Thinking of switching to AMD

[Dingleberg]

So with tax returns coming out very soon, I thought about giving amd a try for their cpu line. I figure that $250 for the fx 6300, with this mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128521 and a good aftermarket cooler would do me better than my current rig from when I first built my pc. I have right now an i3 2130, some msi mobo I picked up for about $50, and the stock cooler. Budget of $250 at most to go in for a quality cooler. What do you guys think? Also I will definitely be overclocking it. Another bonus would be getting to use the full speed of my 1600MHz ram. Sorry for being sort of all over the place too.

 

[lazyboy947]

For overclocking for amd get the $100 gigabyte 970, as it has a 8+2 power phase, and the one ur thinking of does not, nor does it have a heatsink for the vrms. For overclocking the heatsinks and the power phase is needed, air cooler get a cooler master hyper 212 evo with push/pull, if u want get leds replace the one it comes with, or for performance the corsair ones that were made for use with heatsinks like the h100 etc

 

[lostgamer_03]

Look at these numbers.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-processor-frame-rate-performance,review-32628-9.html

Now think again.

I would stay where you're right now or upgrade to an i5 or i7, if you really want to see some difference with your performance in gaming. You wouldn't have to go use money on a new MOBO either, which would save you money.

 

[Dingleberg]

Look at these numbers.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-processor-frame-rate-performance,review-32628-9.html

Now think again.

I would stay where you're right now or upgrade to an i5 or i7, if you really want to see some difference with your performance in gaming. You wouldn't have to go use money on a new MOBO either, which would save you money.

Im focused more on the actual processing power and from what I have seen, the 6300 is mostly better than the 2130. Plus with the power to oc I can extend that even further. I also don't want to spend a lot of money on all of this.

 

[payturr]

If you're gaming, the FX-6300 is certainly no upgrade over a Core i3. If video rendering, yes. I say just replace your current CPU.

 

[Dingleberg]

If you're gaming, the FX-6300 is certainly no upgrade over a Core i3. If video rendering, yes. I say just replace your current CPU.

Alright, thank you.

 

[yamahahornist]

Processing power means nothing if they suck in the real world. The fx 8350 has 8 cores @4.2ghz and it still cant touch the i5 3570k....... Think about what your saying.

 

[lazyboy947]

true, if u have a decent motherboard to overclock spend most of ur budget on an i5, the 6300 can be overclocked to reach the 8350, which is not that much worse than an i5

 

[payturr]

true, if u have a decent motherboard to overclock spend most of ur budget on an i5, the 6300 can be overclocked to reach the 8350, which is not that much worse than an i5

Yeah but realistically, guys, AMD isn't the right company to invest in right now unless you want amazing multithreaded performance on budget or great integrated graphics.. I say wait another year if you wanna invest for Steamroller, or just don't invest until they're making regular native x86 cores again as opposed to modules.

 

[lazyboy947]

Well processing power in multi threaded or single threaded applications? And the 8350 can touch the i5, its not better but it comes awfully close for the $40 difference

 

[payturr]

Well processing power in multi threaded or single threaded applications? And the 8350 can touch the i5, its not better but it comes awfully close for the $40 difference

Its single threaded performance is on below that of a Sandy Bridge Pentium at 3.0GHz.

 

[Dingleberg]

Processing power means nothing if they suck in the real world. The fx 8350 has 8 cores @4.2ghz and it still cant touch the i5 3570k....... Think about what your saying.

Actually you should think about what I am saying. I am not talking about clockspeed, I am talking about how exactly it performs against another in a various string of benchmarks.

 

[payturr]

Actually you should think about what I am saying. I am not talking about clockspeed, I am talking about how exactly it performs against another in a various string of benchmarks.

It actually beats out the i5, but only in a few benchmarks.. Honestly, for 200$ I rather invest in a locked 3470. AMD, again, only good to invest in right now if you want multithreaded performance. The multithreaded performance offers nothing for gaming but something for other areas.

 

[Dingleberg]

It actually beats out the i5, but only in a few benchmarks.. Honestly, for 200$ I rather invest in a locked 3470. AMD, again, only good to invest in right now if you want multithreaded performance. The multithreaded performance offers nothing for gaming but something for other areas.

? I'm not talking about the i5 though. I'm talking about the i3-2130 not performing as well as the fx 6300 in multiple benchmarks.

 

[smokeybravo]

Try an A10-6800K when they come out next month. They're supposedly on par with the FX-8350 at stock speeds in PC Mark 7. GPU perfmorance is going to be ridiculously good for integrated graphics. And you can crossfire them with 7xxx series video cards. This is going to be the CPU to get for 2013 I think. I saw the benchmarks for an i7 Haswell chip and they weren't much better than Ivy. Then again it might not have been a final product.

 

[payturr]

? I'm not talking about the i5 though. I'm talking about the i3-2130 not performing as well as the fx 6300 in multiple benchmarks.

Ah, I saw him talking about Core i5s so.. But again, thats only multithreaded performance. If you're thinking on upgrading for gaming, if anything you'll get worse FPS.

 

[lazyboy947]

single thread performance is bad on the fx line, but wins in multi thread, i guess it may not to worth going to the fx, but as mentioned overclocking put the 6300 near a 8350, the i3 does not overclock that great, could go i5 if ur current motherboard allows u too overclock it.

At ur $250 budget, either spend it on an overclockable 6300, with aftermarket cooler, plus motheroard, or spend it all on an i5 with enough left over to get a CM hyper 212.

Im guessing if u go fx ur keeping the i3?

 

[payturr]

? I'm not talking about the i5 though. I'm talking about the i3-2130 not performing as well as the fx 6300 in multiple benchmarks.

Ah, I saw him talking about Core i5s so.. But again, thats only multithreaded performance. If you're thinking on upgrading for gaming, if anything you'll get worse FPS.

 

[Dingleberg]

single thread performance is bad on the fx line, but wins in multi thread, i guess it may not to worth going to the fx, but as mentioned overclocking put the 6300 near a 8350, the i3 does not overclock that great, could go i5 if ur current motherboard allows u too overclock it.

At ur $250 budget, either spend it on an overclockable 6300, with aftermarket cooler, plus motheroard, or spend it all on an i5 with enough left over to get a CM hyper 212.

Im guessing if u go fx ur keeping the i3?

If I go fx I will probably sell the i3 and the mobo on ebay along with my "even longer ago" G860. I do play games though and the i3 is working fairly well for right now so I might as well get the 3570k and a cooler now like you are saying and buy a new mobo with money from the i3 and G860, then swap out mobos and sell the old one.

 

[rds1220]

It actually beats out the i5, but only in a few benchmarks.. Honestly, for 200$ I rather invest in a locked 3470. AMD, again, only good to invest in right now if you want multithreaded performance. The multithreaded performance offers nothing for gaming but something for other areas.

I agree if you really want to upgrade and see a performance difference go with an I5.

 

[lazyboy947]

If I go fx I will probably sell the i3 and the mobo on ebay along with my "even longer ago" G860. I do play games though and the i3 is working fairly well for right now so I might as well get the 3570k and a cooler now like you are saying and buy a new mobo with money from the i3 and G860, then swap out mobos and sell the old one.

Sounds like a plan, id go for the asrock z77 extreme 4 as its pretty cheap and is this websites recommended buy. With ur current board im guessing it only has support for sandy bridge, if u get a 3570k, ull need to see if theres a bios update to take ivy bridge and use the i3 or g860 to update it

 

[Dingleberg]

Sounds like a plan, id go for the asrock z77 extreme 4 as its pretty cheap and is this websites recommended buy. With ur current board im guessing it only has support for sandy bridge, if u get a 3570k, ull need to see if theres a bios update to take ivy bridge and use the i3 or g860 to update it

Just found the mobo box. Turns out it is an MSI B75MA-E33 with uefi bios and it is ivy bridge ready so I don't have to worry about the mobo till I start overclocking. Also let me ask, is there a noticible difference in speed between 1333MHz and 1600MHz for ram?

 

[payturr]

Not really, don't buy new RAM unless you need more.

 

[Dingleberg]

Not really, don't buy new RAM unless you need more.

I was just curious because I have a set of 1600MHz which had to be downclocked to be used by my 2130. Just seeing if I would notice any sort of gain there.

 

[littleleo]

With the i5-3570K you can run your ram at 1600 no problem. I bought my i5-3570K at MicroCenter for $189. For a motherboard your MSI is okay when your ready you could try a GIGABYTE GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP $116 or GA-Z77X-UD3H $154.