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I need a suggestion about components MB,RAM,etc for AMD FX-8350

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February 11, 2013 7:33:47 PM

Hi,

I'm looking for good motherboard, RAM, and other components for my 24/7 server.
I planned using AMD FX-8350 as my CPU, 16gb of RAM max, a good motherboard and some weak graphics card as its a least important thing.
Here are the links of components that I'm planning to buy.

CPU: AMD FX-8350

RAM: Kingston HyperX CL9, KHX1600C9D3K4/16GX
http://www.kingston.com/datasheets [...] 4_16GX.pdf

Motherboard: GA-990FXA-D3 or MSI 970A-G46
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/p [...] id=3900#sp
or
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/970A [...] ?div=Basic

Power supply: Raidmax RX-500AF
http://www.raidmax.com/psu/rx_500af.html

HDD: Two Toshiba DT01ACA050 500gb in RAID 1
http://storage.toshiba.eu/cms/en/h [...] ductid=447

CASE: BlueBerry cn872bk500
http://www.blueberry-eu.com/main.p [...] cn872bk500

GPU: AMD Radeon 5450
http://eu.msi.com/product/vga/R5450-MD1GD3H-LP.html

The computer should be working 24/7 as a server (Debian 6) hosting game servers like hlds,srcds,cod4,samp,minecraft but mostly srcds and hlds and other multiplayer FPS games, and should get quite high performance from this CPU higher and stable FPS.

I'm wondering if I should go with Gigabyte or MSI motherborad or if you can suggest some motherboard that's in the similar price range.Because I heard that this MSI board with 970A chipset does not support directly FX-8350 and I need to apply a BIOS update and I can't do that at the moment.

As I've read the specs of those motherboards the onboard NIC is based on Realtek RTL8111E (10/100/1000 Mbit) I have a 100Mbps connection. Should I buy a separate NIC or use the onboard one. I need better ping and better network perofrmance.

My maximum budget for this PC is about 450 euros that's about $500.

If you can suggest some better components (MB,RAM,HDD,Power Supply,CASE,GPU) with lower or similar price please let me know.

Thanks in advance!
a c 147 à CPUs
February 11, 2013 10:27:27 PM

get a 10/100/1000 switch to plug the server into then you can plug in your 100 to that or your existing router. I suggest plugging all pcs into the switch then connect the switch to the router/cablemodem.
The realtec nic will work fine but the intels work a little faster.

I tried finding a motherbd that would operate in headless mode ( w/o a GPU) but lacked success. Biostar used to make a few that were cheap and reliable. My servers been up 3 yrs now.

Both motherbds might require a bios update before working with the 8350. Gigabyte at least puts the bios version on the lable on the outside of the box if you have a pc store nearby.
February 11, 2013 10:40:17 PM

My server is not going to be home, the company has pro network hardware, I don't need to worry about that. I'm just interested about the components quality and durability.

I need some quality and durable components with lower price similar to those I specified, or you can tell me if some of those components are good.


Can you tell me the model of your Biostar motherboard?

Thanks in advance!
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a c 135 à CPUs
February 11, 2013 10:54:08 PM

budget?

February 11, 2013 11:07:53 PM

iceclock said:
budget?

What do you think about the components I chose, I need quality components.

My budget is $500.

Thanks in advance!
a b à CPUs
February 11, 2013 11:10:36 PM

Why are you using a desktop/gaming CPU for a server?

Are you running anything that will be using graphics?

What are you trying to accomplish, data, web site hosting, gaming?




a c 135 à CPUs
February 11, 2013 11:10:48 PM

theres performance issues in ur build. what parts do u need?

February 11, 2013 11:19:20 PM

adamv1 said:
Why are you using a desktop/gaming CPU for a server?

Are you running anything that will be using graphics?

What are you trying to accomplish, data, web site hosting, gaming?


I'm going to use it only for game hosting I don't need high end graphics as Linux will be used as os without gui.


Quote:
theres performance issues in ur build. what parts do u need?


I need FX-8350 and minimum 16gb of RAM. I also think about using one of these motherboards
GA-990FXA-D3 or MSI 970A-G46 or GIGABYTE GA-970A-D3 rev.1.4 or some better MB that you can suggest
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=...
or
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/970A-G46.html#/?div=Basic
or
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=...

I perfer 1600 mhz ram I'm thinking about using these:
RAM: Kingston HyperX CL9, KHX1600C9D3K4/16GX or two KHX1600C10D3B1/8G or something better that you can suggest
http://www.kingston.com/datasheets/KHX1600C9D3K4_16GX.p...
or two
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator_new/PartsI...


What performance issues did you see? Can you recommend me some better components but the whole price must not exceed $500.

Thanks in advance!
a c 135 à CPUs
February 11, 2013 11:39:15 PM

so u need mobo+ram+cpu anything else?

February 11, 2013 11:44:04 PM

iceclock said:
so u need mobo+ram+cpu anything else?


I need Mobo,CPU,RAM,Power supply,CASE, and HDD one or two.

Thanks in advance!
a c 135 à CPUs
February 11, 2013 11:47:28 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CWQM
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CWQM/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CWQM/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake CLP0598 45.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($4.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $464.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-11 20:47 EST-0500)

this is alot better :) 

February 12, 2013 12:00:45 AM

Thanks for the suggestion anyone else?

Thanks in advance!
a c 135 à CPUs
February 12, 2013 12:16:22 AM

no problem. i made shur everything was compatible and within ur budget

February 18, 2013 7:52:33 PM

Hi, I am on the same boat. Looking a for a configuration to run Debian on a AMD FX-8350 and scared for motherboard incompatibility. Can you share the setup you ended up using? Does it work?
Thank you!
February 18, 2013 8:14:07 PM

I didn't decide yet what to buy, I'm still looking for good configuration, that's not too expensive.

Best Regards!
a b à CPUs
February 18, 2013 8:36:05 PM

I have really good luck with intel atom server platforms. This build should get you what you need and will be very long term stable for a server. The SSD will allow for fast transfers and is one of the biggest improvements you can make to a server that needs to parse lots of data.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I priced this at $312.95 and it should be enough to run a game server as long as you are not trying to run the actual game on the server.

This server beats the recommendations for 45+ users on minecraft and COD4 i'm not sure, but a dedicated server doesn't need all that horsepower from an 8 core processor, it wont use it.

If you want more cores or Ram use this set-up.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Same HD's just different hardware and the cost is $456. This would rock it real nice. The point of a server is to push lot's of data fast, you probably don't need the 1tb hard drive at all since most game servers are fairly small to begin with. This would support 16gb of ram but you probably won't need much more than 4, but 8 is nice too 16gb is a way more than you need.

So minus the 1tb HD you are looking at $376.95. That's a very good deal, you could use that extra cash to get a bigger ssd or more ram.
Like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

that would be a super fast server for $503.95.
February 19, 2013 12:37:47 AM

Adamv1, than you for the quick reply. That is a good setup for the purposes you mention, but what I need to create is a test workstation for server software. I need 8 logical cores, 32 GB RAM, a decent network card and a decent 1 TB hard drive. The rest, the ports, expansion slots, video, audio, lights, looks, etc is not important. That is the reason I am looking to build around the FX-8350 or similar power/price Intel/AMD.
We run Debian on our real servers and need the test station to also run Debian. For the real servers we go with dual cpu, raid, the whole enchilada, and the vendor usually makes sure the configuration is Debian compatible, but for the test workstations we go the consumer way and I want to avoid getting hardware that will not be compatible.
Thank you for your help.
a b à CPUs
February 19, 2013 6:45:06 PM

boas123 said:
Adamv1, than you for the quick reply. That is a good setup for the purposes you mention, but what I need to create is a test workstation for server software. I need 8 logical cores, 32 GB RAM, a decent network card and a decent 1 TB hard drive. The rest, the ports, expansion slots, video, audio, lights, looks, etc is not important. That is the reason I am looking to build around the FX-8350 or similar power/price Intel/AMD.
We run Debian on our real servers and need the test station to also run Debian. For the real servers we go with dual cpu, raid, the whole enchilada, and the vendor usually makes sure the configuration is Debian compatible, but for the test workstations we go the consumer way and I want to avoid getting hardware that will not be compatible.
Thank you for your help.


If your trying to VM, you will want more cores, I would suggest an i7 3930 if you want to get the most out of a VM server. It would be 12 cores 6 physical, 6 logical vs AMD's 8. But this would bust your budget for sure.
February 19, 2013 6:56:17 PM

My real issue is finding a motherboard that will be compatible with Debian and a high end desktop processor. I can push up my budget if I know it will work.
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February 19, 2013 7:12:24 PM

looks like you need an intel chip that supports Intel EM64T Extended memory technology. That would be any chip beyond 2004 from intel. For AMD you need AMD64, so any chipset from Athalon on. So your CPU choices are vast and the MB that goes with it should not matter as long as they support the given CPU.
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