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October 8, 2012 4:12:39 AM

3930k
Big Bang Xpower ii
EVGA GTX 670 4gb
WD caviar black 1tb hdd
Samsung 830 128gb ssd
ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-R
X2 CORSAIR DOMINATOR 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1600mhz
Either NZXT Switch 810 or Caselabs Magnum M10 depending on discounts of these parts

This is a gaming and video editing build. I went with that psu because thats the only decent one this store has and the ram because i plan to watercool, and watercooling the ram is only for looks. i have a reference gtx 670 because of watercool, in case you were wondering.

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October 8, 2012 4:50:10 AM

radmanhs said:
3930k
Big Bang Xpower ii
EVGA GTX 670 4gb
WD caviar black 1tb hdd
Samsung 830 128gb ssd
ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-R
X2 CORSAIR DOMINATOR 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1600mhz
Either NZXT Switch 810 or Caselabs Magnum M10 depending on discounts of these parts

This is a gaming and video editing build. I went with that psu because thats the only decent one this store has and the ram because i plan to watercool, and watercooling the ram is only for looks. i have a reference gtx 670 because of watercool, in case you were wondering.


I'm confused. You've got a fancy air cooler, but you plan to watercool?

I don't see a PSU in that listing at all.

8GB of memory is not nearly enough for a X79 motherboard. The X79 platform is a quad channel architecture, so you have to buy DIMMs in sets of 4. Even 32GB is readily affordable.

Most X79 motherboards are EATX formfactor, not ATX. The Caselabs Magnum M10 can't handle that form factor, so it's out. For that price you might as well get a very nice Corsair Obsidian case instead.
October 8, 2012 4:52:02 AM

srry forgot psu, it was a ax1200, nnote the ram is 2 kits of it, so 16gb. the mobo is xl-atx and that case can support it, may not even use that case though
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October 8, 2012 5:02:21 AM

radmanhs said:
srry forgot psu, it was a ax1200, nnote the ram is 2 kits of it, so 16gb. the mobo is xl-atx and that case can support it, may not even use that case though


AX1200 is a good choice. I'd get the new AX1200i if I were you, I've been itching to see what that thing can do with the new programmable DSPs.

I would advise against getting two dual channel kits, as those are not hand picked and tested to run in 4 parallel channels and you could run into timing and firmware support issues. Get one or two quad channel kits instead. They are more expensive but are far less likely to cause problems.

If it's XL-ATX then it 'should' fit. Empasis on 'should' because the X79 motherboards require additional power leads which may be difficult to route in smaller cases. My RIVE has a total of 5 different power leads for the mainboard.
October 8, 2012 5:12:18 AM

ok, i changed the psu to 1200i, the ram to 16gb of vengeance 1600, and changed the gpu to msi 680 lightning. is there any good case that you would recommend thats under $300? not the switch 810, and the corsair cases dont "do" it for me. like mountian mods or something? that can fit that motherboard
October 8, 2012 6:13:13 AM

radmanhs said:
ok, i changed the psu to 1200i, the ram to 16gb of vengeance 1600, and changed the gpu to msi 680 lightning. is there any good case that you would recommend thats under $300? not the switch 810, and the corsair cases dont "do" it for me. like mountian mods or something? that can fit that motherboard


There's nothing wrong with the Switch 810. If that's your style then I recommend the Corsair Obsidian 800D. Corsair has a lot of cases of different designs, some don't do it for me but others do so I'm going to include them for reference anyway.

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=41960&vpn=CC800DW&man...

or the 650D

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=58078&vpn=CC650DW&man...

They're both very similar in style which is why I recommended them in the first place.

Other options are:

Antec 1200*

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59514&vpn=TWELVE%20HU...

Antec P193**

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=60513&vpn=P193%20V3&m...

CoolerMaster Haf X

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=53776&vpn=RC-942-KKN1...

CoolerMaster Storm Trooper

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=65340&vpn=SGC-5000-KK...

Zalman GS1200

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=58703&vpn=GS1200&manu...

* The Antec 1200 doesn't include E-ATX mounts, but should fit an XL-ATX motherboard without much issue. If you're considering it, I can take a look at my brother's computer which has it

** I have several workstations in Antec P183 mid-towers, the P193 is the full-tower version. The construction is great but it may be a tight fit

October 8, 2012 1:23:54 PM

ok, i was looking at the tj07, 800d, and still the switch 810, i like the switch 810, so i think ill go wit what if i cant get case labs, because that seems to be one of the only cases that supports xl-atx mobos
October 8, 2012 5:42:52 PM

radmanhs said:
ok, i was looking at the tj07, 800d, and still the switch 810, i like the switch 810, so i think ill go wit what if i cant get case labs, because that seems to be one of the only cases that supports xl-atx mobos


XL-ATX is just a slightly larger version of ATX. It's in between ATX and EATX and uses the ATX mounting holes. If a case supports ATX and EATX then it also supports XL-ATX. If it supports only ATX but not EATX then you can mount an XL-ATX motherboard but it might be a tight fight for cabling
October 8, 2012 10:21:36 PM

now in thinking of going with the rampage 4 extreme. i see you have that board. how amazing is it?
October 8, 2012 10:28:07 PM

radmanhs said:
now in thinking of going with the rampage 4 extreme. i see you have that board. how amazing is it?


The RIVE is still the benchmark as far as X79 board quality goes but it still has two deficiencies.

1. it uses an ASMedia 1061 SATA-III controller to provide additional SATA-III ports and eSATA support. The ASMedia 1061 is not EFI compatible (which means that the legacy BIOS ROM is used instead) and does not properly support ATAPI which makes it useless for optical disks. The 1061 can only be used for additional hard disks. Boot SSDs and Optical drives cannot be used. Non-boot SSDs may not have any issues, but I haven't tried this. Other vendors have taken to using more mature offerings from Marvell or LSI. This is rarely an issue though, just use the 6 Intel ports first.

2. Since the RIVE is an early release as far as X79 boards go the board layout could be better. There are some auxiliary power plugs which could be in a better location or use a better form factor

The RIVE is amazing for overclocking and stability as the Asus DIGI+ DSPs take power control to the next level. Component quality is top of the line as usual.
October 8, 2012 10:59:38 PM

im wondering, is it possible to fit the xl-atx big bang xpower ii in the temjim tj07? it says its not suppported on the list but im just wondering
October 8, 2012 11:21:26 PM

if i can fit it within my budget, illl get the tj11 XD
October 8, 2012 11:25:12 PM

radmanhs said:
if i can fit it within my budget, illl get the tj11 XD


The TJ07 supports XL-ATX, and the TJ11 supports E-ATX which implies XL-ATX. Either one will work
October 8, 2012 11:30:19 PM

hmmm... it doesnt say it supports it, and im not sure how much room there is for the mobo in the 07. you know? the xpower ii is 13.6" long 11" wide
October 9, 2012 12:34:16 AM

ok... on the tj07 it doesnt say xl-atx... and depending on my discount, if my budget can fit it in im going to get the tj11
October 9, 2012 1:18:57 AM

radmanhs said:
ok... on the tj07 it doesnt say xl-atx... and depending on my discount, if my budget can fit it in im going to get the tj11


XL-ATX is a slightly larger form of ATX, but is usually smaller than EATX (Extended ATX). It's not a standard form factor so it's rare for a manufacturer to market it as a compatibility option as there's no set dimension. If a case is large enough to support EATX and has ATX mounting holes then it should support any XL-ATX motherboard by design. Most X79 motherboards are somewhere between ATX and EATX and are marketed as EATX for compatibility purposes.
October 9, 2012 1:55:50 AM

so next to all xl atx motherboards use atx holes?
October 9, 2012 2:03:37 AM

radmanhs said:
so next to all xl atx motherboards use atx holes?


Since XL-ATX is not a standard you should check with the motherboard manufacturer to make sure but yes I believe they only use ATX holes. My Rampage IV Extreme uses only ATX holes despite being marketed as an EATX board.
October 9, 2012 2:17:46 AM

ya i emailed them, now time to wait
October 9, 2012 4:19:45 AM

this is my updated build

3930k
big bang xpower ii
ax1200i
samsung 830 128gb(waiting for 840) who knows when it will be on sale?
wd caviar black 1tb
silverstone temjin tj11
hyper 212 evo
either evga gtx 670 ftw, evga gtx 680 w/ back plate 4gb or msi gtx 680 lightning
16gb (4x4gb) vengance 1600
cheapest dvd writer/player

original price between $2,682 and $2,872 depending on gpu
sale price: to be determined
October 9, 2012 5:55:15 AM

radmanhs said:
this is my updated build

3930k
big bang xpower ii
ax1200i
samsung 830 128gb(waiting for 840) who knows when it will be on sale?
wd caviar black 1tb
silverstone temjin tj11
hyper 212 evo
either evga gtx 670 ftw, evga gtx 680 w/ back plate 4gb or msi gtx 680 lightning
16gb (4x4gb) vengance 1600
cheapest dvd writer/player

original price between $2,682 and $2,872 depending on gpu
sale price: to be determined


looking good
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