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September 29, 2012 11:19:27 PM

Hello!

I'm looking to build a computer. The last computer I built was 12 years ago while I was in college.

I'm behind the times and have no clue what's good and what's not.

I took the lazy route 4 years ago and bought a Dell XPS 720 which I'm currently running with now. Replaced the video card not too long ago - a GTX 460.

I've been searching the threads here and decided that you could build a reasonably good machine for $1000 to $1200.

I was wondering if you all could suggest a build that would let me upgrade down the road so that I could get another 4 years out of this machine.

Would like to have an SSD 128 GB's or 256 if the price is reasonable. I would also like a second HD 1 TB in size should be sufficient.

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.:

2 - 3 months.

Budget Range:

$1000 ~ $1200

System Usage from Most to Least Important:

Surfing the web, gaming, software development.

Will be running multiple vm's.

Are you buying a monitor:

I currently have Samsung SyncMaster XL2370 with a cheap LG monitor in a dual setup. Will probably pick up another comparable monitor to the Samsung in the future.

Do you need to buy OS:

Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:

Open to any vendor.

Location:

Maryland

Parts Preferences:

Open to anything.

Overclocking:

Probably not. Never needed a reason or saw a reason to.

SLI or Crossfire:

Possible in the future. Would like to have a build that would allow for it down the road.

Your Monitor Resolution:

Currently running 1920 x 1080.

Why Are You Upgrading:

My machine is old. Time to get some current hardware.

Thank you!

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September 29, 2012 11:30:46 PM

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Overclocking:

Probably not. Never needed a reason or saw a reason to.


For ~$50 more you can boost your processor speed by 40% versus a locked processor with a stock cooler. It is very simple to do now days and is well worth it.

You get more current performance, and down the line it will be significantly more futureproof.
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September 29, 2012 11:41:15 PM

I thought it was a pain in the butt to do.

I'm going to research how easy it is to do now and see what it entails.
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September 29, 2012 11:47:12 PM

the old dell...wipe it and put 3 party software on it use it as a strage pc for your movies and music..or donate it for a tax write off. right now your between amd and intel doing a refresh on there cpu. intel next cpu is dropping in april. going to be using a new pin out that does not matxh the sb or ib cpus. amd is switching over to there fx2 slots. for cpu intel i7 right now is the king for raw power. there not many games or programs that can bring a 4-6 core i7 to it nee's. also with the higher end cpu our going to pay extra for the i7 them and i-5. the i5 is an i7 without the hyperthreding. myself i use an i-5 3570 and use the extra money for a larger ssd. i would right now use an z77 mb with two video slots. like the sabertooth z77 or mb like it from msi or gigbyte. using one good video card like a 670 will be fine. (the newer 8000 line and 700 line will be out soon too.) myself i would wait from 8000 line from ati. if ati keeps up what there doing in there gpus the 8800 line will be fast but also not a wallet killer. there 250 dollar line of cards have always hard to beat. for stoage look at 120g samsung 830 or intel drive. they may not be the fastest drives out there but both comp do more testing of there own ssd..less feild failure then the drives that relabel brand x drives. as ddr3 is cheap max out your system board now. it better to by max sets of ram then trying to mix two sets of ram. look into the larger full size gaming cases r400-and larger cases...the larger the case the easier it is to work on and have better airflow. larger cases they have the 300mm fans..larger fans spin slower...slower fans...less fan noise from the case. if a case has muilt fans spending 40.00 on a good fan controller is a good idea..turn the fans down or off when not needed. also use a good after market heat sink on the cpu..the intel or amd ones are cheaply made. moast good aftermarket heat sinks are a large brink of metal with one or two 120mm fans clipped to them..if a fan fails on these just unclip the fan and replace.
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September 29, 2012 11:50:21 PM

kapolani said:
I thought it was a pain in the butt to do.

I'm going to research how easy it is to do now and see what it entails.


With something like the 2500k, all you do now is change the multiplier from 30-50, maybe tweak the voltage up a small bit and you're overclocked.
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September 29, 2012 11:56:55 PM

here are some suggestions for a build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($27.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($72.00 @ Compuvest)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($419.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Amazon)
Total (before mail-in rebates): $1195.90
Mail-in Rebates: $-10.00
Total: $1185.90
maybe you might have an idea on what to look for, no? :) 
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September 30, 2012 12:26:03 AM

Thank you!

That's exactly what I was looking for.

I see those components recommended a lot on this site.

I wanted to get someone's opinion then research the parts they recommend.

Really appreciate the response!

Anonymous said:
here are some suggestions for a build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($27.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($72.00 @ Compuvest)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($419.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Amazon)
Total (before mail-in rebates): $1195.90
Mail-in Rebates: $-10.00
Total: $1185.90
maybe you might have an idea on what to look for, no? :) 


The CPU cooler is for overclocking, correct?

About the power supply, wouldn't it be a good idea to go for a 750W so that I can SLI in the future?
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September 30, 2012 1:55:45 AM

kapolani said:
Thank you!

That's exactly what I was looking for.

I see those components recommended a lot on this site.

I wanted to get someone's opinion then research the parts they recommend.

Really appreciate the response!



The CPU cooler is for overclocking, correct?

About the power supply, wouldn't it be a good idea to go for a 750W so that I can SLI in the future?

you're welcome.

a little "warning" about that motherboard; some people do not like it because it is a little thinner than most and will flex when connecting the 24 pin power connection it. but a little care and no worries. though some MSI and asus boards are also really good.

yes the cooler is for overclocking though a stock intel heatsink isn't all that if you are not overclocking. i have a non K i5-2400 and when fully stressed in prime95 it can get up to 71 celsius (well within specs but i like my cpu to be as cool as possible).

it really is no problem to get 4.2 Ghz out of the box with a ivy i5 and not have to tweak anything but raise the multiplier in the BIOS.

also asus puts out very good GTX 670 cards though some other folks may have their favorites (depending on what week it is) and that suggestion really isn't meant to be the final word; a MSI PE somes to mind as another great choice. here is a link of reviews if you care to and have the time:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviewdb/Graphics-Cards/NVID...

now if you are looking to get a 670 SLI set up; theoretically a 550 watt PSU *could* handle it.

how?

well that system will run between 110 - 150 watts (depending on overclocking) a GTX 670 needs 145 watts so lets take 150+(145*2)= 440 watts. and keeping the max load under 80% for better efficiency; 440/.8= 550 watts.

but one problem; the power connections for a 670 SLI would need four 6 pin (or two 6 and two 6+2)PCI and it is rare and overly expensive to get that on a 550 watt PSU. so lets step up to 650 watt PSU with enough power connections:

XFX 650W PRO650W Core Edition $89.99 USD
After Mail In Rebate: $79.99 USD

now that does bump things up to $1215 up front costs.

edit: yes i am a XFX PSU fan (pardon the pun) because they are made by seasonic and are priced very well.
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September 30, 2012 2:38:04 PM

Anonymous said:
you're welcome.

a little "warning" about that motherboard; some people do not like it because it is a little thinner than most and will flex when connecting the 24 pin power connection it. but a little care and no worries. though some MSI and asus boards are also really good.


What would be a more robust board? I get a little impatient sometimes. Usually that results in me messing something up.

I might even have someplace local install the CPU and motherboard.


[urlExt=http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59616&vpn=P1650SNLB9&manufacture=XFX said:
XFX 650W PRO650W Core Edition $89.99 USD
After Mail In Rebate: $79.99 USD
]
XFX 650W PRO650W Core Edition $89.99 USD
After Mail In Rebate: $79.99 USD
[/urlExt]

Thanks! Adding to the list.
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Anonymous
September 30, 2012 4:37:46 PM

kapolani said:
What would be a more robust board? I get a little impatient sometimes. Usually that results in me messing something up.

I might even have someplace local install the CPU and motherboard.


ASUS P8Z77-V Lk $135.99
After Mail In Rebate: $115.99 USD

it isn't a arduous evolution to install a cpu esp the icore series that do not have the pins on the chip but the motherboard. just line up the notches on the side.

here is a video that might have a few tips for you and relieve any concern(s)

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September 30, 2012 6:53:54 PM

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Antec Three Hundred Two Gaming Case, Black

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Corsair CX Series CX750 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80PLUS BRONZE Certified Power Supply CP-9020015-NA

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Intel Core i5-3330 Ivy Bridge 3.0GHz (3.2GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637i53330
ASRock Z77 Extreme3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

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G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAO

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Lite-On Super AllWrite 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive - Bulk - IHAS124-04 Version C (Black)

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SanDisk SDSSDP-128G-G25 2.5" 128GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

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MSI AMD Radeon HD 7950 3GB GDDR5 DVI/HDMI/2xMini DisplayPort PCI-Express Video Card R7950 TWIN FROZR 3GD5/OC

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Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack

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SanDisk Extreme SDSSDX-240G-G25 2.5" 240GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
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September 30, 2012 8:06:35 PM

Why_Me said:


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Total: $1,092.68 *not including shipping & rebates


Thank you!

Something different I can research. Need to check out that video card. Looks good.


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