CPU or APU game rig help

[unekmike]

hi i am wanting to build a new gaming rig with the best specs as i can possibly get for my price range. i have a few ideas in mind of how i would like to build it but i have some serious questions about some of the CPUs, APUs, and motherboards

i have been told by so many people to go with this build, then i have others tell me not to. so i have no idea what is the best way but his is what i have been looking at.

AMD A10 trinity 5800k APU with the ASRock FM2A85X Extreme6 FM2 AMD A85X motherboard and the SAPPHIRE HD 7870xt with boost video card.

now i know that the AMD A10 has intigrated graphics that i will not be using, but the motherboard has great features and also has onboard graphics and it has an instant overclock for around 15% increase in performance.

but i have had people telling me that they are weak processors and to go with an FX series and vice-versa. they have also told me that i should only use the A10 APU if i am going to use the integrated graphics, but i am going to have a pretty decent video card so why cant i use it with the video card? i mean if something happened to the video card then i could fall back onto the integrated graphics right? or is that a bad idea??

or should i just go with the AMD FX6100 and the ASROCK 970 extreme 4 with the 7870xt graphics card??

i really just dont know what is the best way to go.. so any help would be greatly appreciated

OR if anyone knows a better processor and motherboard set up for the same price then please let me know i can only spend $130 on a processor and about $115 on a motherboard

so please give me some suggestions and advice, thanks

 

[djangoringo]

If you're going with a 7870 XT, no point in getting the amd apus, they're slower and they don't have l3 cache.
If you want an amd cpu get the FX-6300 and a motherboard with 970 chipset.
The FX-6300 is at 130$ in newegg after promo code or in amazon.
A motherboard like this one is suffice : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130637
Or the extreme 3/4 from asrock.

Another option is to get the i5-3470 and a b75 motherboard.
The i5 : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=72279&promoid=1332
The board : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157335

Total : 235$
It fits the budget.

 

[butremor]

for gaming i support i5 build

 

[unekmike]

If you're going with a 7870 XT, no point in getting the amd apus, they're slower and they don't have l3 cache.
If you want an amd cpu get the FX-6300 and a motherboard with 970 chipset.
The FX-6300 is at 130$ in newegg after promo code or in amazon.
A motherboard like this one is suffice : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130637
Or the extreme 3/4 from asrock.

Another option is to get the i5-3470 and a b75 motherboard.
The i5 : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=72279&promoid=1332
The board : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157335

Total : 235$
It fits the budget.

awesome thanks, i am going to go with the FX6300 but i have to motherboards in mind, which of these would you recommend? they are both 970 chipsets

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157262

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131873

and will both of these boards work with this RAM? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231518

 

[pauls3743]

Integrated graphics - all you need to know is that all of the mainstream Intel (lga1155) processors have it, the low-end AMD processors have it and it will be disabled by default when you plug in a seperate graphics card.

CPU/mobo combo - Intel. The processor is simply faster and more powerful, it also uses less energy than the closest AMD equivalent (if you can find one).

The only question left is, does the suggested intel cpu/mobo combo give you the features you're looking for? Performance features don't count as the intel will simply blow the amd out of the water.

 

[djangoringo]

awesome thanks, i am going to go with the FX6300 but i have to motherboards in mind, which of these would you recommend? they are both 970 chipsets

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157262

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131873

Asrock extreme 4, you might consider the i5-3470, it's a better gpu and with lower power consumption, yes, it will have a lower b75 mobo to fit the price, but it will not restrain the cpu, it has a pcie 3.0 slot and a sata III port and other stuff.
But if you want amd cpu, get the fx-6300 and the extreme 4.

 

[rds1220]

There is no point in getting an APU if you are going to be getting a fairly high-end dedicated graphics card. The fact is that while the APU's integrated graphics are strong the CPU core is slower and not as powerful as the Piledriver and Intel CPU's.
You also mentioned the 6100 and I would avoid that like the plauge. The Bulldozer were/are horrible processors. They were slow, ran hot, and sucked power. They couldn't beat Intel in gaming benchmarks and they couldn't even beat out the Phenom II that it was suppose to replace.

I would go with a lower end I5 and a cheaper Z77 motherboard.

 

[unekmike]

Asrock extreme 4, you might consider the i5-3470, it's a better gpu and with lower power consumption, yes, it will have a lower b75 mobo to fit the price, but it will not restrain the cpu, it has a pcie 3.0 slot and a sata III port and other stuff.
But if you want amd cpu, get the fx-6300 and the extreme 4.

ok i have decided i am going to go with the extreme 4 even though the bios on the ASUS look much nicer and easier to use. but i have one question about the memory for the extreme 4

it says it supports DDR3 2100(OC) / 1866(OC) / 1800(OC) / 1600(OC) / 1333 / 1066 / 800
what would be the best ram i can use with this?

i have been looking at the g skill sniper series 8gb 2x4gb 2133. wont the board make the ram 1600 by default? if it does can i just make it close to around 2000 with the 2133? i would buy 1866 and 1800 are more expensive and i can only spend around 50 bucks for 8 gb of RAM

 

[CDdude55]

ok i have decided i am going to go with the extreme 4 even though the bios on the ASUS look much nicer and easier to use. but i have one question about the memory for the extreme 4

it says it supports DDR3 2100(OC) / 1866(OC) / 1800(OC) / 1600(OC) / 1333 / 1066 / 800
what would be the best ram i can use with this?

i have been looking at the g skill sniper series 8gb 2x4gb 2133. wont the board make the ram 1600 by default? if it does can i just make it close to around 2000 with the 2133? i would buy 1866 and 1800 are more expensive and i can only spend around 50 bucks for 8 gb of RAM

According to newegg that board is DDR3 2133(OC) / 1866(OC) / 1600 / 1333 / 1066.

So if you were to get those GSkill sticks that are at 2133MHz it will default itself to a lower speed and you'll have to clock them higher manually in your BIOS and sure you can just clock it to 2000MHz if you want. An extra 133MHz is nothing really.

 

[djangoringo]

ok i have decided i am going to go with the extreme 4 even though the bios on the ASUS look much nicer and easier to use. but i have one question about the memory for the extreme 4

it says it supports DDR3 2100(OC) / 1866(OC) / 1800(OC) / 1600(OC) / 1333 / 1066 / 800
what would be the best ram i can use with this?

i have been looking at the g skill sniper series 8gb 2x4gb 2133. wont the board make the ram 1600 by default? if it does can i just make it close to around 2000 with the 2133? i would buy 1866 and 1800 are more expensive and i can only spend around 50 bucks for 8 gb of RAM

Just get a dual channel kit of 2x4GB 1600 mhz, it will be at 1600 mhz default, this one is cheap and good for overclock : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148662

Review : http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-detail/crucial-ballistix-sport-series-8gb-kit-4gbx2-ddr3-pc3-12800-1600mhz/11/