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New build, memory advice, etc for x79 m-atx.

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October 7, 2012 9:40:56 AM

oh HI thar!

I've been buying some parts for my new computer, (graphic art, video editing & gaming with the gf) and I've bit a hit of a headwall. [:pdxalex]

my girlfreind, who lives with me, got hit with a huge phone bill and car repair bill, and I've had to pay both parts of the rent, electricity bill, cable & internet, (food, cat food, etc etc etc) and it's eaten into my build budget pretty hard. :pfff: 

I'm not short a few parts, a HDD, 2nd SSD, memory, processor, and optical.

here is what i have so far:

$114.99 COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RS850-AMBAJ3-US 850W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
$89.99 OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-128G 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
$34.99 COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+
$209.99 ASRock X79 EXTREME4-M LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
$169.99 SilverStone Fortress Series FT03S Silver Aluminum / Steel MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case
$289.99 MSI N670GTX-PM2D2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 670 2 GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (N670GTX-PM2D2GD5/OC) (amazon fulfilled msi certified refurb)

I'll have to drop the 2nd ssd and HDD for now (I still have an external 1T)

will be grabbing a 3820 from microcenter (229.99 seems cheap compared to newegg, no?)

but here is where I run into problems, MEMORY!
I've been researching the heck out of this, and I'm coming into a bunch of conflicting information.

I'm compromising of getting a quad channel kit for now, (unless someone convinces me otherwise) with the aim to upgrade later down the line.
I like the look, price and specs of the

Patriot Viper Xtreme Series, Division 2 Edition 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model PXD38G1600LLK

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-161-...

or
Patriot Memory Viper Xtreme Performance 8 DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Computer Memory PXD38G2133C11K

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005WG26XG/ref=ox_sc_a...

or

Patriot Memory Viper Xtreme Series, Division 4 Edition DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) 8GB (4x2GB) 1600MHz Low Latency Quad Kit PXQ38G1600LLQK
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006E2P2XI/ref=ox_sc_a...

but I'm worried that
A. I'd regret getting 4x2gb if I'm looking to expand for vid editing reasons)
B. that it'd be impossible/a real pain to get the xmp to run 2133 on the locked 3820
C. that my COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO will c*ck block the heatsinks (of these or other kits)
D. That neither patriot, nor asrock say that the mobo supports ANY of this memory. (and yes i know that the mobo SHOULD support any DDR3)

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/X79%20Extreme4-M/?cat=Me...

http://www.patriotmemory.com/support/memory_selector.js...


I'm not 100% sold on specifically patriot, but I'm looking to significant modding of the computer down the road, including case windows, gold/silver/copper leaf, laqour painting, anodizing, and plating - and the black and copper look great already with this mobo~
(vain, I know, but I'm an art person)

does anyone have any thoughts and advice before I pick something up indiscriminately?
also, has anyone seen a good place to pick up a slot loading optical for the recently impoverished?

TL;DR
sooth my fears/ suggest a ddr kit for cheap on my asrock extreme-4m +3820.
also, seen any slot opticals for cheap anywhere?

*edit*
I've recently moved from Australia to Kansas city, Missouri to be with mi-lady, in case location is important
and this is my 1st build
October 7, 2012 10:49:53 AM

should this be in memory?
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October 7, 2012 12:32:40 PM

Okay.

Why do you even like 4 modules of RAM anyway? I would really prefer just 2. The chances of the sticks failing is high with 4, it takes up alot of space, it doesn't leave room for future upgrades.

Correct me if I'm wrong but, only the CPU's multiplier is locked on the 3820 right? I've never really bothered to OC RAM frequency before, so idk.

The sure way so RAM won't conflict with the CPU cooler is to get the low profile versions.
That would be either the G.Skill Ares/Sniper or the Corsair Vengeance Low Profile. Not sure if Patriot has their own.

Don't mind the compatibility list. They're just the tested ones and are usually outdated, if they were truly incompatible, then Patriot would be out of business.

Lastly, if you're on a budget, why go LGA2011? The 3570K and 3770K are faster in benchmarks than the 3820.
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October 7, 2012 12:44:58 PM

The i7 3820 is multiplier locked but it's still easily overclockable.And yes it is a bit slower than the i7 3770K but it's a much better buy because it uses a superior platform and has a upgrade path.
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October 7, 2012 3:01:48 PM

True, but the only upgrade path to this are SB-E and IB-E which are hella expensive. :|
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October 8, 2012 3:43:54 AM

excella1221 said:
Okay.

Why do you even like 4 modules of RAM anyway? I would really prefer just 2. The chances of the sticks failing is high with 4, it takes up alot of space, it doesn't leave room for future upgrades.


agreed,
excella1221 said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but, only the CPU's multiplier is locked on the 3820 right? I've never really bothered to OC RAM frequency before, so idk.


1333 is the highest native speed for DDR3, all the rest is 'overclocked' (from what i understand), hence XMP. speeds like 1600 shouldn't be too hard at all to set up, but once you start getting up to those 2000s, i think you have to play with the blc (carefullly) half the time.

excella1221 said:

The sure way so RAM won't conflict with the CPU cooler is to get the low profile versions.
That would be either the G.Skill Ares/Sniper or the Corsair Vengeance Low Profile. Not sure if Patriot has their own.

Don't mind the compatibility list. They're just the tested ones and are usually outdated, if they were truly incompatible, then Patriot would be out of business.


ahh okay, well that's good, i didn't think it would be an issue, but wondered why niether of the companies seem to think it was compatible.

excella1221 said:

Lastly, if you're on a budget, why go LGA2011? The 3570K and 3770K are faster in benchmarks than the 3820.


well, I once had more of a budget, but the budget has shrunk part way through the acquisition of parts.
I haven't gone with the 3820.
I've gone with an x79extreme4m.

if i was to go with a 3570k, or 3770k, i'd be adding the price of an x79exteme4m to a LGA1155 platform.
also i'v been thinking about what kamen_bg is thinking
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October 8, 2012 4:19:40 AM

1333 and 1600MHz are native these days.

If you already have an x79 motherboard, there's no turning back. :p 
As kamen_bg said anyway, it's a great platform. Just be ready to shell out hundreds of dollars on your next upgrade.
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