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October 5, 2012 7:52:47 AM

Please rate and/or suggest the current part selection I have. Any help is appreciated.

Approximate Purchase Date: Q1 2013 (After Tax Return)

Budget Range: $1500 After Rebates/Shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Guild Wars 2 max settings primarily as well as other MMOs, RTS, and occasionally FPS. Live streaming Guild Wars 2 at 720p.

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Links will be from www.newegg.com but I am fine purchasing from other trusted websites.

Location: City, State/Region, Country - Virginia, USA

Parts Preferences: I'd prefer using Intel and Nvidia.

Overclocking: Moderate overclocking. I will mainly only be overclocking to speeds that are already well documented to be safe.

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe but preferably not now.

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920 x 1080

Why Are You Upgrading: My current PC (Q6600, Dual HD 4850s) is not capable of max settings or livestreaming at a decent resolution.

Include a list of any parts you have already selected with descriptively labeled links for parts. Please do not post only links.

Case - NZXT SWITCH 810 Black CA-SW810-B1 Steel / Plastic ATX HYBRID Full Tower Gaming Computer Case - Retail

PSU - ENERMAX NAXN 82+ ENM750AWT 750W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

Mobo - ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

CPU - Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I72600K - Retail

Graphics - MSI N660 Ti PE 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - Retail

RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9Q-16GBXL - Retail

SSD - Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - Retail

HD - Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - Retail

Optical - ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM

Wireless Adapter - ASUS PCE-N15 Wireless Adapter IEEE 802.11b/g/n PCI Express 300/300Mbps Transfer/Receive Rate 64-bit WEP, 128-bit WEP, WPA2-PSK, WPA-PSK, WPS support - Retail


Do you think I will need:
CPU Fan/Heatsink - ZALMAN CNPS9500 AT 2 Ball CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink - Retail

I want to have a clean looking case but I hate the look of the giant copper heatsink in the above link. I will be throwing in as many fans as my case can handle and do not intend on liquid cooling this setup at any time.

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October 5, 2012 8:46:30 AM

so if you're only looking for gaming i don't think i7 2600k suits for that.. an i5 2500k would do... also... if you're looking to sli/crossfire in the future it is better to get 850watts unit to give more headroom... maybe you and i also prefer nvidia... but currently nothing beats the hd 7950 which can be picked under $300... which is faster than gtx 660ti at stock speeds... not to mention after it is overclocked... and about the case.. i know it's depend on personal preference.. but i think the case build quality is slightly flimsy... and not to mention its glossy plastic is easily scratched and fingerprint magnet.. but i think it is better you keep at one graphics card only.. as sli/crossfire is quite dependant on driver update to achieve optimum performance.. but which isn't the case with single card... and not to mention higher power consumption as well...

http://www.microcenter.com/product/354589/Core_i5_2500K...
Core i5 2500K - $160

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MSI Z77A-G43 - $100

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB CML8GX3M2A1600C9 - $42

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 - $20

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC256B/WW - $200

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB - $85

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
XFX P1-650X-XXB9 650W - $95

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Military Green - $120

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
XFX Double D FX-795A-TDJC - $270

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
LG DVD Burner GH24NS90 - $17


total after rebate excluding shipping - $1109


but still... if you keen out on trying sli/crossfirex then these what i would recommend...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UP4 TH - $165

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
XFX PRO850W XXX Edition - $120


i think a cm hyper 212 plus is good enough to cool your cpu...
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October 5, 2012 8:10:14 PM

phenom90 said:
so if you're only looking for gaming i don't think i7 2600k suits for that.. an i5 2500k would do


So I actually looked into this a little further. I was originally upgrading to the i7 for the livestreaming, not specifically for gaming. I was under the impression that hyperthreading was better for video encoding but apparently it will only give 10% extra performance at best in this area. For $60 less I can swap to i5 3570k.


CPU - Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K - Retail

It runs at the same stock speed but apparently can be overclocked to a higher speed safely. Do you feel this is a good swap? I have looked at the 2500k and I am ok with it if it is the better choice. However for $10 more I'd definitely rather get the 3570k even if it is just a moderate performance boost.

phenom90 said:
if you're looking to sli/crossfire in the future it is better to get 850watts unit to give more headroom


Since I tend to use the same PC for 4-5 years without any upgrades I do like to allow the option to SLI/Crossfire in the future. Its typically when I'm too lazy to buy a new card so I instead buy a duplicate of the same card. I will definitely move up to 850W. (FYI Newegg rated my current build at only needing 625W which is why I chose 750W)

phenom90 said:
maybe you and i also prefer nvidia... but currently nothing beats the hd 7950 which can be picked under $300... which is faster than gtx 660ti at stock speeds


I actually neglected to research the current Nvidia vs ATI market. In the past when I looked it was always a pure matter of preference. If ATI really is ahead right now than I will grab the card you mentioned. I will do some research later.

phenom90 said:
and about the case.. i know it's depend on personal preference.. but i think the case build quality is slightly flimsy... and not to mention its glossy plastic is easily scratched and fingerprint magnet


I hate to hear this actually. I love the design of the NZXT Switch 810 so if it truly is flimsy then I will sadly have to swap. I appreciate the link you supplied for the corsair case but I would definitely prefer a full tower case. I enjoy the extra room, airflow, and overall look of a behemoth case next to 3 24" monitors.



Any reason you chose this over the ASRock mobo I linked? Is it just the price point or will I see some type of performance change? Also keep in mind I will probably be doing the 3570k over the 2500k if that effects your mobo selection.

phenom90 said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB CML8GX3M2A1600C9 - $42


I definitely chose 16GB of RAM on purpose. No matter what I always end up with less RAM then I need a year down the road. I figured I'd pick it up at a cheap price right off the bat. I very well could just buy the RAM you linked twice but do you actually feel there is an advantage over the Crucial sticks I linked?

phenom90 said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 - $20


This is much more aesthetically pleasing than the Zalman I linked. It says it is compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge. Granted it is compatible with Ivy Bridge as well (they are the same socket so I would assume so) I will swap it into my build.

phenom90 said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC256B/WW - $200

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB - $85

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
LG DVD Burner GH24NS90 - $17


Are these all a matter of personal preference or do you feel any of them actually outperform the components I listed?

phenom90 said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UP4 TH - $165


Once again do you rate this higher than the ASRock mobo I linked? Keep in mind again I may end up using the 3570k.


Thank you for your response and I apologize for giving you more questions than I originally started with. I don't build often so I try to make it as perfect as I can before I purchase. You are most helpful.
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October 5, 2012 9:32:04 PM

Might want to get a Hyper 212 Evo instead of plus, a bit better performance for the same price. Spinpoint f3s are known to perform extremely well, better than the WD FAEX you have, and cheaper.
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October 6, 2012 6:58:40 AM

kruptid said:
So I actually looked into this a little further. I was originally upgrading to the i7 for the livestreaming, not specifically for gaming. I was under the impression that hyperthreading was better for video encoding but apparently it will only give 10% extra performance at best in this area. For $60 less I can swap to i5 3570k.


CPU - Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K - Retail

It runs at the same stock speed but apparently can be overclocked to a higher speed safely. Do you feel this is a good swap? I have looked at the 2500k and I am ok with it if it is the better choice. However for $10 more I'd definitely rather get the 3570k even if it is just a moderate performance boost.


Since I tend to use the same PC for 4-5 years without any upgrades I do like to allow the option to SLI/Crossfire in the future. Its typically when I'm too lazy to buy a new card so I instead buy a duplicate of the same card. I will definitely move up to 850W. (FYI Newegg rated my current build at only needing 625W which is why I chose 750W)


I actually neglected to research the current Nvidia vs ATI market. In the past when I looked it was always a pure matter of preference. If ATI really is ahead right now than I will grab the card you mentioned. I will do some research later.


I hate to hear this actually. I love the design of the NZXT Switch 810 so if it truly is flimsy then I will sadly have to swap. I appreciate the link you supplied for the corsair case but I would definitely prefer a full tower case. I enjoy the extra room, airflow, and overall look of a behemoth case next to 3 24" monitors.


Any reason you chose this over the ASRock mobo I linked? Is it just the price point or will I see some type of performance change? Also keep in mind I will probably be doing the 3570k over the 2500k if that effects your mobo selection.


I definitely chose 16GB of RAM on purpose. No matter what I always end up with less RAM then I need a year down the road. I figured I'd pick it up at a cheap price right off the bat. I very well could just buy the RAM you linked twice but do you actually feel there is an advantage over the Crucial sticks I linked?


This is much more aesthetically pleasing than the Zalman I linked. It says it is compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge. Granted it is compatible with Ivy Bridge as well (they are the same socket so I would assume so) I will swap it into my build.


Are these all a matter of personal preference or do you feel any of them actually outperform the components I listed?


Once again do you rate this higher than the ASRock mobo I linked? Keep in mind again I may end up using the 3570k.


Thank you for your response and I apologize for giving you more questions than I originally started with. I don't build often so I try to make it as perfect as I can before I purchase. You are most helpful.



- even i5 3570k is newer and has support for pcie 3.0 and has better built-in gpu but all these irrelevant as it's proved that pcie 3.0 brings no significant improvement over pcie 2.0 .. and i guess you won't be using that built-in graphics for gaming isn't it? not to mention i5 3570k runs hotter when it's overclocked which is why i recommend i5 2500k which is even in terms or performance...

- yes you hit the point... the thing is no1 knows what card you will be using in the future so it is better to buy a larger psu... power consumption varies in different circumstances... maybe less.. maybe more... which is why i recommend 850w psu given the price difference is quite small...

- better do some research... don't make a wrong purchase...

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da9iDrH4mOU

look at the case after it is equipped with sli... if that extra room still not enough for you... i don't know what will...

- not really... simply because this costs less and does not support sli/crossfire...

- no advantage really... only i think you won't need more than 8gb for your usage..

- and cheaper too..

- not really outperform... only it has better reliability...

- yes i do rate this higher than asrock... has better build quality... since you may end up cfx/sli so i recommend this..

- u're welcome.. nv mind.. hope you don't mind i late reply...
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