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October 7, 2012 6:22:39 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Varies by price. By the end of the year however. (I know its soon, but I'm getting an idea and monitoring prices)

Budget Range: I'd like to keep it under 900$ anymore than that and it'll be very unlikely I can afford it.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming will be the main priority followed by coding/modeling then misc general computing.

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg or Tigerdirect are preffered, but not needed.

Location: Central Kentucky

Parts Preferences: Whatever performs well and is cheap. (Always been an Intel CPU fan, with nothing against AMD and always been an ATI/AMD fan for GPUs)

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I want a PC capable of gaming modern games at atleast high settings preferred. If price allows I may even add a small SSD for boot. With the coolers I have picked out, I've heard so much good stuff about the 212, but I know a guy who has an X4 with the V8 and it stays ultra cool. I am worried about them fitting in those cases though. I also thoughtt about a cheap i3 so I can upgrade to a i5 one day but I need it cheap as possible with good performance for the time being.

Here's what I have kind of looked at so far (Comments and recommendations needed):

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965
MOBO: Gigabyte AMD 970
GPU: Sapphire 6950 2GB
RAM: G SKill Ripjaw X 1600MHz (8GB)
HDD: WD Black 1TB
PSU: Cooler Master GX 650W
CASE: Azza Solano 1000
OR
Azza Hurricane 2000
COOLER: CM Hyper 212
OR
CM V8
DISC DRIVE: Asus BD(R)/CD(RW)

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a b 4 Gaming
October 7, 2012 6:46:45 PM

For $900, this is pretty awesome. Ask any questions and myself or someone else would be happy to answer them!.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jCfY
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jCfY/by_merchant/


CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)

Storage: Crucial V4 32GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($45.87 @ Amazon)

Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($267.86 @ Newegg)

Case: Rosewill Challenger-U3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($51.98 @ Newegg)

Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $840.64

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
a b 4 Gaming
October 7, 2012 6:48:02 PM

You could do MUCH better for the money.

Check out my $850 build here:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore#module14708687...
You'll get a WAY better CPU, a WAY better GPU, and a better PSU as well. Since you want to OC:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You'll be more than solid.

i5 2500K vs 980 (Would be an OC'd 965):
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=362
7870 vs 6950:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/548?vs=510

The 7870 can be pushed even further with slight OCing. After pushing it to about 1GHZ you'll get a 7950 in performance numbers. A great well rounded card overall especially for the price. Lower TDP, lower temps, quieter than the 6950.
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October 7, 2012 7:16:01 PM

How much performance/features would I be losing going from a 3570k to say like a 3450? And I would prefer a modular PSU the more I think about it for neatness. As well I have always kind of preferred a full tower because of the natural air flow. I really like those two Azza cases I mentioned above, but I've heard that any cooler bigger than 110mm won't fit and that cooler is a 120mm. I also switched the ram over to G Skill because I have the exact same model in another desktop and it preforms absolutely phenomenal.

EDIT: I've never had any experience with MSI. I've heard good and bad, but thats the same with any company. Are they a good and quality brand?
a b 4 Gaming
October 7, 2012 7:24:30 PM

MSI is one of the premier technology companies, and they make some of the best aftermarket coolers for GPU's.
Performance wise, you won't see any difference between the 3450 and the 3570k. However, you won't be able to overclock the 3450.

As far as the case goes, you picked really nice cases, but that would put you over budget. I wouldn't sacrifice the performance of the system by downgrading components to make up for the case. If you can stretch a little more to put in a full tower, by all means do so. If not, I would stick with the challenger. It has 3 fans that will be more than sufficient for cooling.

As far as cooler clearance, I don't have the AZZA case, so I am unsure if that is true.
a b 4 Gaming
October 7, 2012 7:56:43 PM

You won't be losing a lot, the i5 3450 is basically the underclocked i5 3570K. You'll really only lose the ability to overclock.

As for it all:
Check out my $850 build here:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore#module14669582...
Switch the 7870 for the 7950 (+70)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Swap the i5 3570K for the i5 3450 (-30)
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-3450-Quad-Core-Processor...
Total: $885

Save some money especially before rebates and get a much better GPU. Plus you'll still get the ability to CF/SLI in the future. If you don't think you'll SLI/CF in the future switch to my $650 build and swap the 7850 for the 7950 and you'll be solid.
October 7, 2012 8:19:16 PM

So between the 3570K and the 3450 there will be no noticeable performance differences? If I drop to the 3450, I won't be able to OC, so would you still recommend the aftermarket cooler? As for the case you make a valid argument. It is always something I can upgrade in the future. As for a CF setup, with either the 7870 or 7950 I do not for see myself doing it with those (Why would I need to with only one monitor?).
a b 4 Gaming
October 7, 2012 9:09:51 PM

No there would be no need for a aftermarket cooler if you got the i5 3450. And yes, there will be no notable performance difference.

Well, games getting more demanding so there is a reason to have the option. But if you're not bothered that you can't run 16x AA/AF with ULTRA settings at 1080P. Then there is no reason.
October 7, 2012 9:21:03 PM

aznshinobi said:
No there would be no need for a aftermarket cooler if you got the i5 3450. And yes, there will be no notable performance difference.

Well, games getting more demanding so there is a reason to have the option. But if you're not bothered that you can't run 16x AA/AF with ULTRA settings at 1080P. Then there is no reason.


This is good a thing, because I found some cheap mid towers with a large 200mm fan on the side that would prevent a aftermarket cooler. I plan on hopefully within a year of purchasing the i5 I wil be able to upgrade to an i7 which would obviously mean a different case and cooler but that'll be a while from now. And even with the i5 at stock 3.1 not in turbo mode it will handle 16x AA with the 3GB 7950 without any issues shouldn't it?
a b 4 Gaming
October 7, 2012 9:29:56 PM

16x AA is pretty taxing. It's a pretty hefty request from a single card to run BF3 at those settings. Just because you have a high clock speed of 3.1ghz and a great card like the 7950 it's not all that you have to account for. Resolution, the games engine, DX11 vs DX10/9 are factors....
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970_GHz_Edit...
At 4X AA it's already pretty hard to run.


The i7 will bring you almost 0 performance gain in FPS. It'd be a waste of money to do so. The i5 3450 will last you awhile. i5's are equivalent to i7's in almost everyway EXCEPT multi-threading. I don't know that your coding and modeling would require so much as an i7. I think the i5 3450 could handle the load fine.
October 7, 2012 10:05:44 PM

Alright. If anything then I could upgrade to the 3570k in the future if I feel the need to OC. Or just wait for the 7950s to dorp more in price and CF. I'll post the parts list that I've come up with after comparing everyones and see what you all think.
a b 4 Gaming
October 7, 2012 10:08:37 PM

Yep sounds good!
October 8, 2012 12:28:00 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jEkT

I went with that case because it has 5 fans in a mid tower already.

Also NCIX is a great company I am assuming since you guys are suggesting me buy the parts from those places, am I correct?
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