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October 4, 2012 11:42:13 PM

Hey guys, I've been browsing this site for awhile and it seems like everyone is quite helpful when it comes helping another person out. I would like your help/opinion on the build I've posted below. I would be really appreciative if you guys can weigh in on your opinion if there is something wrong or something better for the build.

Approximate Purchase Date: Next month

Budget Range: 1300 US after rebate, before shipping. If needed, I can probably add another 100 or so if you deem it fit.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Games is the highest priority

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I don't know many computer website but any is fine.

Location: California, USA.

Parts Preferences: No preference, as long as it has great performance and is reliable

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I wouldn't mind a quiet PC but who wouldn't right? Though it doesnt bother me much but it would be nice.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: My last PC is 5+ years old and I think its time to upgrade. I would like to finally be able to experience games like it was meant to be instead of trying to play games at the lowest possible settings and turning all effects off. Overall, just to have a faster PC.

Here is what I've researched so far. This build does not have a case, so if you can suggest some, that would be great.
PCPartPicker

Again, your help and opinion on making this build better is really appreciative.

Thanks for your time!

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October 4, 2012 11:54:17 PM

You have a $1300 budget. Don't skimp on the storage. And for not that much more the 7970GHz edition is a better card than the GTX 670. And make sure that Vengeance RAM is low profile or don't buy it.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($30.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($142.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS224-06 DVD/CD Writer ($27.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1306.76
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
October 4, 2012 11:54:40 PM

id suggest this
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jnao

-faster SSD
-has a very good case (if you want to save some money, go with a antec 302 instead)
-much better power supply (capstone is made by superflower. which is just as good as seasonic)
-slightly better gtx670
-slightly better motherboard
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October 5, 2012 1:45:20 AM

TheBigTroll said:
id suggest this
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jnao

-faster SSD
-has a very good case (if you want to save some money, go with a antec 302 instead)
-much better power supply (capstone is made by superflower. which is just as good as seasonic)
-slightly better gtx670
-slightly better motherboard


Can you recommend another case? Im not aesthetically pleased with how this case looks, haha. Plus, would you recommend that I spend a little more to get the 7970? Just asking these questions because I think in the end I would go with this build, exactly how you listed it. Or might go with what g-unit suggested, unless anyone else has differing opinions.

Thanks again for the help.
October 5, 2012 1:47:03 AM

Lol!Are you guys in a match or what if i see a thread and you did a build in it i just move along because i know your not recommending bad things so i don't need to step in but you two post in the same thread what's wrong with either of builds both look fine ahahaha
October 5, 2012 2:00:17 AM

o.k. was just wondering lol
October 5, 2012 3:14:20 AM

TheBigTroll said:
hows this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

@bigcyco: nope. i post on a thread whenever there is less than 4 people that have already posted


I do that too. :lol: 

If you want a different case suggestion maybe try this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'd also suggest these for SSD:

- OCZ Vertex 4: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Corsair Neutron: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Samsung 830: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
October 5, 2012 3:35:39 AM

okay here is what i suggested for a $1300 build..

http://www.microcenter.com/product/354589/Core_i5_2500K...
Core i5 2500K - $160

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UP4 TH - $165

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB CML8GX3M2A1600C9 - $42

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 - $20

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128B/WW - $90

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
XFX PRO850W XXX Edition - $120

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Military Green - $120

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB - $85

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
XFX Double D FX-797A-TDFC - $370

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
LG DVD Burner GH24NS90 - $17

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - $100

total after rebate exclude shipping - $1289


since you maybe oc or sli/cfx later.. which is why i suggest a 850w psu otherwise with one card a 650w unit is more than enough...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
XFX P1-650X-XXB9 650W - $95 after rebate

and if you really want a nvidia gpu.. this will do for you..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Galaxy 67NPH6DV5ZVX GeForce GTX 670 GC - $380

and there's nothing wrong spend a little bit more for your case.. since it is going to house your components for the next five years.. probably go through several builds... u might change your cpu... graphics card but certainly not your case while it is still good enough...
October 5, 2012 4:47:47 AM

After seeing some videos of that the case looks like, I've grown quite fond of the Fractal case.

PCPartPicker

This is basically TheBigTroll's build with a change in the GPU from the gtx 670 to the 7970.

Again, lay your opinion out there if you think there should be a change for the better.
October 5, 2012 5:32:53 AM

Mortiz said:
After seeing some videos of that the case looks like, I've grown quite fond of the Fractal case.

PCPartPicker

This is basically TheBigTroll's build with a change in the GPU from the gtx 670 to the 7970.

Again, lay your opinion out there if you think there should be a change for the better.


As great as the Samsung 830 is - you would definitely be wise to consider the Corsair Neutron and OCZ Vertex 4 (yes, I now own a Vertex 4 and it's been a good drive so far).
October 5, 2012 7:21:35 AM

Is that the only thing you would change?
October 5, 2012 10:33:28 AM

i still wouldnt bother with reference designed gtx670. run pretty hot and are pretty loud.
October 5, 2012 12:16:54 PM

CASE : NZXT Guardian 921 RB $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU : Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo). $229.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MotherBoard: GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H LGA 1155. $154.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphic Card : EVGA GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5. $499.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU : CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W 80 PLUS BRONZE. $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD : Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB. $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM : CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600. $43.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive: SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner 22X. $16.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler : COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO. $30.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS : Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit $139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

TOTAL : $1387

You have all the components that can max out any game to ultra with nice FPS.
GOOD LUCK :) 
October 5, 2012 12:18:11 PM

mrdowntownkiller said:
CASE : NZXT Guardian 921 RB $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU : Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo). $229.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MotherBoard: GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H LGA 1155. $154.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphic Card : EVGA GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5. $499.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU : CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W 80 PLUS BRONZE. $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD : Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB. $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM : CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600. $43.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive: SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner 22X. $16.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler : COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO. $30.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS : Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit $139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

TOTAL : $1387

You have all the components that can max out any game to ultra with nice FPS.
GOOD LUCK :) 


you can build better than this
October 5, 2012 12:48:06 PM

TheBigTroll said:
you can build better than this

want better , pay more ..
i want to see your build suggestion for him
October 5, 2012 12:56:59 PM

Yes you really can build better than this... GUnit already did and im going to try and improve on his build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3820 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI X79A-GD45 (8D) ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($169.50 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($387.86 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($79.98 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($24.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($91.77 @ Amazon)
Total: $1275.03
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

It's overall superior to any of the builds stated above.It is also far more future proof, because it's based on the LGA 2011 platform.

And ugh another thing.The GTX 670 is quite a bit slower than the HD 7970 GHZ Edition.It's also less overclockable.
October 5, 2012 1:08:49 PM

Kamen_BG said:
Yes you really can build better than this... GUnit already did and im going to try and improve on his build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3820 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI X79A-GD45 (8D) ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($169.50 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($387.86 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($79.98 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($24.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($91.77 @ Amazon)
Total: $1275.03
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

It's overall superior to any of the builds stated above.It is also far more future proof, because it's based on the LGA 2011 platform.

And ugh another thing.The GTX 670 is quite a bit slower than the HD 7970 GHZ Edition.It's also less overclockable.


hes gaming not working. x79 doesnt make sense. and there wont be 2011 i5s

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October 5, 2012 1:15:06 PM
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mrdowntownkiller said:
want better , pay more ..
i want to see your build suggestion for him


lets go
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jpFB

-the 7970s are faster than a 680 in most games other than bf3
-my up4 has a completely new power design and has thunderbolt
-windows pro makes no sense when you cant put more than 16gb ram
-my ram is cheaper and is just as good
-i have a ssd
- have a way better case
-much better power supply (made by superflower which is just as good as seasonic who makes most of corsairs higher end psus)

i can even go more expensive by going to a higher end cooler and motherboard

my other build with a gtx670

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jnao
October 5, 2012 1:45:11 PM

♦ well the GTX 680 is better than the 7970.
♦ about the OS he can pick what is suitable for his needs.
♦ about the ram the 3 bucks will not save his life , and i choose the corsair for its good reputation.
♦ about the PSU i recommend it for him as my friend had it and he is happy with it.
♦ the SSD is nice would go for it if he have an extra 50 buck. +1
♦ the Case i think it has a good air flow and a very nice looking with the lcd that tell u the Temp . fan controller and anyway he can choose another its up to him.

TheBigTroll we are just discussing here , have a nice day my friend :)  :) 
October 5, 2012 1:51:27 PM

680 vs 7970 ghz edition
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/618?vs=555

all ram is the same.

well my psu is more efficient, modular, and about the same in price

well your build was 1387 as you said. but i can put more in that budget

there are much better cases than the guardian series


October 5, 2012 2:15:21 PM

this benchmarks for nvidia stock card not the overclocked by the the factories like evga and gigabyte for example + most of the modern games like bf3 the gtx 680 perform much better.
October 5, 2012 2:18:47 PM

well you could also argue that most cards from amd will also be overclocked. and amd cards tend to scale better than nvidia cards

not all games. the first set of benchmarks, the 7970 whoops the 680s ass
October 5, 2012 8:20:37 PM

IMO the best cards right now are SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 7970 GHz Edition 3GB and Asus gtx 680 Top or MSI 670 PE and yes i read the report about the card it's bs i have two they work fine
October 6, 2012 12:14:39 AM

msi lightning is better than asus top.

the article is pretty much true but if you are overvolting, you should already know that it could damage the card if you are doing it wrong
October 6, 2012 12:16:24 AM

ou only heard one story.I honestly think this is from a new batch it's because MSI is trying to keep their customers happy but NV is really bulling them about voltage locking.The issue is msi has already sold millions of these product claiming the voltage is unlocked.I can understand they had to try to do something to keep customers happy, but at the same time follow NV rule.Well this put MSI in a very bad position.Clearly it was wrong what they did.I understand why though people shouldn't be so mad at msi it's NV they should be pissed at but enough of all that talk.I don't want to get into a big debate about it.Bottom line... msi has to back up their warranty on the cards.I have two msi 670 PE not a dam thing wrong with them.I think this might be something they only did with the 660 ti and 660 not sure but i wouldn't return my cards even if they asked me to lol! There something bigger going on then most are catching onto but i am not going to say because i don't want to be involved. I will give you a hint i have oc stable 1285/1852 on both of them,hmmm... i am lying that's not possible lol sure it's not.Believe what you want doesn't matter to me.
October 6, 2012 12:17:19 AM

TheBigTroll said:
msi lightning is better than asus top.

the article is pretty much true but if you are overvolting, you should already know that it could damage the card if you are doing it wrong
msi lightning is good to i am not sure which is better ;) 
October 6, 2012 12:24:54 AM

msi had to make new lightnings that had locked voltages. same goes for their 660ti and 670s.

heres what hardware canucks said about the gtx 680 lightning cooler

"In addition, the Twin Frozr IV heatsink played David to ASUS’ gigantic Goliath by beating its much larger triple slot competitor in thermal and acoustical testing."

"MSI now has the fastest GTX 680 we’ve tested"

October 6, 2012 12:29:33 AM

TheBigTroll said:
msi had to make new lightnings that had locked voltages. same goes for their 660ti and 670s.

heres what hardware canucks said about the gtx 680 lightning cooler

"In addition, the Twin Frozr IV heatsink played David to ASUS’ gigantic Goliath by beating its much larger triple slot competitor in thermal and acoustical testing."

"MSI now has the fastest GTX 680 we’ve tested"
Yeah all voltages are locked now i think but you can get a good bump by re flashing to the org. bios ;) 
October 6, 2012 12:44:42 AM

well the new ones are. the originals arent touched
October 6, 2012 12:50:58 AM

Just spent 20 minutes writing a very long explanation for the changes I would make and lost it, but here it is in quasi-abridged format. Keep in mind this is not based on personal experience with any of these components, but rather a good amount of research I've done with a very similar price point. Not advice but an opinion.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($189.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($297.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill BlackHawk ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On ihes112-04 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($91.75 @ Amazon)
Total: $1257.21
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

To illustrate very quickly why:

CPU: Vastly diminishing returns on performance above the i-3570k. It seems to be consensus among the hardware-pro community.

MOBO: Considered one of the most reliable and OC friendly boards on the market. Asus has a great track record, too. I realize moving to a LGA1155 board changes your entire build, but it will perform just as well. Consider this board an upgraded afforded by the switch to a i-3570k.

RAM: It's faster for a little more- why not?

SSD: Although the Samsung 830 and the OCZ Vertex 4 are comparable, the OCZ outperforms the Samsung. It's another $10. You may not notice it, but think of how many hours of your life you've already spent waiting for data to load or transfer. Edit: nevermind. they're the same price.

GPU: Being a longtime Nvidia fanboy myself, it's hard to admit it but the Radeon HD 7950 is at a very sweet price point. Almost all benchmarks and tests shown that it can keep up with the Nvidia flagship card, and it's $100 cheaper. The 3GB of ram on the Sapphire HD 7950 will also grant you even BETTER performance in the future when games begin to take advantage of even larger amounts of vram.

PSU: If you won't be going SLI (which you shouldn't if you're getting a Tier 1 card- it's always better to have one very good card than two slightly-lesser ones) you dont need a 750W PSU. At most, you will draw 500 watts. Corsair is also a consistently solid maker of supplys. OCZ can be iffy when it comes to PSUs, and the last thing you want to skimp on is the unit that either makes or breaks your entire rig.

CASE: It seems to be extremely well liked by enthusiast and first time builders. 5 stars after 317 reviews (only 3 1 stars, no two stars) in addition to being given two thumbs up by TH. But it's all personal preference, as many would agree. Take this with a grain of salt.

OPTICAL: I guarantee in four years that bluray will be the preferred format even if DVD will still be standard for most physical format media. It all depends on whether or not it's worth $30 for the forward compatibility.

Hope this helps you in any way.
October 6, 2012 9:26:44 AM

Best answer selected by Mortiz.
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