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September 30, 2012 1:41:55 AM

So i need some input on building a gaming PC. I've never built a computer before so im just wondering if this would be a good setup. I want to be able to play most new games at max settings preferably, and do graphic design. Anyways here's list:


MB: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K

GPU: EVGA 02G-P4-2678-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (Might add another one in the future)

Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL (Could go to 16GB if needed)

HD: Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

PSU: CORSAIR HX Series HX750 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC ...

CD/DVD: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0, Black Interior and Four Fans-1x ...

Monitor: Asus VE248H Black 24" Full HD HDMI LED Backlight LCD Monitor w/Speakers

OPS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

Well thats it so far. Any suggestions? Anything else I need? Thanks in advance.

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September 30, 2012 2:07:10 AM

nice setup, only thing i would add would be an SSD... 128GB for that OS/apps/few games + 1TB for data/everything else.
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September 30, 2012 2:19:10 AM

Ironslice said:
He said he's doing graphic design, keep the i7.


Two 7950's will more than make up for the fact that you don't have 4 virtual cores.
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September 30, 2012 2:22:22 AM

Thanks for the help guys. Unfortunately the MB has already been ordered, is that going to make a big difference? And the GPU 7950 in crossfire? I have no idea what that is, can someone explain? The PSU I will change. As far as the SSD, any suggestions on a good one to pick up?
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September 30, 2012 2:36:09 AM

Splurge and get an Ultrasharp: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The extra 120 vertical pixels will make your games look that much better, your GTX 670 will handle everything at great framerates, and with IPS colors will look a ton better (also more accurate for your design needs) than that monitor you've got selected.

Also, definitely get an SSD. ^That's a great one.
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September 30, 2012 2:45:59 AM

jessterman21 said:
Splurge and get an Ultrasharp: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The extra 120 vertical pixels will make your games look that much better, your GTX 670 will handle everything at great framerates, and with IPS colors will look a ton better (also more accurate for your design needs) than that monitor you've got selected.

Also, definitely get an SSD. ^That's a great one.


7950's are better are computational work. AKA graphic design
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September 30, 2012 2:57:14 AM

That monitor looks sweet. I'll go ahead and get that one instead. As far as the PSU's, what's the difference other than price? And now I'm torn between GPU's, which one is better? And is there a link to the 7950s? Couldn't find them on new egg.
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September 30, 2012 3:04:50 AM

The difference is the LED and your PSU is slightly more efficient. Probably only a few dollars a year though.
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September 30, 2012 3:30:39 AM

Last question. If I stick with the gtx 670 should I get the evga or gigabyte brand? Heard the gigabyte was better..
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September 30, 2012 3:33:37 AM

Yea. Gigabyte is good.
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September 30, 2012 3:46:02 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: OCZ Agility 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ CompUSA)
Monitor: Dell U2412M 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($298.39 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($91.10 @ Amazon)
Total: $1281.40
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Save 20 bucks with 2600k. Better overclocking potential.

You need a cooler. Here's a great one for cheap.

Low profile ram to fit under hyper 212's fan. Will run nice and cool when your mobo sets it to 1333 with 2600k.

Overclock the gpu past 7970 levels and game at 3x 1920x1200(or just game for a long time on that dell)

Hard to beat the features on this case for the price.

This psu is great quality and more than enough for your parts(or an overclocked 7970). Avoid sli/crossfire. Many reasons, won't list them here.

The other parts are the same as suggested/picked already(save the dvd burner, but any is fine nowadays). Hope you find this list useful.

Edit: I forgot. You can get that xfx 550w cheaper right now. Here's the link:

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&promoid=1210

44.99 shipped(when bundled with other parts) after rebate.
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September 30, 2012 3:55:09 AM

OP is new to building computers so he won't be overclocking.

Also, there's no reason not to SLI/xfire
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September 30, 2012 5:03:44 AM

Think I'm gonna stick with the Gigabyte Geforce 670 and the i7 3770k. What is over clocking? Should I be doing it? And if I'm not doing it do I still not need the CPU cooler?
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September 30, 2012 5:40:31 AM

For most people nowadays, overclocking is running you cpu and/or gpu at higher clock speeds for better performance. The i7 3770k you picked has an unlocked multiplier, which means it is meant for you to overclock. You won't get very far on the stock intel cooler, though. You should have a decent air cooler(the hyper 212+ is the best combo of price and cooling for you right now). Also, All these new cards with a 28nm gpu inside beg you to at least try overclocking them(best done on a card with a custom cooler versus the stock amd/nvidia cooler). Depending on the card you pick, big performance gains can be had. You do want to be careful and test your overclocks for stability(prime95 is popular for cpu testing, and Furmark is popular for gpu testing. Both are free downloads). You also want to make sure your temps are in check(below 80c is decent for a gpu, not sure about i7 3770K. google overclocking guides for that cpu for guidance). Also, a good rule of thumb when overclocking is not to increase voltage by more than 10% over stock when trying to gain stability at higher clocks(safe voltage varies from on cpu or gpu to the next. google for best practices with your selected parts).
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September 30, 2012 5:59:42 AM

I'm going to agree with Ohmybad with you outlining a nice setup. I would stick with the sabertooth board those boards are battle tested for some serious hardware which you look to be installing. Gigabyte, Asus, and Msi all have really good non reference cards you can't go wrong with any of those. Also if you go with a SSD the Samsung 830 line is pretty boss you may want to check out that line as well you can get one now on newegg 128 gigabytes for $112.99 less then 1 dollar per gig

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 30, 2012 6:33:28 AM

Any difference between the OCZ Vertex 4 and the Samsung 830 other than the brand? Also are there any good tutorials out there for building a PC that I can use once I get all the hardware?
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September 30, 2012 6:41:40 AM

Um, OCZ uses a different controller then Samsung which uses there own controller which to some degree provides a more stable and awesome experience.

here is a article that may be of interest to you it outlines the best ssd's at the price :) 
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-recommendation-...


Youtube has some good tutorials I really like this guy from newegg he is very informative and is slow when explaining things. This is a link to the part that shows how to build one :) 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_9...
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September 30, 2012 6:46:59 AM

The samsung has been around longer than the vertex 4 and it's reliability is better known. They use different controllers(I believe samsung uses a samsung controller while the vertex 4 uses an indilinx controller). There are tons of good pc building videos on youtube. Grab yourself some popcorn and get watchin'.

Edit: I gotta work on typing faster...
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September 30, 2012 6:49:51 AM

eye of a tiger jtenorj :p 
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September 30, 2012 7:02:11 AM

Dont change the power supply, corsair is way better
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September 30, 2012 7:28:54 AM

Cool. Might roll with Samsung then. Should I look into sound cards as well? Haven't really checked those out yet.
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September 30, 2012 7:43:13 AM

Um, sound cards depends on what you want to do. I have a astro a40 headset so I had to have dolby digital live for my headset to get everything out of it. Soundcards typically allow you to have a higher and more stable range of volume and sound. I have this sound card although I wouldnt suggest it the one that the people at astro recommend ill provide in my 2nd link. Honestly though if you find yourself in a position where you are okay with your onboard stick with your onboard.

Creative X-fi Fatality Professional
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HT OMEGA
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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October 1, 2012 2:17:18 AM

Can anyone suggest a good 2TB HDD? Keep reading mixed reviews on newegg.com. Either they're DOA or fail within months.
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October 1, 2012 1:20:13 PM

After looking on pcpartpicker.com and reading some reviews, I don't recommend that 90 dollar seagate. You should be ok with the one for 110:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005OKQUJ6/?tag=pcpapi-20

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Seagate+-+Barracuda+2TB+Int...

It only has a one year warranty, but is more highly rated. You could also go with one that has a 3 year warranty:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007JUFKM2/?tag=pcpapi-20

I don't know how much you want to spend. but I don't think I'd spend any more. I think a 7200 rpm drive will be better than a green drive since it should last longer by not spinning up and down so much(or so I have read). You may want to download and run seatools on it a few times before you install any data. A reviewer on newegg said it helps to find any errors and iron them out up front so you don't have to worry about problems they may cause later.
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October 2, 2012 9:42:21 AM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j7sQ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j7sQ/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j7sQ/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z77 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($219.98 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($71.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.98 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($48.88 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Dell U2412M 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($297.49 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($91.04 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1859.29
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

So that's my build so far. Eventually going to add another 670, and i'm not sure if the ram will fit in with a cpu cooler in there, is there any way to find out without actually having the parts yet?
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October 2, 2012 11:48:21 AM

You might be forced to move your fans on your CPU cooler up a bit if you use that. Also, you should probably get at least 1600 MHz RAM.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/sectors/category/deal-of-the...
Today only deal on 16GB RAM that'll fit.

Also, I suggest getting the 7970 over the GTX670. It will be better at graphic work than the 670.
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October 2, 2012 7:24:03 PM

Quick reminders: windows 7 home premium sp1 64bit is limited to 16GB of system ram and op will do graphic design and wants 16GB of system ram. With that in mind, the kingston hyper x blu suggested is the best fit(it has more latency than some with CL10 though). Corsiar's Vengeance line is superior to their xms3 line, but the former is too little ram and the latter is too much. You may want to make sure whatever ram you pick is on the sabertooth's QVL(see the z77 sabertooth page at asus' site for details).
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October 2, 2012 7:53:08 PM

Drop the GTX 670, and get two GTX 660s, non TI version. They are $229 each and will get a lot more FPS than a single 670.
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October 2, 2012 8:06:34 PM

yea but see the issue with 2 cards is that you run into scaling with things that hes doing. some games don't utilize it. Also, you run into things like graphic cards using a bit more power and a bit more heat circulating in your case I think most people on these forums would suggest one good card over 2 for benchmarks SLI/CF looks amazing in practice no.

Also, I didn't see that he put windows home premium you could get windows 7 professional
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Which has a 192GB limit :p  on x64 bit
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop...

And the only reason I had suggested the low profile line the vengeance ones was because of the tall air cooler. I would agree though to go through Asus and see if that memory is supported but knowing that board I'm almost certain it will.
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October 2, 2012 10:11:04 PM

I agree about getting 1 powerful gpu vs 2 lesser ones.

Home premium is at the bottom of the build in (the op) JayNew's last post.

I agree ram with low profile heatspreaders are best(vs no heatspreaders and overheating or tall heatspreaders that may interfere with some cpu coolers)
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October 2, 2012 11:00:54 PM

Oh, nono I should of said I didn't see it initially when I looked back I saw it. I kind of like not having a ram limit wall since windows 8 sucks donkey parts.

yea I see a lot of people going into getting low profile because the cooling on the cpu is HUGE!
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October 5, 2012 5:12:31 AM

I did change the ram to G.Skill Sniper Low Voltage Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory. A little more expensive but it seems to have great reviews. On the windows end, should I go ahead and get Pro over Home being that its not that much more expensive?
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October 5, 2012 11:47:07 AM

If you need it.
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