FX 8350 or An Intel 3570K?

I just cannot decide btween the FX 8350 with ASROCK extreme9 and the Intel 3570K with ASROCK z77 extreme4.Gaming only purpose.
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  1. For gaming the i5 is better but if you want rendering and gaming then the FX sacrifices some gaming performance for enhanced rendering performance.
  2. Which is better for gaming
  3. Straight up gaming is in favor of the I5
  4. Hmm As I won't be changing the PC for next 3 years, I feel getting the 8350 with the 990FX is better as Steamroller will support the 990FX chipset. Though even I feel the 3570K is better.
  5. An overclocked i5 will not be stressed in any game. It's not even stressed at stock in skyrim whereas the FX is.

    You shouldn't rely on what steamroller might or might not be.
  6. my old answer again
    if u really want to change into steam roller chip get a fx 8320 or fx6300 to save some money.
    both cpu can perform in game and intel is a bit batter
    but at your country z77 mobo is expansive rite?
    so get a amd since it is cheaper
  7. ^
    Wut's this guy on about?

    In terms of pure gaming, the I5 is way better.

    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=701
  8. Yeah Yeah Mate seen those. Firstly, I was about to buy the 3570K till I saw the Vid From Tek Syndicate http://teksyndicate.com/videos/amd-fx-8350-oc-vs-i5-3570k-oc-battle-continues
  9. Or do you think I should get a 3470 with a b75 and upgrade the Graphic Card to 7970?
  10. Why even make this thread? Reading your replies it seems obvious to me that you've already made up your mind. You want to ignore the ignore the 6 games in the anand link because of one game video? Again, seems to me you already made up your mind so what's the real point of this thread?
  11. ^^^ LOOK ABOVE!
  12. If you want the 8350 just get it it's not a bad choice in any way. But the 3570K is at least a bit better.
  13. FinneousPJ said:
    If you want the 8350 just get it it's not a bad choice in any way. But the 3570K is at least a bit better.


    Please tell me, do you think I should get a 3470 with a b75 and upgrade the Graphic Card to 7970?
  14. If you aren't going to upgrade for ages then why cut off overclocking.
  15. OK i have both, i managed a reliable 5ghz OC on the AMD FX8350and a 4.8ghz on the 3570k, i run both like this 24/7 using custom WC, i can honestly say that in the real world every day use the AMD feels crisper, snappier the all round better CPU and i totaly support the teksyndicate video for its honesty, sorry Intel fan boys but its true the AMD is the all round better CPU so bring on the hate......
  16. darth pravus said:
    If you aren't going to upgrade for ages then why cut off overclocking.

    As My ONLY PURPOSE is gaming, I feel the GPU is much more IMP.
  17. Uther39 said:
    OK i have both, i managed a reliable 5ghz OC on the AMD FX8350and a 4.8ghz on the 3570k, i run both like this 24/7 using custom WC, i can honestly say that in the real world every day use the AMD feels crisper, snappier the all round better CPU and i totaly support the teksyndicate video for its honesty, sorry Intel fan boys but its true the AMD is the all round better CPU so bring on the hate......


    And for gaming? :D
  18. u already asked this question. 3570k wins for gaming.
  19. hotshot2797 said:
    Please tell me, do you think I should get a 3470 with a b75 and upgrade the Graphic Card to 7970?

    If you're not interested in CPU overclocking as a hobby then that's a great choice.
  20. The GPU is important now but you don;t know about 3 years time. Grab the most power you can.
  21. hotshot2797 said:
    And for gaming? :D



    You saw the video theres no real world difference, but if you want to play modern games like Crysis 3 then look here



    With the games release in America, the reports are coming out that this game uses all 8 cores, meaning its taking a clear advantage over the i5 CPUs and i7s, heres a good thread on the 8 core AMD CPU by the way

    http://www.overclock.net/t/1318995/official-fx-8320-fx-8350-vishera-owners-club/8770
  22. 3570k and the fastest videocard u can afford.
  23. iceclock said:
    3570k and the fastest videocard u can afford.


    Serisouly I cannot understand what to get. Uther or iceclock?
  24. Get the 8350 AMD and invest the extra $30 in a better GPU or memory or SSD etc etc.
  25. Uther39 said:
    Get the 8350 AMD and invest the extra $30 in a better GPU or memory or SSD etc etc.


    Should I buy an SSD or get the 7970? P.S. I'll upgrade to a better GPU later on in about one and a half yrs
  26. Crysis 3 is not really a CPU intensive game.

    An i5 and an SSd and the best GPU you can afford.

    Upgrade this GPU when you can and you won't be held back by the AMD proc.
  27. 7970 will net u better gaming performance ssd will only access information faster wont actually give u any fps boost.

    also if your just gaming the 3570k is beast.

    if u want to do photoshop. 3d rendering and video encoding 8350 wins.

    considering 8350 is decent but still lags behind a stock intel 3570k. and when the 3570k at 4.5+ gigahertz its a no brainer.

    u need to overclock ur amd 8350 a good bit to equalize a stock 3570k.

    so if gaming again. 3570k
  28. FINAL BUILD:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($194.15 @ Amazon)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.98 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.48 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Hitachi 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: OCZ Agility 3 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($64.99 @ Newegg)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($344.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($56.21 @ TigerDirect)
    Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: LG GH24NS72 DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Total: $1021.74
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-20 11:01 EST-0500)


    What do you guys say? I went with the 8350 as many said it was as good as the 3570K but the FX are much better at rendering so win-win for me as I am thinking of some video rendering too later on.
  29. Overall, the i5-3570k is better for games than the FX-8350 because in nearly all games the i5-3570k beats the FX-8350 from all the various gaming benchmark views on the web. However, actual performance that you will see will be limited by your overall hardware; mainly the graphics card and monitor.

    Assuming you buy a powerful graphics card like the nVidia GTX 680 there are many games where you can get above 60 FPS, but the actual FPS that is displayed on the monitor will be limited by its refresh rate. A 60Hz monitor can only display at most 60 FPS and a 120Hz monitor can only display at most 120 FPS. All 3D monitors are 120Hz, but using it in 3D mode will limit you to 60 FPS.

    The link below benchmarks several CPU with a nVidia GT 680; all of which are running at stock speed:

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/fx-8350-8320-6300-4300_6.html

    In Batman, both the i5-3570k and FX-8350 basically perform the same at 1920x1080. The i5 is 3 FPS faster; 73 vs 70. However, if you are only using a 60Hz monitor, then you are going to get the same performance because the monitor can only display 60 FPS.

    Far Cry 2 is a game where both CPUs can get above 100 FPS at 1920x1080 resolution. Both CPUs will perform exactly the same on a 60Hz monitor. On a 120Hz monitors both are pretty close in performance. Even though the i5 + GTX 680 combo can provide up to 131 FPS, the monitor limits it to only 120 FPS. The FX + GTX 680 combo gives you 114 FPS. Unless you can visually tell the difference between 120 FPS and 114 FPS, both CPUs will seem to perform exactly the same.

    The FX is slightly cheaper and socket AM3+ is expected to last until at least Steamroller. But it does consume a lot of power more than an i5 at full load as seen in the link below (note that is 100% load on the CPU, when not playing games). Depending on how much you pay for electricity the difference of 92w may or may not make much of a difference.

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/fx-8350-8320-6300-4300_8.html#sect0

    I generally pay double the national average rate for electricity in the US so I basically avoid AMD CPUs. Even though Intel CPU sockets do not last for more than 2 generations, I generally do not upgrade very often so I do not mind switching sockets when I upgrade.
  30. theres nothing to do with u. amd consummes more power and performs less.

    im done here.
  31. iceclock said:
    theres nothing to do with u. amd consummes more power and performs less.

    im done here.


    Consumes more power is true, for less performance is not strictly true, as its application dependant, as it performs better in some and less in others, as far as gaming is concerned it also is game dependant, and even where it performs less in certain games its not going to be at all noticeable in the real world.
  32. yes its less power gaming wise.

    intel has the uper hand since a while in gaming.

    for other apps different story.
  33. Just tell me, by how much percent is the 3570K better than 8350 at gaming(REAL WORLD BASIS). Also I Feel the 990FX is very loaded compared to the Z77 chipset
  34. Depends on the game. I'd say up to 50%. But the FX can still run any game.
  35. FinneousPJ said:
    Depends on the game. I'd say up to 50%. But the FX can still run any game.


    50% !!?

    That is a damn right outrageous claim to make and truly unfounded, your actualy in certain games only looking at 5 to 15 % at the very most, and dont forget, more and more new games are coming out with multi threaded ability like Crisis 3 so will actually favor the FX8350.

    Again i have both, but either one will make you very happy.
  36. Not outrageous. Circumstantial and non-relevant yes. Here's a 44% advantage to the 3570K



    Not that it matters at 70+ FPS but the OP did ask.

    source http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/FX-8350_Piledriver_Review/6.html
  37. FinneousPJ said:
    Not outrageous. Circumstantial and non-relevant yes. Here's a 44% advantage to the 3570K

    http://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/FX-8350_Piledriver_Review/images/f1_2010.gif

    Not that it matters at 70+ FPS but the OP did ask.

    source http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/FX-8350_Piledriver_Review/6.html


    So you managed to find one 3 year old game, thats is badly coded so takes advantage of the i5 better single threaded performance !
  38. I guess you don't understand what "up to" means.
  39. Basically uther is arguing that the difference is small but as soon you put it into a situation where you are CPU limited the i5 shows that it is much more powerful.

    The benches that show them close generally are GPU bound and very light on the CPU.
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