What is better the 7970 GHz or Palit GTX 670 Jetstream?

[mark12000]

Ok so that is the question, which one is better for games like Battlefield 3, Skyrim, etc.

I DON'T want fan boys I want FACT a link, reason, or some sort of explanation.

Thanks, Mark

 

[Gate9er]

Hi

Which 7970 are you comparing with?

Thanks

 

[bigcyco1]

Well hate to break the bad news to you but most reply's your going to get are going to be blanket statements with no proof whatsoever or fanboy related but the correct answer is depending on what res monitors one will be better than the other basically they both essentially the same in performance overall. Depending on which games you intend to play, one will perform better than the other. The GTX 670 will perform better in your preferred game-types (BF3, GTA IV, open world games like Skyrim and Fallout 3). It's also considerably quieter, and allows gaming with PhysX and Adaptive VSync.
http://hardocp.com/article/2012/04/16/nvidia_adaptive_vsync_technology_review/
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970_GHz_Edition/27.html

 

[bigcyco1]

Putting the specially binned 7970 Ghz against the specially binned Asus 670 TOP...its 999 fps at $0.42 per frame for the 670 TOP and 952 for the 7970 Ghz at $0.53 per frame...that's 26% more $ per frame for the 7970 Ghz...not to mention more noise and more power draw on the 7970.

TechPoweUp gives the 7970 Ghz Edition an 8.5 rating
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970_GHz_Edition/33.html

TechPoweUp gives the 670 TOP an 10.0 rating, the only 10.0 rating ever
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_II/33.html

Quote :

Overall the ASUS GTX 670 Direct CU II is the best card I ever tested.I simply can't find anything wrong with it.

 

[mark12000]

Hey thanks for the great info on the cards and fast reply! Would you know of any australian companys/sites that sell the GTX 670 ASUS TOP? Or any american sites that ship australia where its worth the postage and handling?

 

[nacos]

The 7970ghz ed is the best single gpu you can buy right now and beats even the gtx 680 in nearly every game.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7970-ghz-edition-review-benchmark,3232.html
Bigcyo is comparing a reference 7970 ghz to a non reference gtx 670. Please check out the sapphire toxic 7970 ghz edition 6gb.

 

[bigcyco1]

$599.00 @ Scorptec)

 

[bigcyco1]

The 7970ghz ed is the best single gpu you can buy right now and beats even the gtx 680 in nearly every game.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7970-ghz-edition-review-benchmark,3232.html
Bigcyo is comparing a reference 7970 ghz to a non reference gtx 670. Please check out the sapphire toxic 7970 ghz edition 6gb.

it's much more money hardly worth it for him the 670 is better bang for buck and for the games he intends to play the 670 is the way to go

 

[motorneuron]

The 7970 GHz edition probably isn't the best comparison to any 670. The vanilla 7970 can achieve essentially the same performance as the GHz edition if you overclock it; the GHz is for people who are either insane OCers (and want the heavily customized cards) or don't want to do any of their own OCing. Also, the reference GHz edition is a bad design, but since nobody is actually going to use that design, it's silly to compare the reference to custom cards.

The 670 is a little cheaper and definitely more efficient. It's also better in some games. The 7970 is superior at resolutions above 1080p. So if you're going for 1080p, I'd say pick based on which games you play. But if you're going above 1080p, go for a 7970. I would not bother with a GHz edition; just get a non-reference cooler version of the normal card.

edit: I feel like I post this every day, but check out the benchmarks that anandtech did in a review of the heavily-customized 680 Classified. It includes benchmarks for the most recent drivers from both manufacturers. You can see that the 7970 is more competitive than it was at the time the 670 and 680 launched, and especially at higher resolutions, it tends to dominate. That's the effect of the 384-bit memory bus and 3GB of VRAM. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6096/evga-geforce-gtx-680-classified-review/5 and the next page, http://www.anandtech.com/show/6096/evga-geforce-gtx-680-classified-review/6

These are not huge differences, so the 670 is not the "wrong" choice. It's not what I would get, though.

 

[nacos]

My gigabyte windforce x3 7970 (not ghz) at a maximum overclock (1300/1800) overpowers my friends gtx 670 ftw at 1273/1634 even in bf3 at 1080p which ie why I hate stock speed benchmarks because of how incredibly well Tahiti gpus overclock. Of course, neither my 7970 nor my friends 670 ever went below 60 fps in bf3 @ 1080p so the buck stops at the 670 for bf3 on ultra @1080p

 

[bigcyco1]

I will quote another member and i totally agree with him Your not going to get anymore complete a answer sorry but that's NOT going to happen and fanboys will be fanboys so i suggest you don't waste your time. Quote : matto17secs wrote :


It's understandable that you would be confused. There are a few issues: 1) People are going to make claims without backing it up with proof, 2) People make blanket statements, when the reality is that certain games favor certain hardware, 3) People make a few FPS advantage seem like a "win", when it usually falls within the margin of error and makes no difference in terms of performance.


Your best bet it to always do your own research using the many review websites and don't always believe everything reported by random anonymous posters on a public forum.


The correct answer is they are both essentially the same in performance overall. Depending on which games you intend to play, one will perform better than the other.The GTX 670 will perform better in your preferred game-types (BF3, GTA IV, open world games like Skyrim and Fallout 3). It's also considerably quieter, and allows gaming with PhysX and Adaptive VSync.

 

[nacos]

:O
Matto17secs is a huge nvidia fanboy though...

 

[mark12000]

Ok thank you all for the information im kinda leaning toward the gtx 670 because i know how easy it can be updated etc... But do you know when the asus direct cu top is going to be released?

 

[bigcyco1]

Ok thank you all for the information im kinda leaning toward the gtx 670 because i know how easy it can be updated etc... But do you know when the asus direct cu top is going to be released?

it has been released already http://pcpartpicker.com/mr/scorptec/asus-video-card-gtx670dc2t2gd5

 

[mark12000]

it has been released already you can get it for $599.00 @ Scorptec)

on scrptec.com.au it says ETA unknown. Also would this one be better?: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1387&products_id=20324 which is the GTX 670 Palit Jetstre

 

[bigcyco1]

This is the next best 670 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1387&products_id=20776

 

[bigcyco1]

Quote : MSI's GTX 670 Power Edition uses the famous Twin Frozr IV cooler from the MSI Lightning and comes with a large clock speed boost out of the box, making its default clock speed even higher than GTX 680 stock clocks. MSI is asking a $30 price premium for their card, which doesn't look unreasonable, given the improved cooling and higher clocks.TechPoweUp gives The MSI GTX 670 Power Edition an 9.7 rating
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_670_Power_Edition/

 

[mark12000]

So you think that one would be best one to get pccasegear

 

[bigcyco1]

So you think that one would be best one to get pccasegear

Yes i do and if i could afford it i buy it personally

 

[mark12000]

Thank you very much for all your helpi will probably get the twin frozr when i get the money.

 

[bigcyco1]

So you think that one would be best one to get pccasegear

If you wanted to go cheaper i recommend this one it's not as good though http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1387&products_id=20330

 

[mark12000]

Best answer selected by mark12000.

 

[bigcyco1]

Thank you very much for all your helpi will probably get the twin frozr when i get the money.

No problem! Your very welcome mate.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

Here's the numbers at 1920 x 1200, for the Asus 670 TOP and the 7970 Ghz Edition ..... you decide:

7970 Ghz Edition
Alan Wake 93.5
AvP 68.3
Batman Arkham City 96.4
BF3 72.3
BattleForge 162.3
CoD4 181.5
Civilization 5 86.3
Crysis 58.3
Crysis 2 69.0
Dirt 3 210.4
Dragon Age II 65.1
Hard Reset 97.0
Metro 2033 35.5
Stalker CoP 102.0
Starcraft 2 114.7
Shogun 2 57.7
Skyrim 75.9
WoW 117.0
Total 1763.2
Cost per frame = $ 0.28

670 DCII Cu TOP
Alan Wake 77.8
AvP 53.0
Batman Arkham City 90.7
BF3 72.9
BattleForge 129.9
CoD4 223.1
Civilization 4 85.9
Crysis 55.4
Crysis 2 67.4
Dirt 3 229.4
Dragon Age II 67.7
Hard Reset 92.4
Metro 2033 28.7
Stalker CoP 99.2
Starcraft 2 113.3
Shogun 2 62.4
Skyrim 79.1
WoW 142.5
Total 1770.8
Cost per frame = $ 0.24

The 670 TOP is $40 cheaper, edges out the 7970Ghz by a small but insignificant margin, but has a 13% lower cost per frame. If ya want a 670, the **one** to get is the Asus. While many non-reference cards add an improved cooler, few have a factory heavily modified PCB, with an efficient VRM design to produce low temperatures, improved voltage regulation circuitry, much better CHiL controller , specially binned chips and voltage control and monitoring support that ya won't find on most other non-reference cards. Those are some of the reasons you'll see it get a 10.0 rating at techpowerup, something no other card has ever attained.

Also compare here with the 670's listed best 1st:

10.0 Rating Asus 670 TOP
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_II/33.html

9.8 rating Gigabyte 670
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GeForce_GTX_670_Windforce/33.html

9.7 Rating Palit Jetstream 670
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_GTX_670_Jet_Stream/33.html

9.7 rating MSI Twin Frozr IV
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_670_Power_Edition/33.html

9.6 Rating Zotac AMP 670
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_670_Amp_Edition/33.html

8.5 rating 7970 Ghz Edition
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970_GHz_Edition/33.html

At higher resolution, I'd look at the 7970 tho

 

[bigcyco1]

:O
Matto17secs is a huge nvidia fanboy though...

Is he i didn't know that what makes you think so?