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[radmanhs]

ok, this is my current build
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ilqR

i was wondering if i should spend the extra $ on the hyperthreading. i will be video editing and gaming, but im not sure how much of a performance boost there is over the 3570k

the evga 670 is $340 on ncix for now
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=7 [...] omoid=1210

and the xfx double d 7970 is the same price
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=6 [...] omoid=1210

i was wondering which one to get, because i am trying to save a little $ since the sale price is about a 7950 price. also i believe the evga 670 has a reference 680 pcb, not sure about the 7970, it is important that it is reference so i can watercool.

I was also looking at the reference galaxy gtx 680 on ncix for the price of a gtx 670, which i thought was a pretty good deal, maybe ill get that because i am watercooling later
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=70705&vpn=68NPH6DV5ZGV&manufacture=Galaxy%20Technology&promoid=1210

i know a 850w psu is overkill but im going to upgrade

also if i buy from a vender like ncix, newegg, amazon, or frys, if a couple parts like the aftermarket heatsink doesn't fit with the ram, can i just return it and buy a different one?

any other suggestions?

will ask more questions most likely, thanks!

ps. the ram is at bottom of list, getting that kind because im watercooling, and is going to be watecooled purely for looks

 

[dingo07]

what software do you use for editing video? the reason I ask is because APP CS5-6 suggests a RAID 0 for your project files (which is a min of 2 drives)

you should max out the RAM at 16GB either way

 

[radmanhs]

for basic edits like combining 2-3 clips, sony vegas, or after effects for anything else because of the vast options avalibe.. they suggest raid 0? never heard that idea before. thing is having 2 hhd's or ssd's will put me even further out of my budget, im out $100 now, but might be able to work with it.

what do you mean by maxing out the ram? getting 4X4gb sticks, or the speed? i thing having it as 2 sticks would be better in case if i need more for some reason, i can then add more

 

[mastrom101]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iV2V

Their are a few key things i corrected:
Much better CPU Cooler (If you're water cooling you don't even need it)
Swapped SSD
Switched to a 7970 clocked at 1GHz
Picked a cheaper PSU. You don't need 1000 watts, 750 is enough for Xfire.
You need Prof. for 16GB *No you don't, but it's helpful incase you wan't to add RAM later on.
Added a DVD Drive


Additional comments
Rather than spending money on water-cooling RAM, you could buy something useful.
You don't need a CPU cooler if you're going to water-cool.
Their are cheaper cases, buy you may want that one for aesthetic reasons so I left it.

Good Luck!

 

[radmanhs]

oops, here's my updated one
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iV6W

also, home premium says it supports up to 16gb or ram

 

[radmanhs]

and the 7970 you put on the list wasn't a ghz ed

 

[dingo07]

for basic edits like combining 2-3 clips, sony vegas, or after effects for anything else because of the vast options avalibe.. they suggest raid 0? never heard that idea before. thing is having 2 hhd's or ssd's will put me even further out of my budget, im out $100 now, but might be able to work with it.

what do you mean by maxing out the ram? getting 4X4gb sticks, or the speed? i thing having it as 2 sticks would be better in case if i need more for some reason, i can then add more

CS5 Classroom in a Book! Page 3
"Optimizing performance - Editing video is memory- and processor-intensive work for a desktop computer. A fast processor and a lot of memory will make your editing experience much faster and more efficient; 2 GB of memory is the minimum, and 8 GB or more is better for high-definition (HD) media. Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 takes advantage of multicore processors on Windows and Macintosh systems and will run on Macintosh computers with multicore Intel processors.

A dedicated 7200 RPM or faster hard drive is recommended for standard-definition (SD) or high-definition video (HDV) media. A RAID 0 striped disk array or SCSI disk subsystem is recommended for HD. Performance will be significantly affected if you attempt to store media files and program files on the same hard drive.

The Mercury Playback Engine in Adobe Premiere Pro can operate in software-only mode or GPU acceleration mode. The GPU acceleration mode provides significant performance improvement. The GPU acceleration is possible with select video cards. You can find a list of these video cards on the Adobe website at http://www.adobe.com/go/premiere_systemreqs."

On the side bar there's a Tip:
"A common disk configuration is to put the operating system and applications on drive 1, video and audio files on drive 2, and export files on drive 3. For HD work, drive 2 should be a RAID 0 striped disk array or SCSI disk subsystem."


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Don't forget the memory specs in the first paragraph are what's to be dedicated to the program, not physically installed for Windows to use.

The link above is broken, so here's what the information is really intended to be...
http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/system-requirements-premiere-pro.html

About the RAM - your version of Windows only supports 16GB of RAM, no more


Windows 7 Professional - 4 GB(32bit) / 192 GB(64bit)

Windows 7 Home Premium - 4 GB(32bit) / 16 GB(64bit)

Windows 7 Home Basic - 4GBbit) / 8GB(64bit)

 

[radmanhs]

ok, can you suggest a couple decent 500gb-640gb hhd that wont increase the price too much?

 

[dingo07]

is time = $$$$ with regard to your video editing, or is it just for fun?

if it's the latter, then forget about RAID 0

you can't just slap a couple drives together and expect them to perform in a RAID configuration

 

[radmanhs]

ya, its for fun, i know you cant just throw any random drives in and make them work, so could i still just use 1 hdd for hd, will it just be a bit slower?

 

[radmanhs]

also for the gpu, is there one of the ones that i mentioned that you would recommend most, like the 7970, 670 or 680, all of which are on sale, at least were

 

[dingo07]

680 of course - yeah on the drives

 

[radmanhs]

thanks, a bit over my budget, but i can make it work

 

[radmanhs]

latest build

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iVsq

the gpu isnt sale on pc picker so i chose one about the same price

other than that, do you think there is someway i could shave off a little, like if there are any super sales or anything

 

[dingo07]

You can save on the SSD and power supply, that's about it I think - keep a look out for deals