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How important is CPU in gaming?

Right now I have a A8-3870k with a 6670, I want to change the graphics card to something more powerful but I also wanted to change the CPU to the Phenom 965 Black Edition. But if I want to change the CPU, I'd have to change the motherboard to and that is too much to change. Is it really much an upgrade from an A8-3870 to the 965BE? By the way the A8 can overclock, I have the hyper 212 for good cooling. How much fps would I be missing out on if I don't upgrade to the phenom 965? Is it really worth is to do a complete overhaul of my system to change the cpu? Isn't GPU the most important thing? I just want to get a new GPU and do a quick switch, if I change the cpu, I'd have to switch the cpu and motherboard and I'd have to install new drivers, etc.
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    I don't think it's worth going with the 965 be, if you want an amd cpu, get the FX-6300 or 8320/8350 or an intel i5.
    Or stay with your current cpu, it will not bottleneck a low end card, like a 7770 or 7850, from nvidia a 650 ti.
  2. djangoringo said:
    I don't think it's worth going with the 965 be, if you want an amd cpu, get the FX-6300 or 8320/8350 or an intel i5.
    Or stay with your current cpu, it will not bottleneck a low end card, like a 7770 or 7850, from nvidia a 650 ti.

    I'm planning on getting a 6850 or 7850, so comparing a A8-3870k with 6850 vs Phenom 965 BE with 6850, how much better is the phenom build and how much fps would I be losing going with the A8 build?
  3. getting a fx 4300 would be a best bet.

    a8 is mostly for htpcs and lower energy pcs.
  4. Very briefly..

    GPU: Renders the graphical image on the screen

    CPU: Works out calculations needed for a game to run, e.g. player movements

    So, for a games like First Person Shooters, the CPU takes a back seat role, as most of the demanding work is visual, and therefore done by the GPU.

    But, for RTS or MMORPG games that have many players or characters doing different things at once, the CPU plays a more more significant role as it has to work out many different calculations simultaneously.

    Therefore, in a game like World of Warcraft, you'll find that you take a noticeable performance hit if you enter a crowded area full of players and NPCs. As a player of that game myself, I had encountered this problem before and found that turning my graphics settings down helped, but not a lot. So, I upgraded my CPU - and though I found that I had no noticeable FPS gain in deserted areas, in crowded areas like cities; my FPS had increased dramatically.

    The easiest thing for you to do would be upgrade your CPU, which has become rather outdated.
  5. romeodakins said:
    I'm planning on getting a 6850 or 7850, so comparing a A8-3870k with 6850 vs Phenom 965 BE with 6850, how much better is the phenom build and how much fps would I be losing going with the A8 build?


    You won't be bottlenecked by the cpu(the apu), with those cards.
    If you want something better i'd get the fx-6300 or i5 for a cpu.
    And a better gpu, but for a 6850 or 7850 it will do.
  6. I really want to avoid switching the CPUs because when I switch my parts I have to sell my old parts on ebay which will be hard. I have a 400w psu and I want to get a card like the 6850 so keeping my CPU would actually be good right? Because it has lower psu consumption?
  7. thats too low.

    id recommand atleast 450watt of quality energy.
  8. romeodakins said:
    I really want to avoid switching the CPUs because when I switch my parts I have to sell my old parts on ebay which will be hard. I have a 400w psu and I want to get a card like the 6850 so keeping my CPU would actually be good right? Because it has lower psu consumption?



    Yes, but what's the psu brand and model ?
    If it's a decent one it will for the 6850 or 7850, but if it's a no name brand, it could be risky.
  9. i doubt its a high quality one,
  10. Yes, that one will do, it's a quality psu, made by seasonic, with 30A on its +12V rail, the 7850 requires 24A, so you're fine, i'd get the 7850, because it's better than the 6850.
  11. ya than u should be fine to runa 6850.

    whats ur rest of ur specs?
  12. iceclock said:
    ya than u should be fine to runa 6850.

    whats ur rest of ur specs?

    A8-3870k which takes 100w
    6850/7850 new gpu :)
    ASUS F1A55-M LE - FM1 - A55 mobo
    750gb seagate hdd
    asus dvd drive
    hyper 212 cpu cooler
    8gb ram
  13. 400watts should be fine.

    but its at the limits.

    i can recommand it but im still unshur, u can never know 100% with pcs.

    if u had to upgrade the ps would u?
  14. It's fine, it will do for the 7850, it requires 24A, you have 30A on the rail.
    It draws about 100W tops : http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Club_3D/HD_7850_RoyalQueen/images/power_peak.gif
    I'd get the 7850, it has two games free(bioshock infinite and tomb raider), and it's a better card than the 6850.
  15. iceclock said:
    400watts should be fine.

    but its at the limits.

    i can recommand it but im still unshur, u can never know 100% with pcs.

    if u had to upgrade the ps would u?

    I would pay to upgrade the psu but then I'd have to unplug everything and sell it on ebay and the shipping is going to be high since it's very heavy. And if I upgrade to like a 600w psu, then it would be capable with even higher gpu cards but then my cpu would bottleneck those so it's no use in upgrading the psu for better cards. If I do all those upgrades, I'd have to replace the psu, cpu, motherboard, graphics. So basically it'll be like I'm building a new pc and it'll be hard to ebay all those parts without losing a lot of money.
  16. or just buy a new ps+cheaper videocard.

    im saying it will run but theres always a possibility of lack of power. like i said computers are weird like that.
  17. The antec is fine, it's made by seasonic, with a 6 pin pcie connector and 30A on it's +12V rail, it can deliver the full power.
  18. So if a psu does fail, what would be the warnings? Would the computer have a warning message and shut itself off or will it just fry out of nowhere and burnout without warning?
  19. It will shutdown, that psu has protections when overloaded, but it will not reach the 400W, the cpu and the rest of the stuff plus the 7850, it will in fact be bellow 300W at full load.
  20. Best answer selected by romeodakins.
  21. cheers and full luck.
  22. iceclock said:
    cheers and full luck.

    Thanks!
  23. no problem dude :)
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