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September 26, 2012 3:44:19 AM

About to order the parts and assemble it myself, but before I commit to anything I'll post my list here just to make sure I haven't overlooked anything major. Here are a few games I'm looking to play that I can think of off-hand: Shogun 2: Total War, Minecraft, Star Wars the Old Republic, Skyrim, Portal 2. Also I'm going to overclock, but since I've never had a gaming PC before I don't know what that entails. If I can successfully build it, I'll worry about OCing then. Until then here are the components:

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $109
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $270
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $70
CD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $18
CPU Heatsink: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $35
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $190
CPU+CASE deal: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $312
SDRAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $40 (x2)
Keyboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $30
Monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $120

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September 26, 2012 4:13:52 AM

You can't OC that CPU its not a locked chip. You need to get a CPU that ends with a K, like a i5-2500k. Also no reason for a Z77 mobo, unless you you are going to go with a Ivy Bridge processor. Finally I would recommend a 660ti. On another note it's a whole lot easier to help if you fill out this. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/353572-31-build-upgra...
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September 28, 2012 5:20:37 PM

The 560ti will get you good FPS on games like Portal and Minecraft. You can still get good FPS on games like TOR and Skyrim with some settings reduced. The 660 does offer more performance than the 560ti as well as lower power consumption and temps.

The 560ti is cheaper by a bit, but yeah, I would go with the 660ti. Or, if you don't have an Nvidia bias, the 7950 is a great purchase. OCs like a champ and lets you turn up all the eye candy thanks to its higher memory bandwidth.

Your motherboard is way more than what you need imo. Get a cheaper motherboard and save some cash.

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504 $230 w/ $15 GC
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128546 $130 w/ Free RAM
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202006 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127697 $300 either way

The Mobo I listed actually ends up saving you $100 between its reduced price and the free RAM and has every feature you will probably ever need. SATA 3.0, USB 3.0, etc.

With the CPU you can order everything but the GPU for instance and use the gift card you get with the CPU towards it. I just saved you ~$115.

Alternatively, you can keep the processor in the Combo with the case, drop the CPU cooler and save ~$150. The i5-2500 is not going to be slow for a long time, and since you are not familiar with OCing anyway, may be a better purchase for you at this time. You could always upgrade to an i7 later and learn how to OC with that.
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September 30, 2012 12:17:47 PM

Bolivious said:
The 560ti will get you good FPS on games like Portal and Minecraft. You can still get good FPS on games like TOR and Skyrim with some settings reduced. The 660 does offer more performance than the 560ti as well as lower power consumption and temps.

The 560ti is cheaper by a bit, but yeah, I would go with the 660ti. Or, if you don't have an Nvidia bias, the 7950 is a great purchase. OCs like a champ and lets you turn up all the eye candy thanks to its higher memory bandwidth.

Your motherboard is way more than what you need imo. Get a cheaper motherboard and save some cash.

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504 $230 w/ $15 GC
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128546 $130 w/ Free RAM
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202006 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127697 $300 either way

The Mobo I listed actually ends up saving you $100 between its reduced price and the free RAM and has every feature you will probably ever need. SATA 3.0, USB 3.0, etc.

With the CPU you can order everything but the GPU for instance and use the gift card you get with the CPU towards it. I just saved you ~$115.

Alternatively, you can keep the processor in the Combo with the case, drop the CPU cooler and save ~$150. The i5-2500 is not going to be slow for a long time, and since you are not familiar with OCing anyway, may be a better purchase for you at this time. You could always upgrade to an i7 later and learn how to OC with that.

Thanks for all this great info. Though I must ask; you mentioned "if" I had an Nvidia bias. I haven't researched this stuff long enough to see why anyone would be biased against Nvidia. I like that 15$ GC, and it seems like a really nice card, but should I be wary of Nvidia? Also you said the mobo had free RAM. I don't see any bundle deal with that item.

I think I'll go with that cheaper CPU and drop the CPU+Case bundle. Will save money on the whole, and I am interested in learning to OC on this first build. Also for the purposes of gaming is it beneficial to go heavy with the CPU. I had considered Ivy Bridge when it first came out, but figured I'd be spending too much money, and now it would be money I would have spent on a more expensive mobo, which would make the CPU more worth the extra money than the mobo. One last thing. You mentioned dropping the CPU cooler. Is it unnecessary with this build?
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September 30, 2012 2:12:19 PM

Well the only reason I mentioned that is because there are A LOT of people on any forum that are will tell you that Don't is the only to go or that AMD is the only way to go. You know, fanboys. I was just pointing out your AMD option available in the similar price range.

With gaming, having a quad core like an i5 or i7 will get you the best results, but an i3 is a very very good performer in games. Most games don't utilize more than 2 cores and an i3 will outperform any AMD quad core that is currently available. Quad Cores give you better overall performance, especially with programs that can utilize more than 2 cores. Also, the K series i5 and i7 can be overclocked whereas none of the i3 processors can really be overclocked. Ivy bridge isn't that much more expensive than Sandy Bridge, offer a bit of a performance increase and should run cooler. However, if you are looking to save here and there, getting a sandy bridge i5 2500k is no slouch. I got one right before Ivy Bridge came out and have no regrets.

Don't overspend on the mobo, stay somewhere under $150. I like MSI but the Gigabyte you chose and ASRock are also really good brands to look at too. The motherboard I listed had a deal with free RAM, guess it expired. Sorry.

I was saying that if you don't overclock, that you don't need the cooler. However, if you plan to overclock, you will need an aftermarket cooler.

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October 1, 2012 4:27:58 PM

On the initial thread I made, months back I got a lot of "AMD FTW," so I naturally assumed AMD was to the go-to brand. Again thanks for that tip on the Nvidia card. Think I'll go with the 7950. Regardless of that deal expiring it still looks like a nice mobo, and there's a 15$ rebate on the thing at least. Gonna take your advice on the CPU as well. Hopefully it'll stay on the gaming curve for a few years. Think I'll start ordering the parts today.

And thanks for all the help. Until a few months ago I literally had no information about this stuff. Been more than a bit daunting trying to learn some things.

Also looking to get a wireless card. Will this work?

Been looking at cases, and I can't decide on any. I'd like one with more than one fan but also one that would be forgiving to someone who has never assembled a computer before.
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October 3, 2012 9:37:53 PM

Thanks for the info on the wireless USB. By the way am I okay with the Intel CPU and mobo with the Radeon AMD 7950? Or do only CPU's and mobos have to match brands?
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October 3, 2012 10:00:44 PM

The only thing that needs to match is the socket on your motherboard. You can mix and match Intel CPUs with Radeon GPUs.
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October 3, 2012 10:16:24 PM

Okay, thanks. Load off my mind.
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October 12, 2012 8:19:51 PM

Just assembled the thing and tried to power it on. It turns on for a second and then shuts off. Unplugged all the fans, and it does the same thing. None of my components have changed, and the PSU is 700W. Is this a power thing?
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October 12, 2012 8:25:22 PM

Sounds like you may have something either not plugged in or not plugged in all the way to me. Check all of your connections again and try to power it up.
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October 12, 2012 8:59:01 PM

The PSU plug to the motherboard was not securely in, so I secured it and also checked the front panel power button connector which is fine, but I get the same issue. The fans spin and the LEDs light up for less than a second and then turn off. I have no clue if this is a bad PSU, which I very much doubt given it was new out of the box or if I somehow managed to fry the CPU or break the motherboard during assembly.
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October 13, 2012 12:17:29 AM

Okay. Working now. Forgot the aux power plug.
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October 13, 2012 6:29:27 PM

Right on man. Good luck and happy gaming!
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October 13, 2012 8:03:15 PM

Not sure if I installed my HDD correctly. When the computer starts up I get this message:

"Reboot and select a proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press any key"

I'm trying to follow my motherboard's instructions for setting up things in BIOS, but I can't get to the motherboard's BIOS screen. I see the screen blink for a second, but then it gives me that message. I've tried inserting Windows 7 and my motherboard's recovery disc, but they don't bring me to BIOS. I've also tried holding down delete as the manual states or F2 like I read somewhere else while the computer boots, but still no BIOS. Have I installed my HDD incorrectly to like the wrong SATA port or something?
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