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October 5, 2012 11:05:13 AM

Hello, I was looking for a new PC because I'm going to get $600 soon and I was wanting to buy a new gaming PC because my current one I bought for $400 sucks (Because it was $400). At the time I didn't know how to build one but as of now I want to build one because I believe it will be cheaper than a pre-build noob one (Edit). I mainly play games like League of Legends, Minecraft, World of Warcraft, SMITE, Diablo 3, AirMech, and Skyrim. These games are okay but I run most of them at pretty low FPS and to be quite honest its pissing me off because it is hindering my game-play. I was just wondering if there was any better computer out there that any of you could find or if this computer is bad and I need to search for a new one or if these games are out of my price range in quality? I mainly play League of Legends (Which I run fine but my loading screen runs slow and some games I don't even load in and I have weird FPS drops, so on and so forth. I recently got a new router so I know it is my computer. I want 60 fps just regular no lag movement in my gaming...nothing out of the ordinary. And I would at least like the computer to run League of Legends at High Quality or Medium if you can. I want the OS to come with the system if at all possible. A monitor is not really needed but if you can somehow magically fit it in there then go ahead.

If you need any specifics I really don't care whether it is an AMD or an Intel build. I really only play League of Legends and I play some Minecraft on the side so it doesn't have to run the others very high. I'd just like LoL at a steady 60 fps at medium to high graphics if you can.

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a b 4 Gaming
October 5, 2012 11:11:10 AM

Link be broken, just paste the whole URL.

EDIT: Cheap pre-builts wont compare to cheap custom builds, especially sub $600 pre-builts.
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October 5, 2012 11:28:41 AM

chalk is right, you will need to go the custom built route to maximize your performance per dollar. The other good news is that the games you like are not that demanding. The future is bright for you yet young padajuan ;] There are infinite resources on this website to guide you with your hardware purchases. You may find some "combo deals" on a piece of hardware that greatly reduces the price of an operating system.
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October 5, 2012 11:44:51 AM

I was just wondering if http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-pc-overclock... would be very good for what I'm doing because it seems to me that its a decent well built computer from the looks of it or is there a better build that I could go with? Keep in mind I still need the os with the system) I'm sorry if I sound a bit noob here but everyone has to start somewhere right? xD
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a b 4 Gaming
October 5, 2012 11:54:10 AM

i would start by posting what your old system spec are. you may be able to save some money by reusing the power supply..hard drive and cd-roms and case. if i was building a gaming system i would use a msi g45 micro atx (80.) mb. a 3570 cpu 199.00. 8g ram kit. then use the rest for 7850/7970. or a nvidia 670. if you can re use some parts from the old build. with a gaming pc it not only the gpu now but you need a good cpu so you dont bottle neck the gpu.
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a b 4 Gaming
October 5, 2012 11:56:16 AM

Thats about as good as you can get. Only things I would change are the processor to an Ivy Bridge i3, double the RAM and get the HD7770.

That would make a decent little gaming rig.
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October 5, 2012 12:07:55 PM

smorizio said:
i would start by posting what your old system spec are. you may be able to save some money by reusing the power supply..hard drive and cd-roms and case. if i was building a gaming system i would use a msi g45 micro atx (80.) mb. a 3570 cpu 199.00. 8g ram kit. then use the rest for 7850/7970. or a nvidia 670. if you can re use some parts from the old build. with a gaming pc it not only the gpu now but you need a good cpu so you dont bottle neck the gpu.


Do you by chance have a program that can record the information you will need so I can give it to you?
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a b 4 Gaming
October 5, 2012 12:40:06 PM

Control Panel > System and Security > System.
Should say what processor you are using and how much memory you have.

Control Panel > Hardware and Sound > Device Manager.
Look under "Display Adapters". That will tell us what GPU you have.

Open up the case and tell us what the PSU is (if you cant tell, just say what Wattage it is and the brand), and look for any brand or product names on the motherboard.

That will get us an idea of what hardware you are running with, so then we can advise whether to just upgrade this machine or get a new one.
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October 5, 2012 12:50:36 PM

manofchalk said:
Thats about as good as you can get. Only things I would change are the processor to an Ivy Bridge i3, double the RAM and get the HD7770.

That would make a decent little gaming rig.


What Ivy Bridge do you suggest?
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a b 4 Gaming
October 5, 2012 12:56:22 PM

If you are truly going low end and will be using integrated graphics, an i3-3225. That has HD4000 graphics, which is the best Intel offer right now.

If you are getting a graphics card, shouldn't really matter which one. So just make sure its an Ivy Bridge i3.
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October 5, 2012 1:06:20 PM

Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.40GHZ 3.39GHZ, 2.99GB of RAM
ATI Radeon HD 4670
HP Compaq (Compaq) is more then likely the motherboard
400 watt power supply

[Edit] Whenever I bought this computer it said it was a dual core and I believe it is but whenever I have ran system spec overviews of my computer before it only shows 3.39 on the scans.

[Edit 2] I bought it over Craigslist lol
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October 5, 2012 1:07:30 PM

I had replaced this computer's Graphics card with one a while back but I don't think it is very good.
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a b 4 Gaming
October 5, 2012 1:10:42 PM

You can drop the CPU cooler, mainstream Intel chips come with their own.

The case comes with its own 450W, but I wouldn't use it.
In fact, swap to this case. Its cheaper and of better quality.
Zalman Z9. $44 ($10 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Slightly faster and cheaper RAM.
G.Skill Ripjaws 8GB (2x4GB) 1600Mhz CL9 1.5v. $38
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

With the saved cash from the cheaper case, RAM and stock cooling, get this PSU.
Corsair Builder 500W, 80+ certified non modular. $60 ($10 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Better efficiency, 80+ Certified and from a better brand.

Should be a good little rig.
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a b 4 Gaming
October 5, 2012 1:11:56 PM

visuore said:
Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.40GHZ 3.39GHZ, 2.99GB of RAM
ATI Radeon HD 4670
HP Compaq (Compaq) is more then likely the motherboard
400 watt power supply


Yep, a new machine is required. To attempt to upgrade that will just result in a new rig anyway.
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a b 4 Gaming
October 5, 2012 6:33:26 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Agility 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($74.48 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 6670 1GB Video Card ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $355.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

the A10-5800K trades blows with an i3-3220, while the HD7660D + HD 6670 crossfire into something much better than your 4650.
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October 5, 2012 9:04:47 PM

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Agility 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($74.48 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 6670 1GB Video Card ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $355.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

the A10-5800K trades blows with an i3-3220, while the HD7660D + HD 6670 crossfire into something much better than your 4650.


Could I change the storage because I usually use about 200GB? Perhaps http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-h... ?
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October 5, 2012 9:51:59 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jrV2
I've kind of combined some things in together in to something that I think would be good by what you guys have said. I think I will need a cooling system but I'm not sure which one. Feel free to make any changes you want and correct me because I want to learn about this stuff.

This error message keeps displaying
"ASRock FM2A75M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard has an onboard USB 3.0 header, but the Apevia X-QBOII Black MicroATX Mini Tower Case w/500W Power Supply does not have front panel USB 3.0 ports."
I would like to know how I could change something to make this system better. I have $600 to spend max.

[Edit] Cooling System: 1x 120mm Blue LED Front Fan; 1x 120mm Rear Fan comes with the case from what I can tell.
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a b 4 Gaming
October 6, 2012 5:40:10 AM


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3V Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($92.11 @ Amazon)
Total: $588.04
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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October 6, 2012 5:50:07 AM

ScrewySqrl said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3V Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($92.11 @ Amazon)
Total: $588.04
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


I also got recommended this http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jtA4 They seem to be basically the same builds yet he gave me a 600w Power Supply and an Optical Drive (I think the bottom shape of the case he gave me was a little weird and a little "much" tbh). And with the parts you gave me this error message comes up on the build "Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3V Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard has an onboard USB 3.0 header, but the Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case does not have front panel USB 3.0 ports."
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October 6, 2012 6:02:08 AM

Crossfire is something I have barely heard of before I would have troubles understanding it. So a brief or tutorial on that would probably help me understand this a lot more. And comparisons would be great with these two builds.
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a b 4 Gaming
October 6, 2012 10:45:16 AM

The B75 chipset natively supports USB3 internal headers, so any case USB3 ports can be plugged in without the need of a PCI card or something similar. That error message is just saying the case doesnt support USB3.

Crossfire (AMD cards) and SLI (Nvidia) are when you take multiple GPU's and run them in tandem for extra performance.
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October 6, 2012 6:51:32 PM

Do I need the 600w power supply?Or can I go with a 430w. And the optical drive is a CD drive or what? Because if it is then I do need that.

Extra Information: I will probably not be upgrading my computer soon and I will have this one for at least 1 year to 2 years before upgrading it again.
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a b 4 Gaming
October 6, 2012 9:30:40 PM

the 430 is fine, and a cd adds about $15
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October 7, 2012 1:02:12 AM

And I don't need a cooler?
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a b 4 Gaming
October 7, 2012 1:51:28 AM

The CPU will come with its own, no need for aftermarket unless your looking for better cooling performance or less noise.
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October 7, 2012 2:53:57 AM

Noise is np my headset is the *** and I don't care what other people think or hear :p  And btw I was just wondering...dont mean to sound like a bling happy retard but I was just wondering do the lights for the case come with the case or is that something that would come separately?
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October 7, 2012 3:09:28 AM

edit: I posted irrelevant info b/c I didnt read the whole thread.
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a b 4 Gaming
October 7, 2012 4:56:28 AM

visuore said:
And btw I was just wondering...dont mean to sound like a bling happy retard but I was just wondering do the lights for the case come with the case or is that something that would come separately?


Preaching to the choir, near very fan in my rig is LED lit and I'v got two Bitfenix Connect LED strips in there. I can understand the stealth rig appeal, but I like my machine to look as awesome as it performs (says me with mid-range hardware :lol: ).

My rig just after I finished installing the water-cooling. Not the best lighting to show off its glowiness, but you get the gist.


If the case says it will come with an LED fan, it will come with one. You can always add more LED fans (which I would advise with that 430 case, only has one intake fan) and LED's later if you are so inclined.
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October 7, 2012 9:44:47 AM

[Edit] I read the reviews. It didn't turn out good but I do like the look of it for sure.
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October 7, 2012 9:45:19 AM

Best answer selected by Visuore.
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a b 4 Gaming
October 7, 2012 9:54:50 AM

Space wise its enough, though I'm concerned by the lack of cable management features.
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October 7, 2012 10:31:31 AM

Im willing to pay the extra money for this one http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-rc912kk... and it sounds pretty good to be honest and it looks like an earlier version of yours? Possibly mine doesn't have any windows for the sides though which I don't really mind all too much about. What do you think?
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October 7, 2012 10:46:19 AM

Okay then thank you very much man you have all helped out a lot im pretty much retarded when it comes to this stuff. I'm hoping to learn more so I can do a bit of helping myself someday. Who knows? I'm going to be going in to Graphic Design seeing as I'm already really good at it. Therefore my computer must be good as well :p 
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a b 4 Gaming
October 7, 2012 10:52:36 AM

Its all good, when I first started I had no clue what I was doing. In my first post here I got slammed for my stupidity.
You just gradually pick it up reading through forums, reviews and other peoples builds. Then it all starts to click why some components are better than others, what will give the most performance in this situation. You get it eventually.
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October 7, 2012 5:06:00 PM

Thanks to everyone again ^^
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a b 4 Gaming
October 8, 2012 5:36:26 PM

good luck
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