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September 29, 2012 4:14:02 AM

Hello to all ;)  I'm trying to build a gaming PC first time since 2007 when i bought pre-build pc that i'm using now to post this tread.. its too old :) 
I will not post all spec from old PC because i don't want to upgrade it, i just want whole new PC. Spec's are following: CPU - Intel Pentium 4 2.66GHz ; GPU - 8500GT 256RAM ; 1GB DDR2 866MHz i think and some bad PSU. The reason i don't want to upgrade is that it will be bad for gaming because of all old spec's. My budget will be 500e and after some months(maybe in january) i will get extra 200-250e. So i'm thinking to get i5-3570k and use its HD4000 for some time and when i get money i will buy dedicated video card. Is that good choice? I will list part's for my build here:

Mobo: Probably Z77 gigabyte one with sli/cf support - 112e
CPU: i5-3570k 3.4GHz - 195e
GPU: HD4000
RAM: 2x4GB 1600Mhz Viper(with cooler) - 36e
PSU: This is hard choice because i in my country(Serbia Seasonic PSU's are expensive.. Seasonic 650W is 120e)
HDD: 1TB WD Black - 73e
CASE: Maybe some Thermal Take or Cooler Master around 60e
Mouse: 10e
keyboard: 10e

When i buy this system would it be good to SLI later? But firs i will buy gtx 660ti or gtx 670 alone, and then after 5-6 months to buy another one.. or its better single card solution? If i don't need SLI i can just get cheaper motherboard for 70e ; Processor i5-3450 with hd2500 for 166e ; Seasonic 620W SS-620GB for 95e or 520W Seasonic SS-520GM for same price?? I don't really get why they are same price but difference is 100W more? So what do you suggest me? And if i will go SLI in future maybe would Seasonic 620W what i listed would be enough for gtx 660ti SLi or gtx 670 SLI? Thank you in advance :p 

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September 29, 2012 5:39:29 AM

You should change the ram get some corsair vengeance or g.skill ripjaws x. A 620w psu isn't enough for sli with 660ti or 670. You would need a 750w psu. Seasonic does make a good psu but that is way too much for a 620w psu. I don't know what psu brands you can get in serbia so I'll just list a few good psu.
xfx pro550w http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
pc power & cooling 600w http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
antec neo 520w http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you want a psu for sli go with one of these.
corsair tx750w http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
xfx pro750w http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
pc power & cooling 750w http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

When you get your gpu if you don't get the gtx 670 get a hd 7950. I don't know about the prices there but here the 660ti and hd 7950 are about the same price so if its the same in serbia go with the hd 7950. Also you will need a cpu cooler for that i5 3570k get the cooler master hyper 212 evo.
September 29, 2012 5:53:07 AM

Corsair XMS3 is pretty good RAM, holds it's grounds against G.Skill and Vengence for gaming. If you can get a Cooler Master Elite 431 around 60e, then check them out. And if ASRock Exrteme4 is around the same price as the motherboard your looking at, check that out too. It's a pretty good motherboard. A friend of mine gave it to me and he works at Intel, saying it's the best inexpensive motherboard.

Hope you find everything in Serbia to make your PC come to life. =)
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September 29, 2012 6:00:45 AM

7950 and 660ti are almost same priced here also (maybe 660ti cheaper) In Serbia we don't have Antec,XFX,Corsair.... we only got Cooler Master, Thermal Take, LC Power, Chieftech. I found Thermal Take 750W Modular 80+ i think its bronze for 116e..
By the way i'm thinking to stick with 1 way GPU system so i will only need 500w psu right? So what componets do you suggest for 550e without GPU and SSD.
Like CPU to be Intel ; Motherboard that can overclock that intel CPU to 4GHz cuz i think its enough ; PSU 500W ; good ram ; case etc... i will send you link of my shop were i will be buying so you can look at prices. Site is www.emmi.rs maybe, not maybe but surely u don't know my language so i will tell you what to look for specific component.
CPU = Procesor ; Motherboard = Maticna ploca ; Ram = Ram memorija or something like that ; PSU = Napajanja i dodatni ventilatori ; CASE = Kucista ; HDD = Hard Disk (to be 1TB) That's all parts that you will need to look at, and all that what i listed you fill find on left side of site u may need to scroll little bit down. I also have 1280x1024 monitor for now so maybe it will be better to get full HD monitor then the another gfx? Ok hope i explained all and hope you will get used to that site(if u even want to look at) Bye
September 29, 2012 7:38:28 AM

Adsuki said:
Corsair XMS3 is pretty good RAM, holds it's grounds against G.Skill and Vengence for gaming. If you can get a Cooler Master Elite 431 around 60e, then check them out. And if ASRock Exrteme4 is around the same price as the motherboard your looking at, check that out too. It's a pretty good motherboard. A friend of mine gave it to me and he works at Intel, saying it's the best inexpensive motherboard.

Hope you find everything in Serbia to make your PC come to life. =)


Watch out for what you're saying, Asrock boards are cheaper for a reason. The board is thinner than other boards, and it also has non standard ATX screws, meaning its very prone to bending.
September 29, 2012 12:09:25 PM

Procesor 3570k
Kuler za procesor COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO
Napajanje SEASONIC SS-500ET
Maticna ASROCK Z77 Pro3
Hard disk WESTERN DIGITAL Caviar Blue 500GB
Kuciste COOLER MASTER HAF 912
RAM CORSAIR Vengeance je dobar ali moze bilo koji 2x4Gb sa 1.5v naponom i 1600Mhz

To sve ukupno kosta oko 500e mozes da uzmes i neko jeftinije kuciste ali ovo je odlicno napajanje je dovoljno za nvidia 670 ili AMD 7950 ne bih uzimao 660ti zbog velike cene(prebih uzeo 7950 ili dao vise para za 670) ako zelis cf/sli moras da uzmes bolju maticnu i napajanje u tom slucaju zameni maticnu i napajanje za sledece

Maticna ASUS P8Z77-V
Napajanje SEASONIC SS-750AM

Ovo je skuplja konbinacija oko 650e nazalost kod nas jedino valja seasonic imaj u vidu da bi na tvom monitoru sve letelo i sa jednom gtx670

sajt sa cenama svih prodavnica http://www.itsvet.com/
September 29, 2012 1:10:25 PM

Kakav je taj Seasonic 500ET?? I kakva je razlika kad bih igrao na 1280x1024 na ultra i na low-med na 1920x1080? Ja ipak nebih uzimao taj cpu cooler jer mi nece trebati trenutno
September 29, 2012 1:47:44 PM

Za 60e je najbolje napajanje koje moze da se kupi kod nas ja ga koristim sa 2500k oc i amd 6950 godinu dana i radi savrseno bice dovoljan za 670 i 7950 ali ne za cf/sli
Mozes da potrazis i THERMALTAKE TR2 RX 550W kao drugu opciju

Kupi nov racunar probaj sa starim monitorom ako ti se ne svidja kupi nov monitor. Sa 670 ili 7950 bi mogao ultra i na 1920x1080

Ako neces da oc procesor onda mozes da uzmes intel 3450 i ustedis malo bez jaceg kulera neces moci da oc. Inace jaci procesor od 3450 igre nece ni osetiti oc je tu nepotreban za bolje performanse je bitna jaka graficka mada ces ti mozda koristiti kompjuter za rendering ili nesto drugo.
September 29, 2012 3:58:39 PM

Ja cu kupovati u www.emmi.rs zato sto su najjeftini u Novom Sadu (gde i zivim) a posto nema kod njih mozda ima u gigatronu? Sta mislis koja je cena? Ja procesor necu overklokovati jel mi to netreba. i5-3450 ima hd2500 integrisanu tako? Ako jesete onda koju maticnu mi predlazes da bih mogao da koristim tu integrisanu iz emmi.rs shopa. Ja bih ipak opet uzeo i5-3570k zbog bolje integrisane a razlika je 3.000 taman za vreme dok budem skupljao za graficku imacu bolje preformanse. Hvala
September 29, 2012 5:12:42 PM

i5-3570k je najeftiniji procesor sa hd4000

ASRock Z77 PRO3 ili MSI Z77A-G43
Obe podrzavaju oc msi ce moci da oc 3570k do oko 4.2Ghz a ASRock do negde 4.5Ghz
MSI podrzava samo cf a ASRock cf/sli ali obe su ogranicene na 16PCIe3.0 linija za prvu kartu i 4PCIe2.0 za drugu kartu to je losa konfiguracija i ne bi ih preporucio za cf ili sli.
ASRock je malo boljeg kvaliteta nego MSI ali je malo skuplja.
Ako zelis cf ili sli javi pa cu da nadjem nesto(skuplje)
RAM
http://www.emmi.rs/ram-memorije-memorija-dimm-ddr3-2x4g...
Napajanje
http://www.emmi.rs/napajanja-i-dodatni-ventilatori-napa...
September 29, 2012 5:37:14 PM

Evo konfiguracije koju ja mislim da je dobra za moje potrebe:

CPU: i5-3570k - 22.800
GPU: Intel HD4000(za sad)
MB: Gigabyte Z77-UDH3 ja mislim ili da jos dam 3.000 za neku MSI sto podrzava sli/cf. Ta UDH3 je 10.000
HDD: 1TB - 8.500
PSU: 630W ThermalTake SMART 80PLUS - 6.300 da li garantujes u njegov kvalitet? Mislim bas je jeftin a ima 630W, a Seasonic 650W je 14.000
CASE: Koja bi mogla da podrzi 2 karte duzine 7970
Ram: 36e
mis: 10e
tastatura: 10e
Sve ispadne 553evra (kuciste sam racunao da je 6.000. Meni se u glavi stalno vrti jedno te isto.. da li da uzmem maticnu koja podrzava cf/sli ili ne. Sta ti mislis ako uzmem na primer 7850/7870/7950 ili 660ti/670 da li ce biti dobro da za godinu dana(krajem 2013) uzmem jos jednu? Ili kad vec izadju gtx 700 serija da ce biti bolje da uzmem jednu od njih pa sa njima SLI. A takodje ce mi i trebati bolje napajanje kao npr. ThermalTake 750W modular smart 80 plus koje je 13.500 i 850W(isto) 14.500. Sta mislis na sve ovo? Sta bih dodao promenio?
September 29, 2012 6:41:00 PM

Test napajanja
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermaltake-Smar...
Izdrzace bilo koju kartu bez problema i overklok
Kucista
http://www.emmi.rs/ku%C4%87i%C5%A1ta-kuciste-thermaltak...
http://www.emmi.rs/ku%C4%87i%C5%A1ta-kuciste-cooler-mas...
Gigabyte Z77-UDH3 dobra maticna los overkloker nije za cf/sli
Sta ce ti sli to je za velike rezolucije ili 3 monitora sa GTX670 mozes trenutno sve da igras na ultra i u 1920x1080. Za dve godine ces kupiti 9xx koja ce biti brza kao dve 670.
Ako se ipak odlucis za cf/sli u startu uzmi bolju maticnu (asus p8z77-v) i napajanje da ne bacas pare za dve maticne i dva napajanja.
Konfiguracija je dobra dodao bih GTX670 ili 7950(nemoj da uzimas 660ti bolja je 7950 za iste pare) sa njom ces moci bilo sta da igras na max.
Jedna alternativa sli-ju je GTX690 bukvalno dve GTX680 spakovane u jednu kartu ne treba ti sli ploca ali kosta 1000e
September 30, 2012 3:45:45 AM

Ok hvala ti na svim odgovorima. Sta mislis jel bolji taj ThermalTake 630W ili Seasonic 500ET za ovu konfiguraciju:

MB: MSI Z77A-G43 - 9.600din
CPU: i5-3570k - 22.700din
GPU: HD4000
RAM: http://www.emmi.rs/proizvodi.10.html?go=true&Id=10&cate...|DESC&offset=0 nadji mi neki dobar ram koji ce pomoci hd4000 da radi brze do 4.000/4.500din
HDD: 1TB - 8.500din
CASE: HAF 912 PLUS - 8.000
PSU: 500ET ili 630W sta mislis koje je boljeg kvaliteta?
Mis: 1.000din
Tastatura: 1.000din
Ispadne 61.600din/531e(racunao sam da je napajanje 630W-6.300) Ali ti ipak reci koje je bolje. Hvala
September 30, 2012 6:16:11 AM

Ako imas jos 1500din bolje uzmi ASRock Z77 PRO3 maticnu
September 30, 2012 7:27:31 AM

Jel dobra i ona prva maticna sto sam naveo? Razmislio sam da necu ici na SLi konfu jer neverujem da ce se isplatiti ocigledno necu ni imati toliko para. Znaci sve ce me izaci oko 520e pa ja sad razlisljam posto cu moci da igram dosta starijih igara kao Arma2,Gta San Andreas itd. tek cu sledece godine uzimati graficku. E sad imam jos jedno pitanje.. Imam CRT 17" i mislim da je bolje kasnije da uzmem neki 1920x1080p za igre kad uzmem graficku. Kasnije tj. sledece godinu cu mozdauzeti 7870/7950 pa neverujem da cu imati za monitor sta ti mislis kako je najbolji nacin da imam graficku i dobar monitor? Koja je razlika u cenama izmedju HD monitora sa 120Hz i 60Hz, gledao sam video klipove i kazu da sa 120Hz izgleda mnogo glatko naspram 60Hz. Takodje video sam klipove kako jedan lik igra metro203,crysis2 i dirt3 na 2x690GTX, e sad posto dok je igrao bio mu je pokrenut msi afterburner pa je se se moglo videti koliko svaka graficka koristi MB i temperature i naravno frejmovi. Dok je igrao Crysis2 obadve graficke su mu koristile po 1280MB i imao je 100fps-a, a kad bih naprimer imao 7950 3GB i ona bih koristila 1280MB ili duplo vise posto su tamo bile 2 karte? Cuo san ako inas sli/cf obadve karte ce koristiti Memoriju od slabije tj. ako imas jednu od 1GB a drugu od 2GB obe ce koristiti 1GB. Po mom misljenju 3GB od 7950 bice dosta za buduce igre narednih 2-3god. Poz
September 30, 2012 8:58:04 AM

Sve tri pomenute maticne su dobre ali ASRock je najbolja i nije mnogo skuplja

1920x1080 60Hz monitori su oko 150e a 120Hz su oko 300e. 120Hz izgleda bolje ali ni izbliza dovoljno da bi opravdao cenu plus moras da imas jaku graficku za 120Hz na primer sa 7870 bi igrao ultra na 1920x1080 sa 60Hz a za 120Hz bi morao da igras sa medium-high na 1920x1080 i ultra bi verovatno bolje izgledala nego medium-high 120Hz. 120Hz je vise za 3D igranje.

Sli/cf dupliraju memoriju. U slucaju koji si naveo 7950 bi koristio isto 1280Mb od 3Gb. Na primer dve GTX670 od 2Gb bi se ponasale kao karta sa 2Gb(ali sa jakim GPU-om) isto tako 690 sa 4Gb se ponasa kao 2Gb jer je to zapravo sli680. U slucaju nvidie karte sa razlicitom memorijom i frekvencijama se trebaju izbegavati kod amd-a frekvencije i memorije kartica se izjednace na frekvencije sporije karte i na memoriju sa karte sa manje memorije.

2Gb rama na grafickoj ce biti dovoljno za sledece 3 godine sigurno.

U tvom slucaju bih gledao da uzmem neki 23" 1920x1080 60Hz monitor(oko 155e) i 7850 2Gb(oko 175e)
September 30, 2012 9:08:45 AM

Sta bih predlozio da uzmem prvo Monitor pa kasnije graficku ili obrnuto?
September 30, 2012 9:16:53 AM

Ako ces samo da igras igre na kompjuteru onda uzmi graficku ako ces da gledas filmove ili ti je bitan dobar monitor uzmi monitor
September 30, 2012 1:05:53 PM

Ok hvala na pomoci :) 
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