New build ...2800+

[jgarcia]

Approximate Purchase Date: sometime this week

Budget Range: 2800 or so...can do more

System Usage from Most to Least Important: mostly gaming

Are you buying a monitor: yes. was looking buying one of this korean monitors

Do you need to buy OS: yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.comLocation: texas

Parts Preferences: intel / nvidia

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Yes

Your Monitor Resolution: korean monitor rez)

Additional Comments:
finally want to build a pc that will msotly be used for gaming at the highest settings


was looking at an i5 680 sli or690..unless theres a betters combo or simlar build

 

[zared619]

Even though you may want 680's two Asus 670's will do the same job. Plus the 670 will overclock really well. Check out this build.
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/

If you want to save some more cash, you could drop the i7 for and i5-3570k and not notice any difference in games.
Any questions, just ask.

 

[hunterpostit88]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iKE1
In this case(when you can spend this kind of money)say,"*** THE i5 I WANT THE i7"
haha
This a very good build from my perspective.

 

[zared619]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iKE1
In this case(when you can spend this kind of money)say,"*** THE i5 I WANT THE i7"
haha
This a very good build from my perspective.

Good build with the exception of the OCZ SSD, they are crap and really unreliable.
Also, to take advantage of SLI 670 or 680, a multiple-monitor setup is almost required.

 

[manofchalk]

the OCZ SSD, they are crap and really unreliable.

I laughed when I read this and your personal quote.
Current OCZ drives are very reliable and among the fastest in the market. I would only object to that choice since its an Agility 4, and not a Vertex 4.

That build is way overkill and unbalanced. You have a 3930k (no difference to an i5 in gaming) with two 680's in SLI, outputting to a single 60hz 1080p monitor. You got yourself a massive bottleneck there.

Downgrade the 3930k to an i5-3570k, and the 680's to a HD7970's (AMD cards perform better at higher resolutions, I can prove it if you like), then get an Eyfinity monitor setup. That would be the proper way to spend your cash.

 

[thetechnoobguy]

The i7 3930k is only useful if you do extensive video editing, other than that a i7 3770k will be fine. If you want future proof go with the 3930k as they will be replacing z77 chipset motherboards in the future. Manofchalk is right if you're JUST doing gaming, no multitasking or video editing or anything then go with an i5 3570k.

Go for a 120hz or better yet a 144hz monitor that is 3d ready for optimal gaming performance. Given your budget I would definately go for a GTX 690 insetad of 680 or 7970's in sli and if you end up sli'ing your 690 you'll blow any game out of the water.

Even though you may want 680's two Asus 670's will do the same job. Plus the 670 will overclock really well. Check out this build.

Pre-clocked 680's give an average 15-20% performance boost compared to refrence 670's so that's not entirely true.

 

[manofchalk]

Pre-clocked 680's give an average 15-20% performance boost compared to refrence 670's so that's not entirely true.

A reference 680 is about 5% better than a reference 670, and overclocking usually can give a performance boost of between 10-20% on any card. So of course Overclocked 680's are going to perform better then reference 670's.

Though once you start overclocking the 670's, the performance difference will be minimal. Hardware wise they are basically the same, exact same GPU and memory bus.

 

[thetechnoobguy]

A reference 680 is about 5% better than a reference 670, and overclocking usually can give a performance boost of between 10-20% on any card. So of course Overclocked 680's are going to perform better then reference 670's.

Though once you start overclocking the 670's, the performance difference will be minimal. Hardware wise they are basically the same, exact same GPU and memory bus.

That's the average, it will be 2% boost in some games and 10% boost in others so it kind of depends on the games you're playing. I'm talking cards that are pre clocked and not yet overclocked, the zotac amp 680 and asus dc2 cards when overclocked reach 20%+ average compared to refrence 670s. Pre-clocked 680's are worth it if they're on sale, I was lucky enough to save $80 on mine. Also the memory clock on my zotac card can be overclocked to over 7000...

 

[thetechnoobguy]

This is roughly what I would go for if I had your money. Works out to be around $3000 if you get things on sale.

$426 ASUS Rampage IV Extreme LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard (overclocking on this is apparently very easy, you said you wanted to do overclocking)
$575 Intel Core i7-3930K
$1100 EVGA 04G-P4-2690-KR GeForce GTX 690 4GB 512-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (I'd do your research and find out what 690 is best when overclocked)
$240 KINGWIN LZP-1000 1000W ATX 12V v2.2, EPS 12V v2.91, and SSI EPS 12V v2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply (you can afford platinum certified so I would go for it)
$500 ASUS VG278HE Black 27" 2ms (GTG) HDMI Widescreen LED Backlight LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 50,000,000:1 Built-in Speakers 3D ready, Height, Swivel adjustable (great monitor, it's not a korean LG like you wanted lol but it's an amazing monitor nontheless)
$100 Windows 7 64 bit home OEM
$120 Any 16gb RAM that is compatible with your mobo.

I'm still missing the case, dvd drive, thermal paste, fans, cpu cooler and storage however you will save hundreds if you know where to look and where to buy the parts. Some of the parts I mentioned are in fact on sale on newegg. The PSU I put in there is overkill for a single 690 however if you want to SLI it in the future it would work great. I would go with a platinum PSU just because.. you can lol. They have the highest effeciency overall and it's important to get a good PSU.

 

[zared619]

This is roughly what I would go for if I had your money. Works out to be around $3000 if you get things on sale.

$426 ASUS Rampage IV Extreme LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard (overclocking on this is apparently very easy, you said you wanted to do overclocking)
$575 Intel Core i7-3930K
$1100 EVGA 04G-P4-2690-KR GeForce GTX 690 4GB 512-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (I'd do your research and find out what 690 is best when overclocked)
$240 KINGWIN LZP-1000 1000W ATX 12V v2.2, EPS 12V v2.91, and SSI EPS 12V v2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply (you can afford platinum certified so I would go for it)
$500 ASUS VG278HE Black 27" 2ms (GTG) HDMI Widescreen LED Backlight LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 50,000,000:1 Built-in Speakers 3D ready, Height, Swivel adjustable (great monitor, it's not a korean LG like you wanted lol but it's an amazing monitor nontheless)
$100 Windows 7 64 bit home OEM
$120 Any 16gb RAM that is compatible with your mobo.

I'm still missing the case, dvd drive, thermal paste, fans, cpu cooler and storage however you will save hundreds if you know where to look and where to buy the parts. Some of the parts I mentioned are in fact on sale on newegg. The PSU I put in there is overkill for a single 690 however if you want to SLI it in the future it would work great. I would go with a platinum PSU just because.. you can lol. They have the highest effeciency overall and it's important to get a good PSU.

LOL. That puts him over 3K and you're not even done yet. He doesn't need a 3930, as a 3570k will do the job, but since he has the cash, why not go for the i7. Two 670 Power editions will be almost as good as the 690 when overclocked. You don't need 1000 watts on a PSU for a system that requires about 550 watts. That monitor is way overpriced, and a multiple monitor set-up is best. And 8GB is already overkill, let alone 16.
Refer back to this.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iLKF

 

[zared619]

I laughed when I read this and your personal quote.
Current OCZ drives are very reliable and among the fastest in the market. I would only object to that choice since its an Agility 4, and not a Vertex 4.

That build is way overkill and unbalanced. You have a 3930k (no difference to an i5 in gaming) with two 680's in SLI, outputting to a single 60hz 1080p monitor. You got yourself a massive bottleneck there.

Downgrade the 3930k to an i5-3570k, and the 680's to a HD7970's (AMD cards perform better at higher resolutions, I can prove it if you like), then get an Eyfinity monitor setup. That would be the proper way to spend your cash.

In reference to my quote. If all generalizations are false, what is that statement? (It's a generalization!) Up until the vertex 4, OCZ was known for their horrendous reliability.

 

[manofchalk]

Hence the word "Current". So far their newer drives had had very few problems and have had great reliability. The Vertex 4 being among the fastest drives on the market (especially in write speeds) is well known and undisputed.

 

[thetechnoobguy]

LOL. That puts him over 3K and you're not even done yet. He doesn't need a 3930, as a 3570k will do the job, but since he has the cash, why not go for the i7. Two 670 Power editions will be almost as good as the 690 when overclocked. You don't need 1000 watts on a PSU for a system that requires about 550 watts. That monitor is way overpriced, and a multiple monitor set-up is best. And 8GB is already overkill, let alone 16.
Refer back to this.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iLKF

You obviously don't understand the power of price matching and buying things on sale. I've managed to save hundreds on my build because of that. He can manage below or over 3k depending on if he gets things on sale or not.

He hasn't really said much yet so you can't really speak for him. Maybe he likes being future-proof and wants to go for a 3930? Especially since your argument is "since he has the cash" it make sense for him to future proof and get the best things he can.

Provide some statistics and citation to back up that 670 sli claim, because it sounds too good to be true.

Overpriced or not it's an amazing monitor, that's meant for gaming, that blows your sub-par monitors out of the water. Multi-monitor setup being the "best" is subjective.

8Gb is not overkill it is the standard for gaming. If he's getting an i7 he mise well get some 12 or 16gb ram. You do know that gaming can utilize 8gb+ ram too right? Like if he wanted to host a minecraft server for example.

I absolutely 100% would not recommend the build you're suggesting him and I see it as a massive waste of the advantage of having a lot of money to spend at once.

To OP: Go for a 690. Go for a 120hz or higher monitor. Go for the 3930 if you like being future proof otherwise go for the 3770.

 

[zared619]

You obviously don't understand the power of price matching and buying things on sale. I've managed to save hundreds on my build because of that. He can manage below or over 3k depending on if he gets things on sale or not.

He hasn't really said much yet so you can't really speak for him. Maybe he likes being future-proof and wants to go for a 3930? Especially since your argument is "since he has the cash" it make sense for him to future proof and get the best things he can.

Provide some statistics and citation to back up that 670 sli claim, because it sounds too good to be true.

Overpriced or not it's an amazing monitor, that's meant for gaming, that blows your sub-par monitors out of the water. Multi-monitor setup being the "best" is subjective.

8Gb is not overkill it is the standard for gaming. If he's getting an i7 he mise well get some 12 or 16gb ram. You do know that gaming can utilize 8gb+ ram too right? Like if he wanted to host a minecraft server for example.

I absolutely 100% would not recommend the build you're suggesting him and I see it as a massive waste of the advantage of having a lot of money to spend at once.

To OP: Go for a 690. Go for a 120hz or higher monitor. Go for the 3930 if you like being future proof otherwise go for the 3770.

Show me a game that will use 8GB of RAM and uses 12 threads?
Very slight increase in performance for the 690 over the SLI 670.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_670_SLI/6.html

 

[jgarcia]

the most i will be doing with this system is gaming therefore ive heard that u do not need much more than an i5 3570k. But if an i7 works then i have no problm getting it. as for the monitor i would perfer one monitor with high rez rather than multi.

 

[jgarcia]

one more thing i forgot to mention, as for future proofing not really concerned as i will probably sell the system and buy a new one come the time

 

[mastrom101]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iNPF

Some efforts at future-proofing like 16GB and a 3770K. Looks solid overall.

 

[hunterpostit88]

Ok I can do some amendments to mine. Btw OCZ SSD's are some of the best on the market, more importantly fastest.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iOao
Cheaper than the amount you were expected to spend.

 

[thetechnoobguy]

Show me a game that will use 8GB of RAM and uses 12 threads?
Very slight increase in performance for the 690 over the SLI 670.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_670_SLI/6.html

None do, unless you're running servers or doing other multitasking that is "game related" you will be utilizing 8-12gb RAM (ie said you want to go into your browser and look up a guide while you're in game, while in a skype chat / other program.) However because RAM is so cheap it's become standard to have 8GB as the choice size of RAM.

He wont even be utlizing the extra cores from the 3930, but hey, he can get it if he wants.

It's better if he goes with a single 690, he has the money to do so.

 

[thetechnoobguy]

I spent a lot of time on this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iPl9

The storage / case I borrowed from hunterpostit's build, I might change it later. The RAM I put in there is the best 16gb you can get that is compatible with the motherboard, unless you want 32gb but that is insane and I doubt you would need that. The powersupply fits the needs of a sinlge gtx 690 and if you want to sli in the future you can replace the psu for something bigger.