. I too will get it for my new build but simply because I like the fact it's "i7" and I don't mind wasting the extra cash. So I won't stop you anymore there.
The GTX 670 is high-end, yes. And it outperforms the 7950 quite a bit.
Regardless, the 7950 is still a great card. Do note though that the 3gb and 2gb don't really matter if you're on 1 monitor. VRAM is only ever utilized when multiple monitors come into play.
The GTX 670 is high-end, yes. And it outperforms the 7950 quite a bit.
Regardless, the 7950 is still a great card. Do note though that the 3gb and 2gb don't really matter if you're on 1 monitor. VRAM is only ever utilized when multiple monitors come into play.
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excella1221
September 26, 2012 3:47:56 PM
ghost101
September 26, 2012 4:09:25 PM
Ok, here is what I got from the partspicker site based on what you two have suggested. Also, should I get any compound glue or special tools? Or do I not need an unique tools for building this?
CPU
Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core
CPU Cooler
Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM
Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155
Memory
G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333
Storage
OCZ Vertex 4 256GB 2.5" SSD
Video Card
Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB
Case
Cooler Master Storm Trooper ATX Full Tower
Power Supply
XFX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V
Optical Drive
Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 3-Pack (64-bit)
CPU
Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core
CPU Cooler
Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM
Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155
Memory
G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333
Storage
OCZ Vertex 4 256GB 2.5" SSD
Video Card
Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB
Case
Cooler Master Storm Trooper ATX Full Tower
Power Supply
XFX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V
Optical Drive
Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 3-Pack (64-bit)
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ghost101
September 26, 2012 4:13:12 PM
Anything else you guys think I should change or swap out (aside for i7 and the operating system, I plan on getting Windows 8 in October so no need to buy 7).
And anything I may encounter when building for the first time you think I should know about (like the special tools I asked about) and things beginners may not know or be confused by?
And anything I may encounter when building for the first time you think I should know about (like the special tools I asked about) and things beginners may not know or be confused by?
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ghost101
September 26, 2012 5:28:03 PM
ghost101
September 26, 2012 5:29:39 PM
ghost101
September 26, 2012 6:36:12 PM
So you would say that this build will handle any high end games for a few years? (high end games at least 3 years from now). And you think this config is good and will not have any conflicts with assembly?
Is it safe to assemble each part as i aquire it? It will likely take 2 months for me to get all the money for the parts and i want to put each part on the system as I aquire them. Is it ok to leave parts assembled for some time without being finished. (I would not turn it on of course until completion). I am sure it will be fine, but I am a "ask and be sure" kind of girl and like to be safe, especially with expensive parts.
Last question before I begin my project, where do you often buy your parts? Amazon? Newegg? I am looking for the CHEAPEST cost for the parts. I am also interested in new parts only, nothing used. I do not like or use eBay/PayPal. With that stuff in mind any suggestions where to aquire the parts at the cheapest prices (shipping included).
Is it safe to assemble each part as i aquire it? It will likely take 2 months for me to get all the money for the parts and i want to put each part on the system as I aquire them. Is it ok to leave parts assembled for some time without being finished. (I would not turn it on of course until completion). I am sure it will be fine, but I am a "ask and be sure" kind of girl and like to be safe, especially with expensive parts.
Last question before I begin my project, where do you often buy your parts? Amazon? Newegg? I am looking for the CHEAPEST cost for the parts. I am also interested in new parts only, nothing used. I do not like or use eBay/PayPal. With that stuff in mind any suggestions where to aquire the parts at the cheapest prices (shipping included).
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it will play most high end games for 3 years at high settings.
if you are buying part by part, id suggest getting the following given prices dont flictuate as much
ram
cooler
case
power supply
optical drive
the rest should be bought when you see a very good deal
there are no conflicts with what i suggested
to your build
1: get ripjaws 1600mhz
2: get a msi power edition gtx670 over the asus. asus is overrated on their video cards
if you are buying part by part, id suggest getting the following given prices dont flictuate as much
ram
cooler
case
power supply
optical drive
the rest should be bought when you see a very good deal
there are no conflicts with what i suggested
to your build
1: get ripjaws 1600mhz
2: get a msi power edition gtx670 over the asus. asus is overrated on their video cards
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ghost101
September 27, 2012 11:14:54 AM
I didnt see a msi in the parts list, but will look again. To be honest I am feelin a bit nervous about building it myself. Kinda freaked out I will put lots of money into it and not be able to assemble it. Perhaps I would put the parts in the wrong places or the wrong plugs in the wrong slots, etc. I saw some tutorials, but I do not even know how/where to install any needed drivers and what not. For a first timer I think I am just feelin a bit overwhelmed...
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how to install drivers. go to manufactuers website and look for your model and download the newest ones. if you cant go on the internet, go to your motherboard CD and get the network driver
the msi card
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n670pe2gd5o...
the msi card
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n670pe2gd5o...
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ghost101
September 27, 2012 12:36:09 PM
excella1221
September 27, 2012 12:40:32 PM
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