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October 1, 2012 12:04:19 AM

Evening, morning ;)  depends on the country you live in. I'm going to buy new PC and want to know what you guys think about my picks.

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: this week or the next one

Budget Range: (e.g.: 300-400) Before / After Rebates; Before / After Shipping: Gonna buy it from local online shop(as I know if I let them build it, I also get a warranty for 3 years), for what I counted the price of PC is going to be around $2500~, its not exactly accurate because of bank currency exchange where I live to USD ones.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (e.g.: Folding@Home, gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies): I want it for gaming, not the really most hardcore one with insane stuff(NASA PC). Secondary for surfing the internet/watching streams, some few movies maybe(I usually watch movies on Yamaha, or my ps3 with 3D, surround etc). Also maybe for rendering videos, using photoshop, adobe flash etc. (Anyway not really necessary, cos this PC I'm using now will be for that kind of stuff).

Are you buying a monitor: No, I have a TV for the GPU I choosed. This monitor at the moment I'm using is 1680x1050, my TV is 1920x1080.

Parts to Upgrade: (e.g.: CPU, mobo, RAM) **Include Power Supply Make & Model If Re-using**: Brand new PC

Do you need to buy OS: Yes
Please note that if you're using an OEM license of Windows, you will need a new one when buying a new motherboard.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (e.g.: newegg.com, ncix.com -- to show us selection & pricing)

Location: City, State/Region, Country - we need to know where these parts are being assembled and whether there are good store-only deals available: Norway

Parts Preferences: by brand or type (e.g.: I would like to upgrade to Intel CPU): Sapphire, Intel 3d Ivy bridge, AMD, WD, Cooler Master, Asus, Corsair

Overclocking: Would like to

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe, in the future, at the moment I'm good with one.

Your Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050, but I have the TV which functions as monitor and is 1920x1080.

Additional Comments: It doesn't really matter if its a bit loud, my current one gets into "Air plane" as we call it, when system is outdated for a game. Games I will play: Saints Row 3, GTA5, HL3(whenever it comes out and if its available for PC), Metro 2033, small games like orc must die, magicka etc, Witcher, Dirt 3, Total War: Shogun, Splinter Cell conviction, Sleeping Dogs, some classic series like NFS and so on. Also playing at the moment guild wars 2, and this PC is struggling sometimes, especially in World vs World. FPS is about 30-40 normally, in WvW it drops, or in some better graphically designed areas. Note: I couldn't play The Witcher 2 on lowest graphic, game was running like in pictures if you get what I mean, don't know the term for it in English :) 

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Can't run games on settings like High anymore, before 2-3 years my PC was fine, it even ran starcraft 2 on high/ultra, since the purchase of my system I haven't reinstalled windows, which also made it run slower, now I'm running starcraft 2 on normal~. Also some of the GPU updates fucked up with some of my games like sc2. Also technology, including games is moving forward, and upgrading my Dell PC would be a waste in my opinion. The rig is probably is way to small for parts I want. Still it is a good PC, Dell Studio XPS 435MT. Having an AMD 4800GPU and Intel Core i7 CPU 920 @ 267GHz (8CPUs), ~2.7GHz is pretty amazing that it ran crysis 2 on medium/high, starcraft 2 on high/ultra. But its time for games has passed, which in a way is sad for me. Will definetely keep this PC and use for other stuff(as a nostalgia, collectible :D  ). Even thought I live with my family at the moment, being a student. My dad mentioned that I could give it to him, for use with his Yamaha system, projector, printer etc, which I intend to do.

List of parts by using Newegg(not my retailer, just to make it easier for you guys):
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ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model CMZ16GX3M4X1600C9 - retail (I think this is it which I found on my retailer 4x4gb)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2BAA 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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Western Digital® Desktop Black 1TB - retailer (didn't found on Newegg, think this is it)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=50895&vpn=WD1002FAEX&manu...
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CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply - retailer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (I doubt 750W will be enaught? so here are the links for 850W ones)

CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX850 (CMPSU-850AX) 850W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply - retailer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Silver Power SP-S850M 850W PSU - not retailer, review with a price in Euros
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/power_supply/silver_...
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Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K - retailer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Been also looking at this one, many say I should consider it over 3770K one, also its cheaper. (Even toms hardware has an article for a CPU above $200 to choose this one)

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K - retailer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB GDDR5/with sleeping dogs - retailer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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LITE-ON Black 4X BD-ROM 8X DVD-ROM 32X CD-ROM SATA Internal 4X Blu-ray Reader Model iHOS104-06 - OEM - retailer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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Microsoft Win Ultimate 7 - retailer (seems like prices varies on Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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CORSAIR CWCH60 Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler - retailer (In fact I don't know if I even need it)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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Comment: I didn't checked all of the parts prices on Newegg, but some seem to be expensive, others cheaper etc. The price I listed before for my PC build, is with discounts and regular prices they are offering parts to me in total. So as I said, its not accurate, it may be more expensive if you sum all up from Newegg.

Also would like to know if everything listed here would be compatible and run smoothly, and help me choose the damn CPU and PSU, and give some advices on some of the parts. Maybe some of the parts perform better than others and are cheaper or so on. I've been also looking at MSI Z77A-GD55 motherboard, but I dislike its design a little, and the old mouse connector thingy. Technology has made a big step already, were using USB for mouses etc, and MSI still have the old mouse connector or whatever you call it. Also I could get a better CPU for this PC but I don't think I need it? Here are the ones I heard are decent enaught for gaming i7-3820, i7-3930K, i7-3960X, expensive ones thought. May seem like I'm building a beast PC or so, but just making sure for the next few years, may also go crossfire in the future.

Well waiting for replies, thanks by the way to those that are willing to help.
October 1, 2012 12:11:40 AM

You have an excellent build, but if this is going to be used for gaming only then I would get a i5-3570k instead of the i7.

Your GPU choice of the 7970 is great, if you want to crossfire later down the road, then the TX 750w PSU will do fine I believe, I'll have someone else comment on this one.

I would go for 8GB of RAM, so a 2x4GB configuration rather than the 4x4GB. Games do not need 16GB of RAM, let alone 8GB. 8GB would be ideal right now.


Again, if you are using the PC for gaming ONLY then I'd suggest changing the parts to what I have said above. It'll save you a couple hundred.
October 1, 2012 12:11:48 AM

By the way about The Witcher 2, my friend has an old nvidia GPU and it ran smoothly for him on normal, it may be that AMD at the time I tried to play the game didn't fixed fps problems. Even after 1-2updates on my GPU I still had the problem, there were other that also had this problem with 4800HD series and said that upcoming updates will fix it.
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October 1, 2012 12:18:03 AM

echondo said:
You have an excellent build, but if this is going to be used for gaming only then I would get a i5-3570k instead of the i7.

Your GPU choice of the 7970 is great, if you want to crossfire later down the road, then the TX 750w PSU will do fine I believe, I'll have someone else comment on this one.

I would go for 8GB of RAM, so a 2x4GB configuration rather than the 4x4GB. Games do not need 16GB of RAM, let alone 8GB. 8GB would be ideal right now.


Again, if you are using the PC for gaming ONLY then I'd suggest changing the parts to what I have said above. It'll save you a couple hundred.

Aye been thinking 8gigs or 16gig. Cos I know 8gig of RAM is plenty! and if I would need more in the future, I can just buy 2x4gb again. Seems like i5-3570k is getting most love from me and others. So now I'm just wondering about PSU woltage and what kind of brand. By the way I've seen Seagate Barracuda 1TB hard drive, but I red that many people have problems with it like "errors". Got WD 3TB external, I even droped it once, still works fine, no sound of broken needle whatsoever or anything else. Seems like me and my dad prefer WD over all other hard drives. Thanks by the way for reply, now whats left to hear other people advices :)  As they say, different people different opinions.

By the way should I get water cooler for CPU? The one that I linked.
October 1, 2012 12:20:06 AM

Will i5-3570k CPU allow me to work with Sony Vegas, photoshop and multitasking smoothly? (Sorry for double post, didn't allow me to edit previous one)
October 1, 2012 12:26:52 AM

Domke said:

By the way should I get water cooler for CPU? The one that I linked.


I prefer Western Digital hard drives as well. I would only get a CPU cooler if you plan on overclocking. If you do then the H60 would be a nice cooler, but I would go more the route of a Cooler Master Hyper 212+/evo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Domke said:
Will i5-3570k CPU allow me to work with Sony Vegas, photoshop and multitasking smoothly? (Sorry for double post, didn't allow me to edit previous one)


I use a i5-2500k for Sony Vegas actually, it is very nice and smooth as well. But if you are going to render videos a lot, then go for the i7-3770k, that is what the i7 is meant to do.

i5 is for gaming, i7 is for video editing/3d work.

And the same goes for RAM. 8GB is for gaming while 16GB will be useful for 3d work.

I have 16GB of RAM myself, but I've only hit 7GB used while rendering videos on Sony Vegas and doing some word document work. When I render videos in Sony Vegas and doing nothing else on the PC, I only use around 4GB-5GB max.

October 1, 2012 7:46:37 AM

so 750W PSU is enaught for 1 single card and so many parts(including lets say one of those 2 coolers)?

Also forgot to link my rig, here it is:

COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case - retailer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


October 1, 2012 8:58:23 AM

Domke said:
Will i5-3570k CPU allow me to work with Sony Vegas, photoshop and multitasking smoothly? (Sorry for double post, didn't allow me to edit previous one)

Stick with the 3770K and a 750w psu should cover all your needs even if you decide to add another one of those cards later on.
October 1, 2012 11:26:49 AM

Why_Me said:
Stick with the 3770K and a 750w psu should cover all your needs even if you decide to add another one of those cards later on.

Damn, it was only one of Corsair bronze 750W PSU left, somebody just bought it. Only 850W Gold one left, maybe I should ask them to order one more for my PC. By the way is it smart idea to let them do the job of building my PC? They don't charge anything aslong as I buy all parts for the PC to be built, I also get 3year warranty. I just wonder if I gonna get all the accesories(that come with different parts) that won't be used in the process, maybe I should ask them before I buy. Thanks by the way

Also whats better bronze or gold corsair?
October 1, 2012 6:22:50 PM

Domke said:
Damn, it was only one of Corsair bronze 750W PSU left, somebody just bought it. Only 850W Gold one left, maybe I should ask them to order one more for my PC. By the way is it smart idea to let them do the job of building my PC? They don't charge anything aslong as I buy all parts for the PC to be built, I also get 3year warranty. I just wonder if I gonna get all the accesories(that come with different parts) that won't be used in the process, maybe I should ask them before I buy. Thanks by the way

Also whats better bronze or gold corsair?

If the Gold version of that psu is in your budget I would go for it.
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