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Suffering from Low Fps in games

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August 17, 2012 8:16:49 AM

Why am i suffering from low fps even in games like Prince of Persia 2008, Dota 2, Kingdoms of Amalur?


My system Specs:

Intel Core i3 530 @2.93 GHz
4 GB Ram
Zotac GeForce GTX 560 1GB GDDR5
500 GB Hdd
Windows 7 ultimate 32bit.
Corsair CX600 PSU

I only bought the new card 2 weeks ago.
There are lots of games where my specs are more than enough. Like in POP, Dota 2, Kingdoms of Amalur. But i get 50 fps only when I am in cramped and small areas, As soon as i go out into open world, where you can see far and wide, the fps drops to 20-25.

Did i do something wrong with the installation of hardware?

I checked my drivers, in fact updated them yesterday only. Like I was just playing POP 2008 and it felt like playing I was playing on my friends pc who has core 2 quad, nvidia gt 8400 and 3 gb ram.
August 17, 2012 8:24:34 AM

Oh ,this is bad.Are you opening any program or other thing when playing games???THis can slow down the CPU.
How many Ampers has your PSU in 12V rail.It may not be enough
BEfore you bought the video card with what video card have you been and have you got this problem with your old video card
Have You connected all the cables of your video card??
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August 17, 2012 8:31:27 AM

iliani007 said:
How many Ampers has your PSU in 12V rail.It may not be enough
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A Corsair CX 600 PSU is definitely enough. My guess is a CPU bottleneck. Check your CPU load and your GPU load when you play those games.

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August 17, 2012 8:33:19 AM

fastreaction said:
A Corsair CX 600 PSU is definitely enough. My guess is a CPU bottleneck. Check your CPU load and your GPU load when you play those games.

- Fastreaction



you're right is very enough

but man it is a core i3 there may be and a big virus or missing motherboard drivers
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August 17, 2012 8:35:41 AM

iliani007 said:


but man it is a core i3 there may be and a big virus or missing motherboard drivers


No.

- Fastreaction
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August 17, 2012 9:03:39 AM

fastreaction said:
A Corsair CX 600 PSU is definitely enough. My guess is a CPU bottleneck. Check your CPU load and your GPU load when you play those games.

- Fastreaction


When i went in to Resource Monitor view, I played Prince of Persia and checked cpu load, the CPU 0 graph went upto 100% while CPU 1 graph went upto 65%.

Max temp while playing went upto 75 C, while card temp went upto 85 C.
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August 17, 2012 9:07:43 AM

but even if the proc might be bottlenecking my new card, POP's requirements are lesser than what i have. So why do i get 20 FPS while i am in open area. I get 50-70 at maxed in small, cramped areas but its open areas that give me 20 fps or less. Also changing game settings didnt change the fps. maybe by 2 or 3 fps, but not more.
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August 17, 2012 9:08:49 AM

Yeah and if you are in small areas is your cpu load a lot less?

- Fastreaction
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August 17, 2012 9:11:04 AM

iliani007 said:
Oh ,this is bad.Are you opening any program or other thing when playing games???THis can slow down the CPU.
How many Ampers has your PSU in 12V rail.It may not be enough
BEfore you bought the video card with what video card have you been and have you got this problem with your old video card
Have You connected all the cables of your video card??


Cx600 is more than enough.

Before the gtx560 i was using a GT240
Yes i connected the two powwer cords required for sli cards. I mean i got the new PSU for the card only.
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August 17, 2012 9:14:31 AM

fastreaction said:
Yeah and if you are in small areas is your cpu load a lot less?

- Fastreaction


hmm i dont think so. here look at the graph. Thats 5 mins of gameplay, where i jumped from closed areas to a huge open area where i could see lots of complex structures. When i turn around and face the wall, the fps would jump to 50-70 fps, and when i turn around back, it would go back to 17-20 fps

http://i45.tinypic.com/t7zi39.png
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August 17, 2012 9:14:39 AM

No like I said it is not that power supply. I still think what I thought at first sight and that is a CPU bottleneck.
What happens when you lower down some settings from high to medium etc?
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August 17, 2012 9:26:09 AM

fastreaction said:
No like I said it is not that power supply. I still think what I thought at first sight and that is a CPU bottleneck.
What happens when you lower down some settings from high to medium etc?
- Fastreaction


Well when i change to NO AA, Low Res Graphics and Low Res Textures. The FPS does go to 35 in the same open area where it gave 17. But no change in CPU usage graph, it still the same as the pic i linked. CPU 0 gets 100% usage while CPU 1 gives 65-70%
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August 17, 2012 9:31:41 AM

I think the CPU load is extremely high so I think it is the CPU that is causing problems. I just can't imagine your GPU having such low FPS unless you are setting everything on ultra.

- Fastreaction
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August 17, 2012 9:33:19 AM

Also the temp goes max to 70 C for Processor while 75 C foir the GPU
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August 17, 2012 9:40:08 AM

fastreaction said:
I think the CPU load is extremely high so I think it is the CPU that is causing problems. I just can't imagine your GPU having such low FPS unless you are setting everything on ultra.

- Fastreaction



I got 30-40 FPS in Crysis 2 at Ultra settings with DX9. Sometimes got 20-30 at huge open places. Even i cant think of any game older than 2011 capping the GTX 560. Do you think its my processor? Btw, i found out that its a previous generation i3 processor, which has even been stopped manufacturing. Also MY motherboard cant handle current/next gen core proccessors, according to intel.

Mobo is Intel DH55TCa Maybe i should get a new Mobo, Proc and also clean wipe my HDD?
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August 17, 2012 9:42:50 AM

i5 2500k :D 

- Fastreaction
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August 17, 2012 9:51:55 AM

fastreaction said:
i5 2500k :D 

- Fastreaction


I was actually lookin at i7 2600k, but i5 2500k is a good one too. But will it fix the problem? or do i go for clean wipe of HDD first and reinstalling win7?

I dont have too much cash atm man, thats hwy, otherwisee i would have bought a new proc along with the card.
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August 17, 2012 10:18:08 AM

I don't think you need to reinstall win7. When you buy a new processor you probably have to get a new motherboard as well since your motherboard probably cannot fit the new processors. I can't be 100% sure that it is going to fix your problem (I can't guarantee anything) but it is a major improvement over your i3 and since your i3 is having cpu load issues, getting a new processor (and motherboard) might be a logical move to solve your problem.

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August 17, 2012 10:46:48 AM

fastreaction said:
I don't think you need to reinstall win7. When you buy a new processor you probably have to get a new motherboard as well since your motherboard probably cannot fit the new processors. I can't be 100% sure that it is going to fix your problem (I can't guarantee anything) but it is a major improvement over your i3 and since your i3 is having cpu load issues, getting a new processor (and motherboard) might be a logical move to solve your problem.

- Fastreaction


Yeah but I am not going to overclock anything. So i think 2500 is better than the k. I can save some cash and get a better mobo.
what do you suggest, Z68 or P67 chipset. I am not going to overclock anything.

Also this is important. Will i get better FPS if i underclock my GPU atm so that the proc doesnt bottleneck it? Also will it damage my card if i run it underclocked for a long time? like atleast until i buy new proc?
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August 17, 2012 11:51:27 AM

p67 is about the same as a z68 but with less features. You are not going to overclock and I don't think a normal gamer would use all those extra features. I don't think you need to touch the gpu at all, put down some settings.

- Fastreaction
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August 17, 2012 12:26:13 PM

It kind of hurts to push down settings for a 4 year old game :|
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