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September 29, 2012 11:51:12 AM

I need suggestions for mobo, case and PSU to go with i5-3570k and Gigabyte GTX670. I don't have a real budget, so as long as it's not ridicilously expensive I'll take any suggestions as long as they're good.

Also, do you think i7-3770k or i7 in general is worth it just for gaming? I'm planning on making this build to last and need a CPU that won't bottleneck me if and when I upgrade my GPU.

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September 29, 2012 12:10:34 PM

i5 3570k is awesome for gaming. i7's FOR GAMING are not worth the extra money at all.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...
it's top tier.

mobo:I'm not sure what slots you want, but ill show a couple...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm sure there are ones from other brands that are good, I have a GIGABYTE board, so I know those.

Case: Honestly, anything w/ a decent amount of fans that is cheap. If you spend a lot of money on a case, it's a waste of money. Doesn't make your computer run better or anything.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: dont get a really cheap one to "save" money, it'll be a liability to have. I'd go at least 550W, 600W to be safe so you don't stress it too hard. In theory, you could go down to 500 or so, but it could be dangerous. I have the ThermalTake one and it works fine.
Good Brands: Seasonic, Antec, Corsair, PC Power & Cooling.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

There aer obviously better sites to buy from, I just used NE for reference, check microcenter if you live by one.
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September 29, 2012 12:15:05 PM

also, if you want to OC a bit CPU side, get the Coolermaster hyper 212+. I and 4 friends have it, Works great, Will keep a 3570 cool at 4.3GHz. For RAM, anything 1600MHz and about $40 for 8GB (2 x 4GB) will go, just get G.Skill or something.
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September 29, 2012 12:18:04 PM

A budget wuda been good start. here's one I did about 10 days ago....prices may have changed since then

Case - $95 - Corsair Carbide 500R http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $78 - Corsair TX750 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $457 - ASUSSabertooth w/ CPU combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU - incl - Intel Core i7-3570K
Cooler - $90 - Phanteks PH-TC14PE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - $5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $52 - (2 x 4GB) Corsair LV RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $420 - Asus GTX 670 DCII http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - Later - Asus GTX 670 DCII Later
HD - $110 Caviar Black 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - $190 - Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240 GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $47 - Asus Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total $1,544

Case - $400 - Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case Fan - $12 - Thermaltake Blue120 mm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $145 - Corsair HX850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $457 - ASUS Z77 Sabertooth http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU - incl - Intel Core i7-3570K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooler - $90 - Phanteks PH-TC14PE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - $5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $52 - (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 CAS 9 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $420 - Asus GTX 670 DCII http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $420 - Asus GTX 670 DCII Same
HD - $160 - Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB 64MB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - $185 - Mushkin Chronos Deluxe http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $50 - Asus Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor $330 ASUS VG236H Black 23" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Keyboard - incl Tt eSPORTS Mega G1 Included w/ Case
Mouse - incl Gaming Mouse Included w/ Case
Headphones - incl Shock Gaming Headset Included w/ Case
OS - $140 - Win 7-64 Home Professional http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total $2,866

Again, what features appeal to you may not be worth teh expense to someone else. Yes, the 3770k adds a few % points of performance, ......and yes, even in gaming, but most find that increase not worth an extra $100. A competitive gamer OTOH would be like the Indy race car driver who came in 2nd....ask him if he wuda spent $50k to come in 1st :) . If you do anything else w/ your PC that benefits from hyperthreading, the 3770k is a no brainer.

The IB CPUs run very hot. If you want high OC's I'd step up above the base level coolers and move at least into the $50 range.

$50 - Hyper 612 or Scythe Mugen 3 will get you 5-7C more cooling than the Hyper 212.
$80 - Phanteks, Thermaltake Silver Arrow and Noc HH-14 in that order

Case - With an OC's CPOU and two OC'd GFX cards, you need to remove a lot of heat quickly ..... and preferably quietly. A decent case will do that and I have given ya two at both ends of the price spectrum. The Corsair 500R is at the lower end of the price range and its features provide great cooling a decent feature set. I'd not spend any less on a case or skimp below this level of performance on any build with a budget of $1200 or more.

The case at the other end (Level 10 GT) goes for about $270 without the matching KB, Mouse and headphones. Is it worth it ? Well it's feature set is unmatched.....I'd pay $75 for the door removal feature alone. Is it worth that to you, again, that's a question only you can answer.

The MoBo / CPU combo offers some nice savings....the MoBo is guaranteed for 5 years and is a great OC'er.

The 670's will give you unmatched bang for the buck performance at that price range.

The SSD is the cheapest THG tier 1 unit on the market today and the HD has a 5 year warranty, as compared with the 1 year on most competitors models in that price range.
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September 29, 2012 12:33:14 PM

misclik said:
also, if you want to OC a bit CPU side, get the Coolermaster hyper 212+. I and 4 friends have it, Works great, Will keep a 3570 cool at 4.3GHz. For RAM, anything 1600MHz and about $40 for 8GB (2 x 4GB) will go, just get G.Skill or something.

Already planning on getting Hyper 212+. As for RAM, planning on G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x8GB DDR3 1600 Mhz. I know 16gb is an overkill by far however I can get this for really cheap so why not.
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September 29, 2012 12:59:29 PM

Motherboard: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z77-express-ivy-bri...
I have an ASRock Z77 Extreme4 on my 3570k and I love it! For the price it's loaded with features.
You wont need an i7 for gaming.. most games are optimized for 2 cores, the i5s have 4 and the i7s have 4 with hyperthreading effectively making them 8 cores. A 3570k will hold out for a long long time.

Case: I love my Antec 1100, it's got tons of space for big video cards and, well.. whatever else you wanna throw in there. It is quite large though. Another option at a great price is the Zalman Z9, for me its a bit too gamerish looking and I've heard that the plastic bezels feel a little cheap but overall it ranks pretty high amongst reviews I've read. It's also packed with features at a low price point.

PSU: Use a power supply calculator and set capictor ageing to 50% presuming that you're gonna use this rig for years to come. Get something from Corsair, Seasonic, Antec, OCZ, etc. Get a brand name, trusted manufacturer. You don't want to stinch on your PSU. Keep your eyes peeled for deals, I got a 1000w gold rated OCZ for $120 reg $280! You probably only need around 600-700w though.
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September 29, 2012 1:01:58 PM

daosku said:
Already planning on getting Hyper 212+. As for RAM, planning on G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x8GB DDR3 1600 Mhz. I know 16gb is an overkill by far however I can get this for really cheap so why not.


Decide on a motherboard before you decide on the ram you're going to buy. Make sure that the ram is somewhere on the motherboards compatability sheet. I.e. here's the compatibility sheet for the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 - http://www.asrock.com/mb/memory.asp?Model=Z77%20Extreme...
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September 29, 2012 1:05:02 PM

daosku said:
Already planning on getting Hyper 212+. As for RAM, planning on G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x8GB DDR3 1600 Mhz. I know 16gb is an overkill by far however I can get this for really cheap so why not.


As for the 212+, I'd pay the extra few dollars for the 212 Evo. It's just a 212+ with an improved baseplate. The exposed heatpipe design on the 212+ has spaces that don't make contact with the CPU which actually make a difference of almost 5 degrees celcius. If you want to get another 5 degrees cooler yet, and you're okay with spending a bit more, get a Noctua NH-D14.

Cooler reviews: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/LGA-2011-i7-3960X-A...
^ yes the review is for LGA 2011 but you're gonna get similar results regardless of socket.
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September 29, 2012 1:17:55 PM

fuzg13z said:
Decide on a motherboard before you decide on the ram you're going to buy. Make sure that the ram is somewhere on the motherboards compatability sheet. I.e. here's the compatibility sheet for the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 - http://www.asrock.com/mb/memory.asp?Model=Z77%20Extreme...

I was looking at Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H Intel Z77. If I cannot find it from the compatability sheet, does it automatically mean it's not compatible even though according to specs it should be?
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September 29, 2012 1:26:53 PM

I'm not sure but if it's not on the compatibility sheet I'd steer away from it. Buying something on the compatibility sheet is going to ensure that you can use your RAM at its rated specs. That Gigabyte board is nice, it's got a 9 phase voltage regulator but there are a few things that I don't particularly like about it. It doesn't have a diagnostics output, and it doesn't have a clear cmos button. Those are not really big issues though. There should still be a clear cmos jumper and hopefully your build will go smoothly enough that you wont need the diagnostics panel. 9 phases is fine but ASRock as 12 :) 
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September 29, 2012 1:38:48 PM

Z77 Extreme4 seems good and costs only a couple euros more than Gigabyte - think I'll go with that.

According to the manufacturer ( http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=422 ) Z77 Extreme4 is supported even though I cannot find it from the mobo's own compatibility sheet, should I trust the manufacturer on this one?
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September 29, 2012 4:05:40 PM

basically, 1600 MHz ram should be compatible in any motherbord on the market today.. that doesn't cost 5 ruples..
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