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October 10, 2012 7:53:22 PM

I am for looking for help on my new build. I will list what i have bought so far:

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit


CPU
1 x Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115211

CPU Cooler
1 x ZALMAN CNPS9900ALED 120mm 2 Ball Low-noise Blue LED CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118046

CD-Rom
1 x SAMSUNG 22X Half-Height DVD Writer Black SATA Model SH-S223L LightScribe Support - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151188

Memory
1 x Mushkin Enhanced Redline 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 998691
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226050

Graphic Card
1 x BFG Tech BFGEGTX2851024OCFUBE GeForce GTX 285 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143201

Power Supply
1 x BFG Tech EX-1200 BFGR1200WEXPSU 1200W Continuous Rated at 40°C ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817702015



Please note the following came off of my last computer and I am willing to upgrade if needed:
Power Supply
Memory
Graphic Card
CD-Rom

I want to get an SSD drive and am currently looking at the samsung SSD drives (256GB)
I also don't know which Motherboard to go with.

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October 10, 2012 8:09:24 PM

You should return all that those are ancient.
October 10, 2012 8:30:17 PM

yep, that build is very old, like 2 years old
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October 10, 2012 8:31:49 PM

computernoob29 said:
yep, that build is very old, like 2 years old


Actually i7-950 is more like 2009 so 3 years old. Plus there's no reason to buy Win 7 Ultimate unless you need the language packs.
October 10, 2012 9:36:21 PM

so what do you guys recommend from start to finish?
October 10, 2012 10:34:28 PM

Here some more info on my budgets and etc.

Approximate Purchase Date: Within the next 4 weeks.

Budget Range: $1,000...If i can use any existing hardware that would be great!

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Only for Gaming


Parts Preferences: Doesn't Matter

Overclocking: No
October 11, 2012 12:04:03 AM

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Budget Range: $1,000...If i can use any existing hardware that would be great!


What do you have already and what parts are you looking to upgrade? Let's start there.
October 11, 2012 12:10:01 AM

Alright here is what I got set up for you.

dvd drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill THOR V2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seagate Barracuda
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER GX Series 650w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock Z77 Extreme4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-3570K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I've heard good things about this case but never really recommended it to anyone so it is your call on it. The hard drive may have mid rated reviews because of doa but I've used 5 of them and none of them have been doa, whatever though if you want to give or take $10 you can get a 1tb or 2tb hdd with better reviews. Radeon HD 7870 is best in its class and fits in great for gaming. I threw in the processor because I figured some games may stress it but you also might want to take up a little video editing and such. Whatever you decide with that though, I can take it down a nitch and get a better gpu. By all means though it is a great cpu. You shouldn't need more than a 650w but if you ever plan on upgrading then go with some sort of a 750w. If your going to spend a little extra on that though then get a modular one. You shouldn't need more than 8gb ram so lets just leave it at that. Hyper 212 is there just because it is practically a necessity based on the heatsink the cpu comes with. Hope I helped and if you have any questions or need changes just ask.
October 11, 2012 12:14:35 AM

Dingleberg said:


I've heard good things about this case but never really recommended it to anyone so it is your call on it. The hard drive may have mid rated reviews because of doa but I've used 5 of them and none of them have been doa, whatever though if you want to give or take $10 you can get a 1tb or 2tb hdd with better reviews. Radeon HD 7870 is best in its class and fits in great for gaming. I threw in the processor because I figured some games may stress it but you also might want to take up a little video editing and such. Whatever you decide with that though, I can take it down a nitch and get a better gpu. By all means though it is a great cpu. You shouldn't need more than a 650w but if you ever plan on upgrading then go with some sort of a 750w. If your going to spend a little extra on that though then get a modular one. You shouldn't need more than 8gb ram so lets just leave it at that. Hyper 212 is there just because it is practically a necessity based on the heatsink the cpu comes with. Hope I helped and if you have any questions or need changes just ask.


The Thor is ridiculously huge and you don't need it unless you are working with a custom liquid cooling setup or a monster motherboard. And even then there's better choices. You can get by with far less case for that build and spend it on the GPU - that is where it counts. Don't take Newegg reviews seriously either - they're a good resource but they're not written by people who really know their stuff. It's like a car review from Consumer Reports vs. a review from Motor Trend - doesn't go into a lot of detail.

Also if you read professional power supply review websites like Jonnyguru or Hardware Secrets - Cooler Master PSUs have a horrendous reputation as the company slaps fake labels and phony certifications on them. A quick Google search will tell you what I am talking about.
October 11, 2012 12:19:47 AM

g-unit1111 said:
The Thor is ridiculously huge and you don't need it unless you are working with a custom liquid cooling setup or a monster motherboard. And even then there's better choices. You can get by with far less case for that build and spend it on the GPU - that is where it counts. Don't take Newegg reviews seriously either - they're a good resource but they're not written by people who really know their stuff. It's like a car review from Consumer Reports vs. a review from Motor Trend - doesn't go into a lot of detail.

Yeah I know about the newegg thing I just didn't know if he did or not so I didn't want to scare him away from it. Also about the case, you're 100% right. I don't normally do cases because I do this mainly locally and most people I've dealt with had their case picked out already cuz, ya know, its what everyone will be looking at so they chose what they wanted. I don't have much experience with choosing cases but you are very right.
October 11, 2012 1:24:08 AM

Dingleberg said:
Yeah I know about the newegg thing I just didn't know if he did or not so I didn't want to scare him away from it. Also about the case, you're 100% right. I don't normally do cases because I do this mainly locally and most people I've dealt with had their case picked out already cuz, ya know, its what everyone will be looking at so they chose what they wanted. I don't have much experience with choosing cases but you are very right.


Case choice is a lot of personal preference and there's a lot of good ones out there, there's way more than enough bad ones and then there's ones that are overkill. For your setup if you wanted to stick with a white case - for an Asrock Z77 and a Hyper 212 - maybe the Corsair 500R or NZXT Phantom 410.
October 11, 2012 3:44:55 AM

Dingleberg said:
Alright here is what I got set up for you.

dvd drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill THOR V2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seagate Barracuda
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER GX Series 650w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock Z77 Extreme4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-3570K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I've heard good things about this case but never really recommended it to anyone so it is your call on it. The hard drive may have mid rated reviews because of doa but I've used 5 of them and none of them have been doa, whatever though if you want to give or take $10 you can get a 1tb or 2tb hdd with better reviews. Radeon HD 7870 is best in its class and fits in great for gaming. I threw in the processor because I figured some games may stress it but you also might want to take up a little video editing and such. Whatever you decide with that though, I can take it down a nitch and get a better gpu. By all means though it is a great cpu. You shouldn't need more than a 650w but if you ever plan on upgrading then go with some sort of a 750w. If your going to spend a little extra on that though then get a modular one. You shouldn't need more than 8gb ram so lets just leave it at that. Hyper 212 is there just because it is practically a necessity based on the heatsink the cpu comes with. Hope I helped and if you have any questions or need changes just ask.



Can I use anything that i posted above that i currently have? Some of it is from my last system I built. Also I do want to go with a SSD drive even if i goes over my budget somewhat. Any ideas?
October 11, 2012 8:12:41 AM

You could use the CPU cooler, optical drive and PSU. If I were you I'd probably try and sell everything but the optical, though.
October 11, 2012 1:23:32 PM

FinneousPJ said:
You could use the CPU cooler, optical drive and PSU. If I were you I'd probably try and sell everything but the optical, though.


okay so i will just start with a new build.

Is this a good SSD drive to get? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147135

Also should i go with an i7 or will the i5 give me more than enough CPU for high graphic games?
October 11, 2012 3:53:26 PM

Is that the best graphics card i can buy or should i go up to something a bit higher?
October 11, 2012 4:15:25 PM

falcon7xx said:
okay so i will just start with a new build.

Is this a good SSD drive to get? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147135

Also should i go with an i7 or will the i5 give me more than enough CPU for high graphic games?


Samsung 830 is an excellent choice. Alternately consider the OCZ Vertex 4 and Corsair Neutron.

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Does anyone have any experience or have heard anything on this case?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811146091


That's the same one I recommended earlier - excellent choice.

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Is that the best graphics card i can buy or should i go up to something a bit higher?


The 7870 is a good choice but the 7950 would be ideal. I'd personally skip the SSD on your budget and put more into the GPU. Getting the best GPU you can get on any budget is key to my builds.

Here's what I would get on a <=$1K budget:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($142.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1019.75
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
October 11, 2012 5:03:23 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Samsung 830 is an excellent choice. Alternately consider the OCZ Vertex 4 and Corsair Neutron.

Quote:
Does anyone have any experience or have heard anything on this case?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811146091


That's the same one I recommended earlier - excellent choice.

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Is that the best graphics card i can buy or should i go up to something a bit higher?


The 7870 is a good choice but the 7950 would be ideal. I'd personally skip the SSD on your budget and put more into the GPU. Getting the best GPU you can get on any budget is key to my builds.

Here's what I would get on a <=$1K budget:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($142.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1019.75
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)



I just sold my old computer for $500 on Ebay, my budget just changed from 1k to $1,500. With the extra $500 would you add anything to this? Thanks for all the help
October 11, 2012 5:05:57 PM

You could opt for a SSD and 7950 crossfire if interested.
October 11, 2012 5:10:52 PM

FinneousPJ said:
You could opt for a SSD and 7950 crossfire if interested.


The 7950 crossfire is what g-unit recommened above correct?
October 11, 2012 5:27:09 PM

No, he recommended one 7950.
October 11, 2012 5:31:10 PM

FinneousPJ said:
No, he recommended one 7950.


Sorry this is my first build. So i would get 2 GPU and is that motherboard Crossfire ready?
October 11, 2012 5:45:43 PM

Yes, and yes. It's overkill for a single 1080p screen though I just figured I'd suggest it if you want to spend the extra $500.
October 11, 2012 6:26:49 PM

Will the Crossfire allow you to play games with higher settings on the graphics?
October 11, 2012 6:38:24 PM

falcon7xx said:
I just sold my old computer for $500 on Ebay, my budget just changed from 1k to $1,500. With the extra $500 would you add anything to this? Thanks for all the help


Change the video card to a 7970 GHz Edition and add a good SSD like a Vertex 4 or Samsung 830.
October 11, 2012 8:14:28 PM

Yeah that's a good card. Of course you could get a bigger SSD and not crossfire at all, but then I don't really see the point of a crossfire-ready mobo. But as I said, if you're only on a single screen, crossfire is kind of superfluous.
October 11, 2012 9:15:50 PM

FinneousPJ said:
Yeah that's a good card. Of course you could get a bigger SSD and not crossfire at all, but then I don't really see the point of a crossfire-ready mobo. But as I said, if you're only on a single screen, crossfire is kind of superfluous.


Will the 2 GPU's give me better graphics on a single screen while playing a game or will 1 high end GPU be better?
October 11, 2012 9:40:02 PM

falcon7xx said:
Will the 2 GPU's give me better graphics on a single screen while playing a game or will 1 high end GPU be better?

Getting 2 gpu's will greatly increase the graphics capability. It will be almost twice as good but not quite twice as good. I would highly recommend the crossfire, although with it you may want to look at at least an 850w psu seeing as crossfire max load is about 650 for the gpu's alone. Also looking at the temps for it you may want to look into getting a couple of good fans too and possibly getting the 7970s from one of the companies with great cooling. Load temps reach between 82 and 88 Celsius which is not good.
October 11, 2012 9:49:54 PM

falcon7xx said:
Will the 2 GPU's give me better graphics on a single screen while playing a game or will 1 high end GPU be better?

Yes two 7950 would be a lot more powerful than one 7970.
October 11, 2012 10:41:39 PM

Dingleberg said:
Getting 2 gpu's will greatly increase the graphics capability. It will be almost twice as good but not quite twice as good. I would highly recommend the crossfire, although with it you may want to look at at least an 850w psu seeing as crossfire max load is about 650 for the gpu's alone. Also looking at the temps for it you may want to look into getting a couple of good fans too and possibly getting the 7970s from one of the companies with great cooling. Load temps reach between 82 and 88 Celsius which is not good.


Does Sapphire make good cooling units on their GPU and if not who should I look for? When you says couple of fans, you mean adding more fans to my case to keep the computer cool correcT? Sorry I a newb at this.
October 11, 2012 11:16:36 PM

FinneousPJ said:
Yes two 7950 would be a lot more powerful than one 7970.


I personally think better would be to get one 7970 and then Crossfire it later on.

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Does Sapphire make good cooling units on their GPU and if not who should I look for? When you says couple of fans, you mean adding more fans to my case to keep the computer cool correcT? Sorry I a newb at this.


The Sapphire Vapor X has a great cooling unit and is tailor made for overclocking. Comes with some nice utilities too.
October 11, 2012 11:37:00 PM

Crossfire it later on is hardly ever preferable. I fyou want the performance, crossfire today. If you don't stick with single GPU config and update whenever necessary.
October 11, 2012 11:39:03 PM

FinneousPJ said:
Crossfire it later on is hardly ever preferable. I fyou want the performance, crossfire today. If you don't stick with single GPU config and update whenever necessary.


I've been toying with the idea of Crossfiring my 7870 since I can get one for $235 or picking up a GTX 660TI so I can switch between the two.
October 12, 2012 12:21:55 AM

Well in your case it's still relatively sensible, but same time next year I'd say not worth it, just buy a newer gen part.

The 660 Ti idea is weird, why are you considering that?

Sry for offtopic too :D 
October 12, 2012 1:48:26 AM

Here is what i have. Let me know if I should make any changes.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($215.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($201.94 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($313.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($313.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($107.59 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 850W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($135.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1540.41
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

I also was thinking about adding 3 more fans to the case to help with cooling:

Here is a link to the fans:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835146017

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October 12, 2012 8:24:19 AM
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That is an amazing build. Wouldn't change a thing.
October 19, 2012 12:17:21 AM

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