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October 9, 2012 12:07:11 AM

Hello All,

I'm attempting to build my first computer; I have worked with them before and put them together with parts already available, but am having the hardest time with finding what parts to buy because there are so many out there. Here is what I have so far; what I'm looking for is to know whether or not they are all compatible (as far as my research goes they are) and also if I have too little (or too much) for what I'm trying to do.
Mainly I want to be able to use it for gaming even though I'm not much of a gamer. It's more for if I ever get back into gaming, but while I'm still not gaming I would like to have a nice computer for various things. Here is what I have tentatively so far:

Case - COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0, Black Interior and Four Fans-1x 230mm front RED LED fan, 1x 140mm rear fan, 1x 230mm top fan, and 1x 230mm side fan

Motherboard - ASUS M5A99X EVO AM3+ AMD 990X SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

Power Supply - COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS500-PCARD3-US 500W ATX12V v2.3 Power Supply

CPU - AMD A10-5800K Trinity 3.8GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket FM2 100W Quad-Core Desktop APU (CPU + GPU) with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD Radeon HD 7660D AD580KWOHJBOX

Hard Drive - Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Memory - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL

CD/DVD Burner - ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

Monitor - ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 ASCR 20000:1 (1000:1) W/Speakers

Thank in advance for any help that can be offered!

Daniel

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October 9, 2012 12:25:22 AM

Hi :) 

You missed the cost of an Operating system....

All the best Brett :) 
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October 9, 2012 12:30:04 AM

Thanks for the quick reply Brett. As for an operating system I plan on using Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit
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October 9, 2012 12:34:15 AM

CPU and MB aren't compatible. I think A10 requires socket FM2.
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October 9, 2012 12:38:45 AM

bliq said:
CPU and MB aren't compatible. I think A10 requires socket FM2.

Yep.
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October 9, 2012 12:38:45 AM

I see what you mean, guess I didn't catch that! Thanks!
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October 9, 2012 12:39:57 AM

I suppose
AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 3.6GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8150FRGUBOX
would be a better choice?
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October 9, 2012 12:53:13 AM

If you feel like dipping in a bit of extra cash on the processor, go Intel.
AMD is a sinking ship, but they seem to be holding back with their new line thats coming up.
I would go with an i5 3570k if your doing any serious gaming, but the 3570k can tackle just about anything you want it to.
BTW its an LGA 1155 socket for the 3570k, so swap motherboards for a Z77 or Z75.
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October 9, 2012 1:41:47 AM

Added video card and upgraded power supply:

Case - COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0, Black Interior and Four Fans-1x 230mm front RED LED fan, 1x 140mm rear fan, 1x 230mm top fan, and 1x 230mm side fan

Motherboard - ASUS M5A99X EVO AM3+ AMD 990X SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

Power Supply - COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS700-PCAAE3-US 700W ATX 12V v2.3 Active PFC Power Supply

CPU - AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 3.6GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8150FRGUBOX

Video Card - EVGA 01G-P3-1556-KR GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) FPB 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Hard Drive - Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Memory - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL

CD/DVD Burner - ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

Monitor - ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 ASCR 20000:1 (1000:1) W/Speakers
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October 9, 2012 1:44:34 AM

Fermi's get hot....
FAST.
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October 9, 2012 7:46:19 AM

This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by MouseMonkey
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October 9, 2012 3:20:05 PM

Even with all the fans in the box and if I possibly got a cooler would it still be a problem? If so, any good alternatives?
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October 9, 2012 3:36:31 PM

I would still go with the a10-5800k over the 8150. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o... That shows where the cpus set minus the a10-5800k which in almost all benchmarks shows it keeping up or beating an i3 3220 so it would be sitting around there on the amd side of the hierarchy of cpus.

With the 5800k though the higher the clock memory the better it performs. You will not get a better cpu then the i3 3220 unless you buy a i3 3220 cpu a 1155 mobo and a discrete gpu and even then the 5800k is right with it or better in non single threaded apps. So to really beat it fully with intel side you would need a quad core setup. So unless you want to go with an i5 quad core you will not find a better value at the low end then the 5800k.
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October 9, 2012 7:18:45 PM

zolton33 said:
I would still go with the a10-5800k over the 8150. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o... That shows where the cpus set minus the a10-5800k which in almost all benchmarks shows it keeping up or beating an i3 3220 so it would be sitting around there on the amd side of the hierarchy of cpus.

With the 5800k though the higher the clock memory the better it performs. You will not get a better cpu then the i3 3220 unless you buy a i3 3220 cpu a 1155 mobo and a discrete gpu and even then the 5800k is right with it or better in non single threaded apps. So to really beat it fully with intel side you would need a quad core setup. So unless you want to go with an i5 quad core you will not find a better value at the low end then the 5800k.



So, switching over to that build and a mobo that meets the socket requirements I have come up wth this:

Case - COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0, Black Interior and Four Fans-1x 230mm front RED LED fan, 1x 140mm rear fan, 1x 230mm top fan, and 1x 230mm side fan

Motherboard - ASUS F2A85-V PRO FM2 AMD A85X (Hudson D4) SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

Power Supply - COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS700-PCAAE3-US 700W ATX 12V v2.3 Active PFC Power Supply

CPU - AMD A10-5800K Trinity 3.8GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket FM2 100W Quad-Core Desktop APU (CPU + GPU) with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD Radeon HD 7660D AD580KWOHJBOX

Video Card - EVGA 01G-P3-1556-KR GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) FPB 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Hard Drive - Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Memory - CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML16GX3M4A1600C9

CD/DVD Burner - ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

Monitor - ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 ASCR 20000:1 (1000:1) W/Speakers


All compatible and worthwhile?
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October 9, 2012 7:41:27 PM

I would drop the gtx 550 if i were you. The discrete gpu is not needed the 5800k comes with HD 7660 built into the cpu for graphics. But if that is what you want its up to you ultimately. You could save about $50 bucks and go with the 922 cooler master case as well. And with the money saved from those 2 put in a decent ssd.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jPAR That is what i would build and add in windows 7 for about $100 more and maybe a regular hdd for storage
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October 9, 2012 7:51:15 PM

zolton, thanks for the info!
How is this for the motherboard?
GIGABYTE GA-F2A85X-UP4 FM2 AMD A85X (Hudson D4) SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
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October 9, 2012 8:05:39 PM

Not bad if you can swing it into your build i would definitely do it. But keep in mind the higher the clock ram you use the better the 5800k performs. The gigabyte board gives you more max memory (64gb) but only allows you to use memory up to 1866 while the ASRock i suggested is cheaper and allows you to use memory up to 2600 but only has a max memory of 32gb. But really up to you both are from good companies many here trust. So it wold come down to your preference.
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October 9, 2012 11:42:25 PM

Zolton, first off thanks for linking me that build, that website is great and I had no idea about it.
I have two builds on there now, one that is a slight modification of the one you sent me, http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jRwP , and one that is a modification off of my first build, http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jRvx .
Obviously there is a huge price difference, but as for performance what would the major difference be? I guess in a way I'm also asking if the a10-5800k with the integrated graphics will work better than the fx-8150 with a seperate video card?
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October 10, 2012 12:34:17 AM

You do realize that if you put a newer gou with the 5800k it would still be better then the 8150 right? plus look at the costs to even get the 8150 to compete. A mobo the cpu and a gpu. Where as with the 5800k you only need it and the mobo. And if you put a discrete gpu with the 5800k you could crossfire it or even without it would dance circles around the 8150.
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October 10, 2012 12:43:24 AM

I did not realize that, which I why I am asking. That's some excellent information though! I didn't know about crossfiring even though I have heard of it before, so I will have to look into that. Thanks!
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October 10, 2012 2:33:39 AM

Just to be on the safe side because it is within my price range I was looking at video cards. Hard to figure out what would be the best video card to use that would work well with the apu
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October 10, 2012 7:32:17 PM

Best answer selected by elessarseregon.
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