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September 27, 2012 12:05:07 PM

Hello Everyone!

I'm about to buy a completely new rig which will replace my 8 year old PC (with some parts being 10 years old), and even though I made some research, I would like to hear the opinions and recommendations of others too, so please help me with my first build. :) 

Usually, I will use it for gaming (MMORPG, FPS, RTS)>surfing the net (especially youtube)>watching HD movies.
Since my previous PC has held out for so long, I plan to use this new one for at least 5-6 years too, so longevity is important.

Below you will find some specifications and my questions.


Approximate Purchase Date: in late October (about 3-4 weeks)

Budget Range: Around 1,000 $, with a maximum of 1,150 $
(Please recommend alternatives whenever you can, since the prices are not always the same in my country as the ones on newegg, due to tax)

No new monitor, OS, keyboard or mouse is needed, only the PC.
(I'm using a Samsung T24A350 monitor with 1920x1080 native resolution.
Will use Windows 7 as OS)

Parts Preferences: Only Intel CPU and NVIDIA graphics card recommendations please.
I don't plan to overclock but maybe I will use SLI in the future.



Here are the parts I have already decided on (or narrowed down to a few);

CPU;
Intel Core i5-3570 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I read that the stock fan isn't great, so should I purchase an aftermarket CPU fan? (is there something nice under 40$ ?)


Motherboard;
Z77;
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

H77;
ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP LGA 1155 Intel H77
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
ASUS P8H77-V LGA 1155 Intel H77
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I can't make up my mind about the motherboard.
I won't overclock and maybe I'm better off if I skip SLI and rather replace my GPU in 2 years for a new technology product?
What else would I loose beside OC and SLI if I would go with the H77?


Graphics card:
GeForce GTX 660 (the newer, non -Ti version)
Some of them go for 280$, whereas the
ASUS GTX660-DC2O-2GD5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
goes for 310$. Is it really worth the plus 30 bucks?
Which non-Ti GTX 660 is the best?


Ram:
8GB at least?
I read 1600MHz is recommended, but should I go any higher?
Which option is better - to buy a single 8GB or 2x4 GB? (Both of them are equally priced, starting around 45$)


HDD: at least 1TB, will check later, depending on which shop I will choose
ODD: some Blu-ray writer, choice depends on shop supply
SSD: I don't plan to buy one yet.


PSU
Would I need a different PSU for a H77, non-OC, non-SLI build and another for Z77 with both features?
As stated above, longevity is important, so if I might place some new parts in the future, the PSU should (be still working fine and) be able to get enough power to the new units.
I was looking at this one, randomly;
Cooler Master GX-Lite 700W
http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6790
Costs about 85$, is it any good? (strange that it isn't listed on newegg).


Case;
Should have a front USB 3.0 bracket, any more extras (audio, mic) is welcome.
I guess it needs 1 or 2 cooling fans also.
The appearence doesn't have to be too flashy, there is no need for a lot of neon lights.
Does something decent with the mentioned attributes exist around 45~50$?


I think that's all for now, I'm looking forward to your ideas and thanks a lot in advance!
If I messed up something or more info is needed, please tell me. :) 
September 27, 2012 2:09:28 PM

To answer some of your points. If you don't want an overclockable processor, and you don't intend to have a 3 monitor set-up, for surround vision, probably your best bet is i5-3550 processor and Asus P8H77-v motherboard. The stock fan is fine, so there's no NEED for aftermarket fan. The only slight advantage, they give, is slightly quieter operation. OC and SLi is all you lose with H77.
8GB (2x4GB) is ideal. 1600 MHz C9 DDR3. It's a good idea to use low profile RAM, just in case you do want to fit aftermarket cooler.
You don't need any more than 500w. Get 550w, if you want, for a bit in hand. Seasonic, XFX, Antec, PC Power & Coooling, Corsair are all good makes.
For case, if you want decent quality, that will last Corsair Carbide take some beating, but, of course, what YOU LIKE is just as important.
September 27, 2012 3:53:11 PM

This allows you to add another one of those cards later on in SLI. Like malbluff stated, there's no reason to get the 3570K if you don't plan on over clocking.


http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Three-Hundred-Two-Gaming/dp... $59.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Antec Three Hundred Two Gaming Case, Black 2 x 3.0 USB front panel ports

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-80PLUS-Certified-Modular-... $86.00 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair CX 750 Watts 80PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V/EPS12V Power Supply CP-9020015-NA

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $306.98 save: $13.00
Intel Core i5-3470 Ivy Bridge 3.2GHz (3.6GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637i53470
ASRock Z77 Extreme3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $38.99 FREE SHIPPING
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-PCI-Express-Displayport-... $229.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 OC 2GB GDDR5 PCI-Express 3.0 DVI-I/DVI-D/HDMI/Displayport SLI Ready Graphics Card GV-N660OC-2GD
Core Clock 1032MHz
Boost Clock 1111MHz
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September 28, 2012 12:09:43 PM

Thanks for the thoughts guys.

No, I don't intend to use 3 monitors, will use only 1.

Alright, I will choose 2x4 GB ram then.

Corsair Carbide is a bit expensive for me.
In the meantime I found this case, which looks quite nice, would you recommend it or leave it?
Cooler Master K350
http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6862
Costs about 49$.
(Yes, I know, it's a bit flashy, but I don't mind this much - edited first post)


Why_Me;
I picked the non-K variant of the core i5 3570.
Thank you for your recommendations.

I found a site which lists all of the Core Clock/Boost Clock and Effective Memory Clock rates of all GTX 660 cards.
Should I choose the one which has the highest rate then? (I really don't know which would be the best)
Because, according to the clock rates, the
MSI N660 TF 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 660 2GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
is a bit better than
ASUS GTX660-DC2O-2GD5 GeForce GTX 660 2GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
yet, the MSI costs 280$ and the ASUS 310$, so where is the difference in worth?
September 28, 2012 12:59:36 PM

Where are you, is that case available. Note it's only got one fan, so you are probably going to need additional, which doesn't make it quite so cheap. Both of those GTX 660's are good. Doubt the Asus is worth $30 more. If you are using Asus, for mobo, I tend to feel there is a slight advantage to common manufacturer for mobo and GPU. Not something to waste a lot of money on, though.
October 17, 2012 1:03:08 PM

Alright, here is my final build, please share your thoughts about it;

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(Will not OC yet, so I will use the stock fan for now)

Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics card: MSI GeForce GTX660 2GB GDDR5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4) CL9 low profile
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200rpm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ODD: LG BH10LS38 Blu-ray writer
http://www.lg.com/uk/dvd-blu-ray-drives/lg-BH10LS30-blu...

PSU: FSP Raider 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Antec Three Hundred Two
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


(Maybe an SSD in the future and SLI too)

Thank you for your comments! :) 
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