i am not too sure where i should post this inquiry considering it could deal with CPU, GPU, or even MoBo - but since it deals w/ graphics and rendering, i thought i might start it here.
I built a machine for my mums last year to do her 3D graphic work on. She had been using Bryce 7 mostly, but i found out that Bryce is ONLY designed to utilize 1 single core of any processor. yeah, pretty lame. So i got mum's interested in Eon Vue's Xstream. She's now fallen in love with and is using v10 but is now telling me she is having system lags and hangs. I also installed a little program for her called GameBooster which shuts down unneeded system resources etc, thus helping make her system run a little smoother - seems rendering isn't too much affected by this booster.
I am kind of at a small loss here - not sure which direction I should go for the most affordable route; 6 core cpu OR new GTX2xx gpu... i am pretty sure the mobo is not the issue here.
Please give me some valuable input here, or something for me to "chew on."
In other words some important specs that should be looked at or adhered to, to help me make some sort of decision regarding a budget.
When is it hanging? When working/designing or during rendering?
If it's the former, I'd look at Quadro 600. It would speed things up ALOT.
However, if rendering takes too long, you should upgrade the CPU.
Well she says when she works with the 'ecosystem' part of the program it is getting some lag, so that is 'working/designing'
But she also has a lot of lag when rendering.
I mean i know a better CPU & GPU would do the trick for sure, but i am trying to make mums happy for lowest cost. She know quite a bit about machines, and is prepared to spend new money on a new machine; but not too much, you know what i mean?
from what i read in the reviews the quatro 600 is an entry level CAD card; and i am just wondering how soon mums will grow out of that card.
what kind of specs/numbers should i be paying attention to when looking for a good 'workstation' card?
it looks like her current card and the Q600 both have 96 CUDA cores, but the Q600 offers other features I am not familiar with like; NVIDIA Scalable Geometry Engine, NVIDIA Parallel DataCache, NVIDIA GigaThread Engine, Fast 3D Texture Transfer, 64X Full-Scene Antialiasing (FSAA), and GPU Tessellation with Shader Model 5.0. And this card promises to only consume a max of 40W??!! her current GPU calls for a minimum of a 300W PSU (i don't know how many actual Watts it would be consuming).
Just by simply understanding the English language, I can see the greater benefit of using a workstation card for what she does versus using a gaming GPU with lots of power - i guess.
Another thing i find interesting is that there really are no Mhz clocks listed on workstation cards. Is that common? or is it just simply not a major enough factor?
I am safely assuming the DDR generation and OpenGL are the main factors on this card. OpenGL is only 4.0 but has GPU Tessellation with Shader Model 5.0.
i think i am rambling, and obviously don't know enough about workstation cards. i just assumed knowing gaming GPU's would translate over, but it seems this is not the case.
Do you have any more thoughts to input as to what could be a pro or con to using the workstation card to say the GTX560's?
It really looks like the higher end "pro" GPUs and "consumer" GPUs will help with Vue xStream. That being said, what kind of budget do you have to work with?
well 2 streets here;
1] GPU avenue
2] GPU avenue + CPU road
BUdget wise i can't exactly quote, but have informed mums we may be looking at a starting price of $150. She was ok with that, but wants to make sure this is a final avenue she can use for the next 2-3 years for sure. She will be sticking with Vue for some time i am sure of that, and with that in mind i wanna set her up do be able to work NOW and a good rate of performance.
i noticed today, AMD 965 Blacks are on sale for $90 for the next 2 days. would it be wise to up her to a better CPU also, or just get a snappin' GPU to get her work done?
I am starting to see the difference.
Like Paul said, workstation=creation, gaming=playback (a.k.a. content creation/content playback)
And this card looks to support 'Unified Firepro Driver' allowing the GPU to work with creation apps as well as playback of DirectX games.
Plus too the card has higher quality components versus the average gaming GPU. THAT is a MAJOR plus.
Workstation cards specification may seem low. However, I've tested Nvidia Quadro 600 with 96 cores side by side with my own GTX 560 Ti - 384 cores. To my amazement, even though the Quadro is cheaper, in 3D design environment it felt much faster than the GTX, I could display much more polygons on screen before it became laggy.
i am an nVidia guy from way back, but I believe this to be without question THE best card for needs, performance, support, and capabilities.
you know, i thought this very morning when someone said they were sorry to a thread that they couldn't pick a best answer - i thought how lame... man, give it to SOMEone!! but you know what? I am finding myself in this very same predicament right now.
Folks, I am sorry i cannot choose a "the best answer" today.
BOTH of you were of great help and I now know for a fact from both ends of the realm (nVidia & AMD) you both are spot on in knowing what was happening here in this thread and what is good equipment.
Cheers to you both - and thank you both very much for your help.