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October 10, 2012 3:34:17 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: End of October - Middle of November

Budget Range: ~$1200 before shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, daily activities

Are you buying a monitor: Yes

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Location: Platteville, WI

Parts Preferences: no preferance

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: plan on two monitors, main will be 1920x1080, other will be smaller, but unknown
at this time

Additional Comments: Small form factor is what I am looking for because I will be moving multiple times throughout the next year and I am not sure how much space my future living quarters will have.
Also I would like to have speakers in the monitor because I personally will use a headset when gaming, but my wife would like to not have to use a headset and because of possible space concerns I don't want to have to have speakers sitting on desk.


Parts I am contemplating thus far:

Case with PSU: SilverStone Sugo Series SG05BB-450 ~ $130
Motherboard: ASRock H77M-ITX LGA 1155 Intel H77 ~ $100
GPU: ZOTAC AMP! ZT-60804-10P GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB ~ $300
CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 Ivy Bridge 3.1GHz ~ $195
SSD: SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128B/WW 2.5" 128GB ~ $90
RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 16GB ~ $90
DVD Drive: LITE-ON 8X Slim Internal DVD Burner ~ $30
Cable for DVD: = SYBA Model CL-CAB40042 37" SATA to Mini SATA ~ $7
Monitor: ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P ~ $180

Total Price: ~$1150
Plan would be to get a little better CPU with extra money, a good low height CPU cooler, or the second lower res monitor.

Let me know what you think.
The main question is are there any items that I am missing, or should think about replacing with a better item?
Also I was really excited to find a GTX 660 ti that would fit into the SG05 without worries, but then I looked at the PSU requirements for the GPU. Would the 450w PSU with this case be sufficient to run the GPU?

Thank-you everyone for looking at this and providing your feedback!

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October 10, 2012 4:38:19 PM

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heres what i would do, should outperform what youve got there significantly (much nicer GPU) and cost less.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jVuX

I would read up on the case you chose and the PSU it comes with. Personally i try to stay away from bundled cases/psu's at all costs but if it comes from a good manufacturer and their havent been any problems then go for it i suppose. It does look a little tight for high end gaming cards however, and the case i picked can fit any card no problem. No need for CPU cooler if you are not overclocking stock intel is fine.


$47 case and a cheap PSU on a $1200 build? Absolutely not. On that kind of budget I'd definitely overclock or at least have the option for it.

Try something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($30.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1200.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

$1200 right on the dot - better case, better PSU, better motherboard, better GPU, you name it.
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October 10, 2012 4:54:35 PM

Let me suggest:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jVDd
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jVDd/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jVDd/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77E-ITX Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.88 @ B&H)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($312.86 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($47.96 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($59.44 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS224-06 DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus VH242H 23.6" Monitor ($164.00 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1099.10
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Cheaper case, better cpu, better gpu, better psu.
I don't know why you need 16GB of RAM, but be my guest.
You need to add $7 for DVD cable and some $$ for cpu cooler.
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October 10, 2012 5:02:59 PM

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^did you even read the op? lol
or even look through my build? or did you just see a cheap case and see an opportunity to Copy Paste your generic 1200 build that you post in every other thread?


OK fine. Fair enough.

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Case: Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($47.96 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($59.44 @ NCIX US)


I'm not too sure a full ATX PSU will fit in an mITX case. You might want to check that there.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($30.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($109.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE247H 23.6" Monitor ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1280.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

I went a bit over budget but I included a quality mATX case and PSU. I could also substitute for a modular one as well.
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October 10, 2012 5:20:44 PM

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^ decent build but costs 50 dollars more than mine and comes with a worse GPU, although he included 16gb of ram like you have i merely had 8 because you wont need anything more for gaming. Also op said he wasnt going to overclock so no point in getting a -K processor.


I saw your build after I configured mine. I admit your choice is very good. I agree on your CPU, no need for 3570k and that 7970 is nice.
As I said, in my opinion 16GB is not necessary, but I chose it following the OP.
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October 10, 2012 5:21:45 PM

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heres what i would do, should outperform what youve got there significantly (much nicer GPU) and cost less.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jVuX

I would read up on the case you chose and the PSU it comes with. Personally i try to stay away from bundled cases/psu's at all costs but if it comes from a good manufacturer and their havent been any problems then go for it i suppose. It does look a little tight for high end gaming cards however, and the case i picked can fit any card no problem. No need for CPU cooler if you are not overclocking stock intel is fine.


I have done some reading, and the PSU supposedly is a good one, but I do appreciate the thought. I was more concerned whether or not a 450w psu can run the GTX 660ti. I do like this build though and I will continue to look into it.
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October 10, 2012 5:37:48 PM

Bejusek said:
I saw your build after I configured mine. I admit your choice is very good. I agree on your CPU, no need for 3570k and that 7970 is nice.
As I said, in my opinion 16GB is not necessary, but I chose it following the OP.


Yes, the reason I decided to go with 16GB is that it is relatively cheap and I am always tinkering with new software. It was more or less to give me room to play if i were to find something to use it, but it is not absolutely necessary.
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October 10, 2012 5:42:35 PM

The PC parts picker seems to be a nice tool, but I noticed some of the parts coming from microcenter and various outher retailers. I truly would like to stick to newegg.com because I can order my parts all at one site and I have never had any problems with them before.

I understand that often times better deals are found at microcenter and other online retailers, but i never really feel comfortable using Amazon. I usually stick to newegg or tigerdirect, so if parts can be listed from either of those that would be truly appreciated.

Thanks
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October 10, 2012 5:46:18 PM

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should be fine so long as they dont lie about thier wattage and amperage ratings. However again i would try to find a seperate case/psu. I know its tempting to get them out of the way in one stroke, but if you should be able to find something that suits your tastes, performs much better, is much more reliable and costs less by buying them separately.


Its not that I feel the need to get it all in one, I just have heard decent things about the psu as well as the case and because the case is so small it doesn't leave room to replace the PSU with a mATX PSU.

To be entirely honest, I was seeing how small i could go with the case and still have a good gaming machine.
This is for the reason stated though. My wife doesn't like having a larger tower or computer in general apart from the monitor. If it were up to her she would just buy an all-in-one! Not good for gaming, but they do have there niche. :/ 
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October 10, 2012 5:49:30 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G41 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($59.44 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1150.35
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

hope this fits your taste.

has a somewhat cheap case but it doesnt really seam like you are going to upgrade parts at all so it should be good enough.

comes with a fit lower end i5 you can upgrade if you want to but it shouldn't make to much of a difference.

comes with a 128GB SSD to make things much faster and smoother, can upgrade to a vertex 4 but i think a samsung 830 is a very sweet deal compared to the vertex right now
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October 10, 2012 6:02:43 PM

if newegg strictly then i would do this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
i5+optical drive

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($432.86 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($158.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $975.77
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

so that is 975.77+208.98=1184.75
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October 10, 2012 6:15:30 PM

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Since you were hating on my piece its only fair i break yours down a little bit ;P
1. Op doesnt want to overclock, no need for -k varient processor
2. Op doesnt want to overclock, stock intel cooler is fine
3. Op doesnt want to overclock, motherboard is overkill
4. 7970 > 7950
5. PSU is overkill and non modular ( he is never going to crossfire or overclock so anything over 500 is too much, and you definately want something modular when you have a small case)
6. the case i picked might be cheap, however it fits regular ATX psu's AND full length GPUs on with miniITX boards, not too shabby.
7. Your build costs 100+ more than mine ;D


While I do not mind being proven wrong, I very clearly stated that I went over budget - and for most people that's not necessarily a bad thing. $1200 is tricky to do without cutting corners somewhere. I've never built an mITX system but I have built mATX and plenty of full ATX systems.

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^Nice Small form factor eh? Lol, crummy mobo aswell


OK stop acting arrogant. There's nothing wrong with Asrock (MSI questionable but nothing wrong really) and if you actually read reviews they win quite a few awards and have beaten out boards by Asus and Gigabyte. It's not your system. If OP doesn't like our advice they can look elsewhere.
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October 10, 2012 6:53:47 PM

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8762/cst-886/Lian_Li_...
Lian Li Mini Series PC-V351B / Black / Mini Tower Case - There are customisation options to explore for this case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Intel Core i5-3450 Ivy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.5GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GIGABYTE GA-Z77N-WIFI LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Mini ITX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-128G 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ZOTAC AMP! ZT-60804-10P GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Seagate Barracuda Green ST1500DL003 1.5TB 5900 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 V2 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

Weighs in just over $1k how much over depends how much modding you want done to the case. Also I would look in to cooling whoever said earlier you don't need aftermarket cooling I guess has never dealt with a hot CPU (ivy), a warm GPU and a very small case. You can also add a full size optical drive to that case instead of those horrible slimline things

The PSU is a bit overkill a I used the wrong link! There s a 500W one same price (same make and model)
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October 10, 2012 6:54:57 PM

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hey man i meant to offense toughen that skin up, i am certainly open to criticism when ive made a mistake(s) thats how we learn :D  . However I am less amiable when i havent ;) . Anyway if you have a problem with the way I conduct myself send me a PM, lets keep this thread focused on the OP and how we can help him :) 

That being said; Asrocks are money both my computers use them and you will see a very high proportion of my builds that i post here use them aswell. I was refering to the cheap MSI that Mr. ATX was using.


OK fair enough.
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October 10, 2012 8:04:27 PM

Wow all of these are great ideas, I am going to have to take some time later in the week to look at this all, so feel free to keep them coming!
I find it very difficult to give a best answer for most of these types of threads as I probably will pick and choose parts from each build, so I will determine who had the best answer when I have had more time to look over everything.

I truly did not think I would have such good choices for GPU's that would fit into a SFF case.
Looks like I will have to do more research. Again I will mark a best answer later in the week so that I allow more people to reply and so I don't swindle anyone by not really looking into their builds.

Thanks Everyone!!!
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October 12, 2012 4:34:25 PM

Best answer selected by Xailos.
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October 12, 2012 4:35:44 PM

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heres what i would do, should outperform what youve got there significantly (much nicer GPU) and cost less.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jVuX

I would read up on the case you chose and the PSU it comes with. Personally i try to stay away from bundled cases/psu's at all costs but if it comes from a good manufacturer and their havent been any problems then go for it i suppose. It does look a little tight for high end gaming cards however, and the case i picked can fit any card no problem. No need for CPU cooler if you are not overclocking stock intel is fine.


Selected as best answer basically because it gave me a different option for a small case that could fit a full sized psu and dvd drive (those slim line things are a pain).
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