I would like some feedback on this AMD build

[hutthutt12]

I am making a new PC and i have chosen these parts. If you can find anything better or the same, but cheaper, please let me know. I am making this a gaming build, and i prefer a build cheaper than $1100.

CPU: AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 3.6GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8150FRGUBOX
Price: $189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103960&Tpk=amd fx-8150

Motherboard: ASUS M5A97 R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
Price: $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131873

Video Card: GIGABYTE GV-N430-2GI GeForce GT 430 (Fermi) 2GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
Price: $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125411

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL10D-16GBXL
Price: $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231489

SSD (this will contain the OS and important stuff): Intel 330 Series Maple Crest SSDSC2CT120A3K5 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Price: $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167121

HDD (this will contain other games and junk): Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare
Drive
Price: $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533

Optical: HP 24X Multiformat DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black
SATA Model 1270i LightScribe Support
Price: $21.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827140041

Case: Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with Upgraded USB 3.0
Price: $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021

I also have to buy a monitor, keyboard, mouse, wifi card, and the OS.

NOTE: I don't know what kind of power supply to buy and any suggestions would be very helpful. I plan on overclocking the CPU to 4.5Ghz and if there you guys can tell me how to overclock the GPU then I might do that too. And if you think there is something that I might need please respond!



Thanks a lot!

 

[obsama1]

Can do a lot better.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ixM2

 

[hutthutt12]

Well it seems my build is $200 cheaper and looks like it can run just as well. And I know Intel CPUs are better than AMD, but i just prefer to use AMD because they are cheaper. I might also get liquid cooling. And my build is $761.92

 

[zloginet]

^^^ Agreed, you won't notice a different in 96% of games...

 

[zloginet]

I do think you need to get a bit better board then that Asus if you wish to overclock as 8150's are a bit phase hungary...

Also... You got to get a better video card my friend...

 

[viktorbkk]

FX-8350 is just around the corner...

 

[oxford373]

you said you want it for games and 7870 is 10 times faster than gt430.

 

[vanquished]

FX-8350 is just around the corner...

Indeed, and even if you didn't want the 8350, maybe the 8150 will drop in price (unless they stop stocking it )

 

[hutthutt12]

Thanks zloginet, I was wondering whether or not I should get a new MOBO and video card. But what I need is a suggestion on power supplies. And thank you oxford too!

 

[oxford373]

corsair 600w http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028

 

[hutthutt12]

Will this do as a motherboard?

ASUS M5A99X EVO AM3+ AMD 990X SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131754

 

[hutthutt12]

Thanks for the power supply! I just have to see if it is compatible with all of the new stuff I just looked at.

 

[oxford373]

yes it is compatible,and it would be enough for fx8150 and up to 300w graphics card

 

[obsama1]

I'd get an i5-3570K. Performs better.

 

[oxford373]

I'd get an i5-3570K. Performs better.

+1
if i5-3570K don't fit in budget i suggest 3470 for 200$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115234

 

[hutthutt12]

I am also currently looking into intel and i am deciding which one will be cheaper and perform almost the same.

 

[ashishdna20]

+1
if i5-3570K don't fit in budget i suggest 3470 for 200$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115234

+2

 

[oxford373]

CPU 3470 for 200$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115234&nm_mc=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r&cm_mmc=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r-_-Processors+-+Desktops-_-Intel-_-19115234
RAM 2X4GB 1600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148544
mother board: H77 for 70$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157303
or if you want something better Z77 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293
graphics card 7870 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161411
HDD 1tb 7200 seagate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840
PSU 600w http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=4176827&SID=19fwbj52f4upk
EDIT:Z77 mobo for 90$ to support and overclock ivy bridge CPUs http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157325

 

[zloginet]

*** Intel

 

[jtenorj]

Give me a little time to throw together a complete intel build that is cost competitive and spanks your amd build, ok?

 

[jtenorj]

I cheated a little. Many of the parts were already there from a previous build when I clicked the system build button on pcpartpicker. Here we go...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-2400 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z68A-G43 (G3) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($82.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.00 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($177.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: HP 1270i DVD/CD Writer ($26.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VH238H 23.0" Monitor ($129.98 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($90.95 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: AZIO Levetron Wired Gaming Keyboard ($41.19 @ NCIX US)
Mouse: Logitech G300 Wired Optical Mouse ($31.37 @ Amazon)
Total: $1088.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Room left over to get a cheap wifi adapter. Let's break the parts down in a little more detail, shall we?

If i7 2700K can do alright at stock on the intel cooler, so can i5 2400 overclocked to the same speeds. Using z68's overclocking prowess, you can oc this
cpu up to its max turbo speed, and get that and a turbo bin for all four cores. That's awesome for gaming, and beats a phenom II at 4.5, let alone an
FX at the same speed. You can drop in an unlocked ivy cpu after a bios update if you want to later on(trades blows with fx8350 whose price has yet to
be determined). I don't suggest liquid cooling to anyone when an inexpensive cooler like hyper 212 does fine(especially if you add a second fan) without
the risks of leakage, radiator fan failure or pump failure. An aftermarket cooler isn't needed at this time since we are using the intel cooler. Moving on...

An inexpensive and feature rich z68 mobo that can push this cpu a little and others a lot more. You can add a gt610(30 bucks) for physx if you want.

When your board runs this ram at 1333, it will stay nice and cool. It's also ready to go if you drop in an ivy cpu down the road. Plenty for gaming.

Seagate is fine for a storage drive(you don't need top speed for pics, music and video). Should last longer since it won't get abused like the ssd.

This ssd is a great drive as far as both performance and reliability are concerned. Same capacity as the one you specced as well.

This gpu runs circles around your gt430. It's also highly overclockable. Use MSI Afterburner to tweak and Furmark to test(both are free downloads).

I find the feature set of the Antec 300 Two superior to many more expensive cases. It's easily modded and upgraded with greater cooling if you want.

This is an excellent psu. Plenty for this Sandy(or an OCed ivy later) and a future upgrade to hd7970.

This is a retail dvd burner with all the software and cables you need to get going right away(mobo only comes with 2 sata cables. 1 for ssd, 1 for hdd)

1080p, good pixel density, fast, built in speakers, led backlight for lower power use and less weight to haul to lan parties, highly recommended.

What other os is there for gaming nowadays beside microsoft windows 7 home premium sp1 64bit oem?

Backlit keyboard with macro keys and a button that turns off the often cursed windows button.

Optical mouse with several programmable buttons(like fast dpi switch) for use with either hand.

That about does it. I hope you like this assembly of parts as much as I enjoyed putting them together for you.

 

[hutthutt12]

Thanks for your help I think that I will be going Intel then XD

 

[Nw333]

@jtenorj, so, your suggesting a locked CPU to go with a motherboard built for OCing? No no. H77 is what he needs. (Dont even know how you are even going to OC that 2400, since you CANT. Turbo boost is what your talking about? Its completely different from OCing.) Also, get Ivy Bridge, will last longer than Sandy and its more efficient. (i5 3450-3570 is where its at. )

You may get me wrong on this, but upgrading to Ivy LATER isnt going to be a good idea. Next year, Intels new Haswell chips will be released and there will be a new socket (1150) which will result in a new motherboard too.

 

[jtenorj]

Locked down i5s and i7s with turbo boost do have limited overclocking ability(up to the max turbo bin) on boards that support it(like z68). They don't have
fully unlocked multipliers like the k processors do, but you can push them a little higher than how they come from the factory. If by last longer you are
referring to ivy having pcie 3.0, that only matters when you are running sli/crossfire at eyefinity res(or whatever nvidia calls their version of the same).

I don't suggest sli/crossfire to anyone due to some games not supporting the tech, possible micro stuttering(which won't be the issue on 1 gpu that it would
be on 2 or more), more power, heat, and physical space, the need for a more expensive mobo that supports the tech, and more electronic waste in the end.

I don't like eyefinity or equivalent right now because of bezels mostly. I believe the cpu also has to work 3 times as hard to deliver basic geometry for the
gpu(s) to rasterize(when you game with a certain aspect ratio, the cpu/game knows that and(keeping track of all that is going on around) only send to the
gpu the basic geometry data required to fill the viewing arc that will be displayed on the monitor). In eyefinity(or equivalent), u triple the aspect ratio(most
people who game that way do so in 3x landscape side by side versus 3x portrait side by side) making the cpu have to figure and send 3x the data. That is
where pcie 3.0 comes in. On LGA1155, the cpu has either 16 lanes of version 2.0 or 16 lanes of version 3.0 internally which are split when running sli/cross-
fire. The bandwidth of 8 3.0 lanes is the same as 16 2.0 lanes so is little or no bottleneck, while a 2.0 setup has half the bandwidth to work with in the same
scenario. Actually, the video cards work a bit harder than is required since the total res they account for at eyefinity res(or equivalent) includes the bezels
between screens where no pixels will end up being rendered. It's just more data for the gpu(s) to sort out which drops performance even more.

If you are talking about the cpu itself, I think sandy will live longer than ivy since its fluxless solder will let heat more easily escape through the integrated
heat spreader(IHS) and cpu cooler compared to ivy with its crap thermal interface material(TIM) inside that keeps heat from escaping. Edit: ur rite about efficency.

Edit: It's been almost 2 years since sandy launched, and you won't have much trouble finding one of them.

@hutthutt12:Glad you liked my post. You should enjoy your intel build immensely.

 

[Nw333]

No, what I mean by Ivys lasting longer is that they are newer technology, despite being just a bit better than Sandy. Turbo Boost is very different from OCing, since you cannot OC locked processors. If anything, all you will get is ~.3 or so increase in clock speed, and you will NOT see much improvement.

Turbo Boost technology explained: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/forced-induction-intel-turbo-boost-works-technology-explained/
Check out this thread: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/302423-28-2400-overclocking