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My 1st build at 55.

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February 19, 2013 5:52:03 PM

Components:

1. OS - WIN Home Premium 7 64 bit
2. Case - Nzxt Tech Phantom w/Green Trim (Green LED) Enthusiast Full Tower
3. MOBO - ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AMD 970 & SB950 ATX DDR3 800 AMD - AM3+ Motherboard
4. PSU - OCZ 700W MODXSTREAM-PRO 80PLUS w/Modular Cables
5. CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 965BE
6. CPU Fan - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
7. MEM - Kingston Tech HyperX Blu 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 CL9 (Kit of 2)
8. HD - Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache
9. Drive - Lite-On Super AllWrite 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive
10. GPU - Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 2GB GDDR5 OC 920 - CROSSFIRE

All purchased thru Amazon, here in Hawaii the shipping cost of almost everything adds @10 to 20% or more to the price of
all Items. All the above components shipped at $0 cost, I know how much people rave about Newegg but they charge close
to the highest shipping (OK no more bad mouthing NE).

NOW TO THE POINT - DO THESE PARTS PLAY WELL TOGETHER AND MAKE A GOOD GAMING PC - AND IF NOT PLEASE POINT OUT THE MISTAKES AND SUGGEST REPLACEMENTS PLEASE.

Current PC from AVADIRECT:
Azza Orion 202 EVO steel case - OCZ ModXStream Prow/Modular cables 500W - ASUS M4N68T-M V2 AM3 AMD870 DDR3-2000
- AMD Phenom II X4 955BE - Kingston 4GB (2 X 2GB) HyperX Blu DDR3 1333MHz - Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 900MHz 1GB GDDR5 - WD 500GB Cav Blk - WIN Home Premium 7 32bit - COST $785 SHIPPING $170.

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a c 139 ) Power supply
February 19, 2013 6:08:42 PM

Although everything looks good to me, I'm thinking why not upgrade your current PC? I think you'll get near the performance of that new system with upgrades to the OS (put it on an SSD), CPU cooler (if stock), ram and GPU alone. I'm just not seeing much of a performance change between current and 'new' systems
My take here
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a c 104 ) Power supply
February 19, 2013 6:50:38 PM

+1, theres not much between the 955 and 965, in fact you could overclock the 955 and see improvements for the cost of a cooler, 212 is a good choice btw,
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February 19, 2013 7:22:06 PM

Should be fine, but as others have said, I would also just upgrade your current PC or sell it off and raise your budget a bit. Few things I would do is get a SSD for OS/applications, possibly more memory/RAM (4GB is actual good enough for the regular user, but more never hurt right, this would also require getting a 64bit version of windows to use above 4GB), and finally a single video card as opposed to crossfire. Some games don't take advantage or support SLI/CF, and unless you *really want that performance, I would just go for a single card with more power (like a 7950, or something like a GTX 660 Ti/670.)
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a c 129 ) Power supply
February 19, 2013 7:35:24 PM

I run an AMD and an Intel rig (in my .sig). Although both play well, the Intel rig is notably stronger. If you're planning a complete rebuild, I'd look into an Intel system. If you have no interest in overclocking, get an i5-3470.
I'm inclined to agree with the others that there is still some life left in your current system, if you're interested in overclocking your CPU. Get the graphics card you're considering, or perhaps a HD7870. If it does well enough, great; you're done. If not, you haven't wasted any money, because you'll move that new graphics card into a new build.
One thing I will point out is that your older motherboard only operates at 2000MT/s (compared to 5200MT/s for a modern board), and does not support SATA 6Gb/s which will limit SSD performance. Still, if just upgrading the graphics card gives you the performance you want, you've saved a nice chunk of change compared to a complete rebuild.
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February 19, 2013 7:45:30 PM

955BE to 965BE is not an 'upgrade' in all honesty

if you had say an Athlon II then yeah go for it its a huge upgrade i found. going from athlon II x4 640 to 965BE @ 3.8ghz

If anything You would be better of just upgrading your GPU & RAm for now

Your Ocz 500w will handle a 7850 just fine.
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February 21, 2013 4:24:40 AM

Thanks to all who responded but the point in all this was to learn and experience picking the right components and doing it right so I could get an idea what all you enthusiasts feel when it all comes together into a stable GAMING PC. I purchased my 1st pc in 1999 and I've bought 5 more since then, with each pc getting a little closer to a gaming platform. But I'm still not where I want to be - AVADIRECT labels my current build a "Workstation". I'm 55 yrs old and it's high time I build my own. I've been taking those Testosterone supplements and I think those pills might be working, at least my confidence feels up to the task. Would a FX-4300BE be a better choice for gaming? Also I have the 32bit Win 7 so 3.25 RAM is all that's recognized thus the 64bit upgrade. Aloha for the suggestions but think it's high time I make a pc that's truly my baby. At the very least I might learn from my mistakes.
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a c 139 ) Power supply
February 21, 2013 4:36:42 AM

Any way you might consider upping your budget some?
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a c 129 ) Power supply
February 21, 2013 9:38:11 AM

What exactly is your budget? $1000 total?
For single monitor gaming, I'd probably aim for an i5 + HD7870/GTX660.
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February 21, 2013 1:50:14 PM

my budget is $200 to $300 a month so I guess my budget depends on how long it takes. Sorry if I wasn't clear on this but I have already purchased the motherboard. The only items I have to buy are the CPU and the 64bit OS. I'm on SSI disability and due to the nature of my disability I have this one and only interest - sitting down to a good game of running about and shooting freakish bandits or home-world invaders, since I can't run around shooting paint ball warriors FPShooters are my only outlet. In the game I'm like a normal gun wielding American, but no one gets hurt.

SO - WHAT'S THE BEST 4 CORE AMD CPU FOR GAMING - now I'm looking at the FX-4300BE with the larger L3 cache and higher clock speed plus being unlocked, is the 4300 my final jeopardy answer? Also, I will be increasing the RAM to 16GB if it will help with image quality.
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February 21, 2013 3:10:20 PM

punabutta8251 said:
Also, I will be increasing the RAM to 16GB if it will help with image quality.


You don't need 16GB of memory for a gaming configuration that's for sure. Only if you plan to use ram-intensive programs or video editing a lot. You're better off investing a little more into a better GPU or CPU. I'm only running 6GB and I never use all 6 that's for sure. My spare system has 4GB and runs perfectly fine as well.

I saw on a previous thread that the 965 BE and FX-4300BE are close in terms of performance, just the FX is newer tech. It's up to you, if you already have the 965BE i'd just keep it and once again use the extra money to invest in the GPU.

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a c 139 ) Power supply
February 21, 2013 4:01:05 PM

punabutta8251 said:
SO - WHAT'S THE BEST 4 CORE AMD CPU FOR GAMING - now I'm looking at the FX-4300BE with the larger L3 cache and higher clock speed plus being unlocked, is the 4300 my final jeopardy answer? Also, I will be increasing the RAM to 16GB if it will help with image quality.

Here's Tom's current CPU hierarchy list http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o... the FX-4300 and Phenom II X4 980 BE are considered the same class for gaming - top of the AMD heap
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February 24, 2013 4:37:24 PM

OK the 4300 is out, how about the 4170 at 4.2 turbo. Doesn't the CPU help the GPU at all? What I see when playing Borderlands 2 as I open boxes looking for Eridium what's in the box is very blurry but within @a split second the item cleans up and is nice and well defined. The pc I'm plying the game on has the 955BE/6870 1GB combo. If my new build has a 4170/7850 2GB crossfire will the detail and speed be closer to instant clarity. I find it hard to believe that a CPU 1.0 faster and a Crossfire GPU setup with 2GB (3GB cross) more mem. will not show a good jump in quality and speed. If it does not improve what's the purpose of SLI and Crossfire? Is it a matter of game designers not keeping up with the hardware? I looked at the 4170 after seeing it on Tom's CPU list (thank you C12). March 1st is coming on fast and unless I read something bad about the FX-4170 I'm grabbing it.
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a c 129 ) Power supply
February 24, 2013 5:09:00 PM

I still think the i5 is the better CPU choice. It is usually fairly easy to turn down graphics settings to make a weaker card playable, but it isn't so easy to overcome a weak CPU. That said, if I were limited to my Omega build for playing games, I would not be "suffering" for it, although I don't play the latest FPS titles.
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February 25, 2013 2:44:14 AM

A good website to check if everything is compatable is pcpartpicker.com
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