Building first PC

I need suggestions for mobo, case and PSU to go with i5-3570k and Gigabyte GTX670. I don't have a real budget, so as long as it's not ridicilously expensive I'll take any suggestions as long as they're good.

Also, do you think i7-3770k or i7 in general is worth it just for gaming? I'm planning on making this build to last and need a CPU that won't bottleneck me if and when I upgrade my GPU.
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  1. i5 3570k is awesome for gaming. i7's FOR GAMING are not worth the extra money at all.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html
    it's top tier.

    mobo:I'm not sure what slots you want, but ill show a couple...

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128544
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128546

    I'm sure there are ones from other brands that are good, I have a GIGABYTE board, so I know those.

    Case: Honestly, anything w/ a decent amount of fans that is cheap. If you spend a lot of money on a case, it's a waste of money. Doesn't make your computer run better or anything.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119227
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811121096

    PSU: dont get a really cheap one to "save" money, it'll be a liability to have. I'd go at least 550W, 600W to be safe so you don't stress it too hard. In theory, you could go down to 500 or so, but it could be dangerous. I have the ThermalTake one and it works fine.
    Good Brands: Seasonic, Antec, Corsair, PC Power & Cooling.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371016
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153114

    There aer obviously better sites to buy from, I just used NE for reference, check microcenter if you live by one.
  2. also, if you want to OC a bit CPU side, get the Coolermaster hyper 212+. I and 4 friends have it, Works great, Will keep a 3570 cool at 4.3GHz. For RAM, anything 1600MHz and about $40 for 8GB (2 x 4GB) will go, just get G.Skill or something.
  3. A budget wuda been good start. here's one I did about 10 days ago....prices may have changed since then

    Case - $95 - Corsair Carbide 500R http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139009
    PSU - $78 - Corsair TX750 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011
    MoBo - $457 - ASUSSabertooth w/ CPU combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1065843
    CPU - incl - Intel Core i7-3570K
    Cooler - $90 - Phanteks PH-TC14PE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835709001
    TIM - $5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835150080
    RAM - $52 - (2 x 4GB) Corsair LV RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233199
    GFX - $420 - Asus GTX 670 DCII http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121637
    GFX - Later - Asus GTX 670 DCII Later
    HD - $110 Caviar Black 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136786
    SSD - $190 - Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240 GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226226
    DVD Writer - $47 - Asus Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135247

    Total $1,544

    Case - $400 - Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133195
    Case Fan - $12 - Thermaltake Blue120 mm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106149
    PSU - $145 - Corsair HX850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011
    MoBo - $457 - ASUS Z77 Sabertooth http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.984663
    CPU - incl - Intel Core i7-3570K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
    Cooler - $90 - Phanteks PH-TC14PE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835709001
    TIM - $5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835150080
    RAM - $52 - (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 CAS 9 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233199
    GFX - $420 - Asus GTX 670 DCII http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121637
    GFX - $420 - Asus GTX 670 DCII Same
    HD - $160 - Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB 64MB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148506
    SSD - $185 - Mushkin Chronos Deluxe http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226226
    DVD Writer - $50 - Asus Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135247
    Monitor $330 ASUS VG236H Black 23" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236092
    Keyboard - incl Tt eSPORTS Mega G1 Included w/ Case
    Mouse - incl Gaming Mouse Included w/ Case
    Headphones - incl Shock Gaming Headset Included w/ Case
    OS - $140 - Win 7-64 Home Professional http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116992

    Total $2,866

    Again, what features appeal to you may not be worth teh expense to someone else. Yes, the 3770k adds a few % points of performance, ......and yes, even in gaming, but most find that increase not worth an extra $100. A competitive gamer OTOH would be like the Indy race car driver who came in 2nd....ask him if he wuda spent $50k to come in 1st :). If you do anything else w/ your PC that benefits from hyperthreading, the 3770k is a no brainer.

    The IB CPUs run very hot. If you want high OC's I'd step up above the base level coolers and move at least into the $50 range.

    $50 - Hyper 612 or Scythe Mugen 3 will get you 5-7C more cooling than the Hyper 212.
    $80 - Phanteks, Thermaltake Silver Arrow and Noc HH-14 in that order

    Case - With an OC's CPOU and two OC'd GFX cards, you need to remove a lot of heat quickly ..... and preferably quietly. A decent case will do that and I have given ya two at both ends of the price spectrum. The Corsair 500R is at the lower end of the price range and its features provide great cooling a decent feature set. I'd not spend any less on a case or skimp below this level of performance on any build with a budget of $1200 or more.

    The case at the other end (Level 10 GT) goes for about $270 without the matching KB, Mouse and headphones. Is it worth it ? Well it's feature set is unmatched.....I'd pay $75 for the door removal feature alone. Is it worth that to you, again, that's a question only you can answer.

    The MoBo / CPU combo offers some nice savings....the MoBo is guaranteed for 5 years and is a great OC'er.

    The 670's will give you unmatched bang for the buck performance at that price range.

    The SSD is the cheapest THG tier 1 unit on the market today and the HD has a 5 year warranty, as compared with the 1 year on most competitors models in that price range.
  4. misclik said:
    also, if you want to OC a bit CPU side, get the Coolermaster hyper 212+. I and 4 friends have it, Works great, Will keep a 3570 cool at 4.3GHz. For RAM, anything 1600MHz and about $40 for 8GB (2 x 4GB) will go, just get G.Skill or something.

    Already planning on getting Hyper 212+. As for RAM, planning on G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x8GB DDR3 1600 Mhz. I know 16gb is an overkill by far however I can get this for really cheap so why not.
  5. Motherboard: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z77-express-ivy-bridge-benchmark,3254.html
    I have an ASRock Z77 Extreme4 on my 3570k and I love it! For the price it's loaded with features.
    You wont need an i7 for gaming.. most games are optimized for 2 cores, the i5s have 4 and the i7s have 4 with hyperthreading effectively making them 8 cores. A 3570k will hold out for a long long time.

    Case: I love my Antec 1100, it's got tons of space for big video cards and, well.. whatever else you wanna throw in there. It is quite large though. Another option at a great price is the Zalman Z9, for me its a bit too gamerish looking and I've heard that the plastic bezels feel a little cheap but overall it ranks pretty high amongst reviews I've read. It's also packed with features at a low price point.

    PSU: Use a power supply calculator and set capictor ageing to 50% presuming that you're gonna use this rig for years to come. Get something from Corsair, Seasonic, Antec, OCZ, etc. Get a brand name, trusted manufacturer. You don't want to stinch on your PSU. Keep your eyes peeled for deals, I got a 1000w gold rated OCZ for $120 reg $280! You probably only need around 600-700w though.
  6. daosku said:
    Already planning on getting Hyper 212+. As for RAM, planning on G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x8GB DDR3 1600 Mhz. I know 16gb is an overkill by far however I can get this for really cheap so why not.


    Decide on a motherboard before you decide on the ram you're going to buy. Make sure that the ram is somewhere on the motherboards compatability sheet. I.e. here's the compatibility sheet for the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 - http://www.asrock.com/mb/memory.asp?Model=Z77%20Extreme4
  7. daosku said:
    Already planning on getting Hyper 212+. As for RAM, planning on G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x8GB DDR3 1600 Mhz. I know 16gb is an overkill by far however I can get this for really cheap so why not.


    As for the 212+, I'd pay the extra few dollars for the 212 Evo. It's just a 212+ with an improved baseplate. The exposed heatpipe design on the 212+ has spaces that don't make contact with the CPU which actually make a difference of almost 5 degrees celcius. If you want to get another 5 degrees cooler yet, and you're okay with spending a bit more, get a Noctua NH-D14.

    Cooler reviews: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/LGA-2011-i7-3960X-Air-Overclocking,3130.html
    ^ yes the review is for LGA 2011 but you're gonna get similar results regardless of socket.
  8. fuzg13z said:
    Decide on a motherboard before you decide on the ram you're going to buy. Make sure that the ram is somewhere on the motherboards compatability sheet. I.e. here's the compatibility sheet for the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 - http://www.asrock.com/mb/memory.asp?Model=Z77%20Extreme4

    I was looking at Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H Intel Z77. If I cannot find it from the compatability sheet, does it automatically mean it's not compatible even though according to specs it should be?
  9. I'm not sure but if it's not on the compatibility sheet I'd steer away from it. Buying something on the compatibility sheet is going to ensure that you can use your RAM at its rated specs. That Gigabyte board is nice, it's got a 9 phase voltage regulator but there are a few things that I don't particularly like about it. It doesn't have a diagnostics output, and it doesn't have a clear cmos button. Those are not really big issues though. There should still be a clear cmos jumper and hopefully your build will go smoothly enough that you wont need the diagnostics panel. 9 phases is fine but ASRock as 12 :)
  10. Z77 Extreme4 seems good and costs only a couple euros more than Gigabyte - think I'll go with that.

    According to the manufacturer ( http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=422 ) Z77 Extreme4 is supported even though I cannot find it from the mobo's own compatibility sheet, should I trust the manufacturer on this one?
  11. basically, 1600 MHz ram should be compatible in any motherbord on the market today.. that doesn't cost 5 ruples..
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